I recall afl.com mentioning that we would not take any delisted free agents and would only use rookie/ssp picks after the ND. Things can change but i believe that is the plan for now
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Before or after yesterday's delistings?
May well be the case that we don't, but 3 delistings (rather than 2) opens up the possibility for a DFA. Guess we'll know soon enough. DFA period starts in a week.
It was before. I think the plan is to save as much salary as possible but as you say we will find out soon enough
Stupid question coming up (I'm not across all the draft's finer points)
If pick 72 hasn't been used in a points bundle for Ben, wouldn't it be better to use it on Lucas rather than risk losing him in the RD?
If pick 72 hasn't been used in a points bundle for Ben, wouldn't it be better to use it on Lucas rather than risk losing him in the RD?
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You can basically pre-list a FS once they slide through to the rookie draft these days.
Noah Cumberland - thoughts (inconsistent and brain fades but has some talent as a forward).
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I consider him a worthwhile talent but many posters on here think he's absolutely rubbish so a hard one to judge.
I'd be happy to see him scheduled as a pre season SSP for us to see how he'd go next to H and Charles
Problem is that our one paced midfield didn't have Kennedy in it, so he becomes the scapegoat?
That same one paced midfield, with him playing far more on the ball, got us to a prelim last year.
He's an interesting one. Was genuinely good as a debutant and had 32 shots at goal (19.13) in just 9 matches in 2022 in a middle of the table team. That's quite impressive - 4x matches with 5 or more shots at goal that season.
As a point of comparison, Matt Owies has never had 5 shots at goal in a match in 72 matches (Owie is a very reliable converter, though - so lots of 3.0 and 3.1 efforts)
But as a contrast, Cumberland has been genuinely awful since. This year he barely made the firsts despite Richmond having a thousand injuries and when he did play he averaged 6 disposals, 1 shot at goal, and less than two tackles in 7 games.
Our own Corey Durdin averaged 6.85 disposals, 1 shot at goal and 2.2 tackles in his 11 full games this year - Cumberland was worse that Durdin (who is the luckiest player to be on an AFL list right now...)
If there was even a sneaking suspicion that Cumberland could get back to 2022 levels it might be worth a shot, but his stagnation is pretty bad
How would you have felt if he was sitting in the dugout laughing after being dragged before we'd even scored a point?
And IMO Hewett is not a better midfielder than Kennedy.
bradfisher14
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Incorrect. First half of the 2023 season, when we were on the verge of sacking everyone, he played midfield. Second half of the season he was mostly injured and when he did play it was predominantly as a forward.
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Hewett is a much better defensive midfielder than Kennedy. Can sit on a player, curb his influence and still get a fair bit of it. That's not to say that he is a better player though.
Hewett would also not have got us pick 38 either.
I think they get automatically selected in the RD if they make it that far.
Don't ever think he was a scapegoat, he wanted to play midfield not midfield, ruck, forward and back so the club
said best look outside for that opportunity.
The club wasn't booting him it was just being honest regarding his desire to just be a midfielder.
It's pretty obvious that from the club's standpoint he was superfluous to requirements in the middle but were quite happy to keep him and use him as they saw fit in other areas.
I'll take Ethan Phillips' 1 game over Grainger-Barras. Was on SEN today talking about his time at Hawks.
Said they told him he had another year if Barass deal didn't go through, but was squeezed out by him.
He also said (his own words) that Mitchell gave him 4/5 for his 1 game.
Looking at the Stats for the single game he didnt go too bad.
Are you suggesting maybe we should aim for our own Jaxon 5?
If we use all our picks to match a Ben bid and still have an open list spot that pick will just slide to the end of the draft. So we can match a bid on lucas or pick him there if still available (on main list). Or alternatively let him slide through and list him as a rookie.
Also, if a bid comes after 40 for lucas or ben we just use next available pick. Points no longer a factor.
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Re Lucas. If we pass on our last pick thinking we could take him in the rookie draft. And someone picks him after, then we are stuffed.
Hard to make that happen to get him to go to the rookie draft without anyone taking him after our last pick.
I think just take him with the last pick. Dont muck around, and it wouldnt be nice to leave him up in the air.
I dont know how it works exactly, i would have thought no one had to take him at all in the ND then we can rookie him. I dont want us to risk it.
Hard to make that happen to get him to go to the rookie draft without anyone taking him after our last pick.
I think just take him with the last pick. Dont muck around, and it wouldnt be nice to leave him up in the air.
I dont know how it works exactly, i would have thought no one had to take him at all in the ND then we can rookie him. I dont want us to risk it.
Just don't blame it on the sunshine ok
Further to what I was discussing with Stamos yesterday, there could be a tactic to be slightly short of points for Ben to ensure we do have the last pick in the draft. That way we can use it on a slider and not risk Lucas.
Extending TDK is paramount for us, but I think that Cornes is spot on with his take. We need to be very careful with the type of contract we hand out to him so that we don't get into a Grundy situation.
Kane Cornes names the three 2025 AFL free agents he is most intrigued by
Cornes has named who he believes are the most interesting free agents in 2025.www.sen.com.au
6 years @ $900 is about right BUT he’ll get offers of 7 years and $1.2plus from other clubs especially the saints.
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This isn’t right (yet).
You still need points to match a bid up to #55. From #56 onwards you use your last pick to match.
From next year though, any bid from#37 onwards is matched with your next pick.
