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Also on SOS he targeted Henry last year and everyone lost their $hit on the forum
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AFLW 2024 - Round 2 - Chat, game threads, injury lists, team lineups and more.
Much as I would hate to see Battle go, if we get band 1 compo and can turn that into a half decent young midfield kid it is probably OK for us. Our backline is strong and I think Caminiti can back fill Battles role to some extent.
Midfield was, is and will continue to be our issue. It has to be our prime focus over the next couple of years.
There'll be a lot of pressure on Battle if he moves. The Saints fans love him, but he will have to prove himself to Hawks supporters especially if he goes on massive coin.
I can see what the Hawks are building but there's a touch of vanilla to their midfield mix. They are no guarantee to shoot up the ladder. Imagine moving there and having to play alongside Frost in the backline?
I really hope we can sell the Saints to him and he stays. Hawks just seems a weird move to me.
If we don't overachieve at the draft we are going to be in for a really long rebuild.
Also on SOS he targeted Henry last year and everyone lost their $hit on the forum
I’ll give you a comparison to show you that the club isn’t lowballing Battle.
Gresham got an offer late in the season to stay - which was below the amount he is getting at Essendon. Under the guise he was an RFA and the market would seem his worth. Yet when the time came it was all
About maximising compo
Battle got an offer very early in 2024 to the point it was supposedly done in round 2. We have kept negotiating. We have the coach saying we want him to stay. We don’t have the protection of him being a RFA. So we can’t play games and screw around here. We have to put our best forward or risk losing him for god knows what.
So yes I do think Battle is off. I mentioned it last week on here to Saint Watto. What more would he supposedly have to prove to the club? The answer is nothing.
What more is the club meant to do? There isn’t an instance of reported offers blowing ours out of the water. It’s the same between both clubs.
So what more is the club supposed to do right now?
How do we really know if 900k X 6 will give us band one compensation? Is the equation in the public domain?
Most think they are no chance for Smith and Perryman.If they pull it off and jump us I'll ****ing spew.
I don't think Battle staying or going will have much of an impact on whether we challenge sooner or later. Whilst the draft always looks like the long way home, it is your best chance to get a core young group to mature together. We have some pretty good youngsters - Phillipou, NAS, Wilson, Owens, Henry, Ari, Windhager, King. I'd be looking to add to that rather than trying to rush before the careers of Steele, Wood, and Hill peter out. Players like Sinclair, Howard, Marshall, Wilkie should have 5 years in them.
There is no right way. I'll be happy if Battle stays, I'll feel OK if he goes and we get a good draft pick in return.
If what you say is true then the club really is in trouble with what seems a questionable environment. If thats the case surely we should be concentrating more on WHY these players want to leave? Everyone has been singing Lyon's praises since he arrived, but it now seems mature players are wanting out. Gresham probably had his ego bruised, because he had been over rated by previous coaching groups. I didnt see him as a loss but Josh will be, surely the board have to ask the questions why?
It was interesting listening to Cooper Sharman's radio interview today. He laughed it off, but he said the Lyon often starts statements and gets lost in thoughts and goes off in a completely different tangent and they have no idea what he is trying to say. Ive noticed this with a lot of Lyons pressers, he gets so wound up in what he is saying he doesnt answer the question and then dribbles off into a completely different direction. The younger or new players would be too niave and junior to question his messages, but perhaps the more mature players are seeing through this. He would make a good politician, but Im wondering if this addled messaging is turning players off?
Bergman is 23 in October and has all the attributes to go bonkers. Wouldn’t be writing him off yet at all.TDK sure has turned the corner , you're right he will be a star , the other one is just a GOP IMO
Club wants another key back irrespective of who is down there right now. So wrong again.Battle and Caminiti are nothing alike. Hammer would take Dougal's spot as a KP defender. Battle is more Tom Stewart or Jake Lever. Ari would have to take his place.
It might work out long term but the best player around that pick is probably Trainor who is pretty much an 18 year old Battle. That's if we don't rise up the ladder and miss out on the already thin cream.
By the time the 18 year old mids can take control of the midfield Sinclair, Wilkie, Marshall, Steele, Wood, Howard, Hill and those guys will be ready to retire.
I'd say that in the mid career age bracket we have three best 22 players left and a few speculative ones. Battle, Snags and King best 22. Dow, Sharman, Clark, Paton, Byrnes, Bonner etc.
We probably lose a lot of depth this year. It sounds like Membrey, Paton, Ross types are probably on the way out and we get younger again. If we don't overachieve at the draft we are going to be in for a really long rebuild.
Most think they are no chance for Smith and Perryman.
You are on a piss take with Gringo aren’t you?If what you say is true then the club really is in trouble with what seems a questionable environment. If thats the case surely we should be concentrating more on WHY these players want to leave? Everyone has been singing Lyon's praises since he arrived, but it now seems mature players are wanting out. Gresham probably had his ego bruised, because he had been over rated by previous coaching groups. I didnt see him as a loss but Josh will be, surely the board have to ask the questions why?
It was interesting listening to Cooper Sharman's radio interview today. He laughed it off, but he said the Lyon often starts statements and gets lost in thoughts and goes off in a completely different tangent and they have no idea what he is trying to say. Ive noticed this with a lot of Lyons pressers, he gets so wound up in what he is saying he doesnt answer the question and then dribbles off into a completely different direction. The younger or new players would be too niave and junior to question his messages, but perhaps the more mature players are seeing through this. He would make a good politician, but Im wondering if this addled messaging is turning players off?
I just think it's a bit meh. They have lots of depth in there though. But the fact they're targeting Bailey Smith suggests it needs improving.Are you serious about their midfield? It already stacks up against a lot of the best midfields in the league.
Newcombe, Day, Connor Nash who looks big enough to ruck, Worpol, D'Ambrosio looks good this year, Ward developing, Cam McKenzie who looks great in patches, Maguinness as a tagger, Harry Morrison and Amon outside and Hustwaite who was a highly regarded tall mid option taken in 2023. Also have Cooper Stevens there and talk that Jaith would turn into an outside mid this year.
If Hawks need anything it's not more mids.
Siciliy, Weddle, McCabe, Blanc, Grainger-Barass, they are even trying Serong as a KPB. I reckon they'll use him as forward to replace Gunston.
To me the Hawks list looks better on paper than on field. They recruit very well.
No.If Monty and Doogs get re-signed can we make a pact on here that we’ll never ever rag out on them again.
Having said that.....let's hope the Saints get up in what is reportably a photo finish.
Bergman is 23 in October and has all the attributes to go bonkers. Wouldn’t be writing him off yet at all.
Club wants another key back irrespective of who is down there right now. So wrong again.
That came from Mission in a pre match function.
Also your ability to ID talent isn’t great. Didn’t you tell me along with 1 or 2 of your other mates that this bloke was only another GOP and the pies game was the exception and another SOS failure?
I just think it's a bit meh. They have lots of depth in there though. But the fact they're targeting Bailey Smith suggests it needs improving.
Yeah definitely would love to look at Ward.He's just a different type to a lot they have. They have a lot of inside ball winners but a bit of class outside would finish it off.
We should be looking at guys like Ward and Hustwaite. They'll struggle to get games.
Bergman is 23 in October and has all the attributes to go bonkers. Wouldn’t be writing him off yet at all.
Club wants another key back irrespective of who is down there right now. So wrong again.
That came from Mission in a pre match function.
Also your ability to ID talent isn’t great. Didn’t you tell me along with 1 or 2 of your other mates that this bloke was only another GOP and the pies game was the exception and another SOS failure?
Last bit was for Gringo. Hence why I quoted him.Think you sent the last bit to the wrong person and Ps , I still don't think Bergman will be a start![]()
I'm always happyLast bit was for Gringo. Hence why I quoted him.
Bergman doesn’t need to be a star to be a worthy get. There is only so many stars in this league. If that’s what you judge a player acquisition on then you will never be happy.
He will also go from taking the 3rd forward to needing to take the 1st or 2nd. Lot more pressure and responsibility with that.There'll be a lot of pressure on Battle if he moves. The Saints fans love him, but he will have to prove himself to Hawks supporters especially if he goes on massive coin.
I can see what the Hawks are building but there's a touch of vanilla to their midfield mix. They are no guarantee to shoot up the ladder. Imagine moving there and having to play alongside Frost in the backline?
I really hope we can sell the Saints to him and he stays. Hawks just seems a weird move to me.