2nd Test Border Gavaskar Trophy December 6-10 1430hrs @ Adelaide Oval

[Coasters7]

Because it's one game and is only part of the equation that goes into selecting a side?

The replacement is likely only getting one game anyway so why not pick a specialist pink ball player?

 

[hotchilli]

The replacement is likely only getting one game anyway so why not pick a specialist pink ball player?

Boland does have a very good record in day-night matches.

 

[Whiskers]

nope I would move smudge to three marsh to four where he bats for WA head 5 inglis six

I don’t mind this.
Too much emphasis is put into not changing the order. It’s as if we don’t want to rattle the cage of our order despite being 4/SFA in every test for 2 years.

A reshuffle can’t hurt if you never perform, it hasn’t been working.
The top 4 bats are generally your best. Our best/most in form are at 5,6,7.

Head basically came in with a new ball last week and made a good score. The only recent series he averaged over 50 was as an opener against India.

Have Head open, move McSweeney to 5. Smith to 3 and the specialist bat Marsh at 4.

However as Marsh is made of glass, replace him with Webster.
I know Marsh made a few runs lately but I still don’t trust him as a specialist bat. I think we need a 4th seamer which isn’t Labuschagne.

Khawaja
Head
McSweeney
Smith
Inglis
Webster
Carey

That looks so much better, we might even get a few runs before McSweeney faces up.
We already know in the Adelaide test we will be 2 down in no time with the line up that will play and most likely setting off the usual collapse being 4 down early - So mix things up.

This line up has more certainty about it. Maybe Carey should bat higher? Almost wasted at 7.

 

[revo333]

Matthew Renshaw. Phil Hughes. A whole host of spinners in the post-Warne period.

They dropped him too quickly in my opinion when he first started.

 

[Jim Prideaux]

The replacement is likely only getting one game anyway so why not pick a specialist pink ball player?

Who, other than Neser and Boland have test pink ball records that are comparable?

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Who are the equivalent players at the moment? Fox put up a best 25 under 25 the other day and it is utter garbage. Not one good state cricketer in the 22-25 age bracket, let alone future test players. The best hope we currently have is Konstas, Goodwin and Connolly and that’s based on hype more than anything they’ve necessarily done.

You're answering your own question. You're not going to turf out guys who been good servants for guys not up to it.
And that being the case doesn't equate to a lack of planning, it could just be a lean period for talent.

 

[samFFC]

Because it's one game and is only part of the equation that goes into selecting a side?

Why do it? I dunno, give shield players experience in conditions they may face if they do get selected. Same as why we use the dukes ball sometimes.

Should we pick the test xi like a team of the round? Abbott is in the squad and most are complaining.

Gabe Bell? Not sure he’s even on the satellite image, let alone the radar. He’d be behind half a dozen at least.

It’s a specific game and specific conditions, and one of the main bowlers is injured, so the opportunity has presented itself for one game.

Bell 42 wickets at 19.9 last Shield season.

I agree behind several others, who I had listed.

 

[the_interloper]

They dropped him too quickly in my opinion when he first started.

Plus I think they recalled him once coming off a pair in a Shield game, that's pretty unfair.

 

[Gough]

add Steve Waugh to that list too. Debuted 1985 but didn't find his feet till the 89 Ashes series

Still my favourite Ashes. That result straight after the '88 blackwash broke English cricket for nearly a generation and we should all feel proud of our part in that.

 

[Gough]

Very sticky here this morning.

 

[Cleavy]

Hopefully we don’t feel deflated like after day 1 of the 1st test.

 

[Big Bryza]

Bland selections again with no eye for the future. Bolands Boxing Day spell will live on forever but he’s just not the guy. Abbott and Doggett also in the squad is f*cking hilarious as well when we have younger blokes with more to offer.

Batting order is a slight issue given there’s basically no replacements putting their hand up but why not change it up and give Inglis a go as a batsman? Actually try to create some sort of accountability.

The selection panel isn’t far enough removed from the players to have an objective view.

Is that right? Who are they?

The batting is the main concern. Ussie, Smith and Marn are cooked.

 

[Big Bryza]

a nearly 34 year old quick in hazlewood breaks down after one game

australian selectors - "lets pick the 35 year old bloke whos played one shield game and went wicketless against the same mob last week"

makes sense

The key to Boland was the continuity he had playing shield cricket. Can't help but feel all the sitting on the sidelines over the past 18 months has hurt his bowling a bit. Anyone that says he doesn't deserve the chance though has rocks in their melon. Hope to see him go well.

 

[Big Bryza]

australia just under evens as favourites !!!
hazlewood out; praying for swinging conditions for boland, if not, bh
and worse still mitch marsh; please retire, you've been great when aus needed you more than a few times but test level
i'm taking the 4/3 against india with a saver on the draw with considerable % of my bank.

I've got a nice bin you can throw that coin in to. Not a snowflakes chance of a draw.

 

[Jim Prideaux]

It’s a specific game and specific conditions, and one of the main bowlers is injured, so the opportunity has presented itself for one game.

Bell 42 wickets at 19.9 last Shield season.

I agree behind several others, who I had listed.

It’s one game, they do it so more of the potential players have experience in these conditions.
Boland has played a pink ball test, and has been training with the pink ball in Adelaide, is is in the squad and was always next cab off the rank.

Bells stats are quite good, going at 24 for his career (batting not so much), but hasn’t been on the selectors radar, and at 29 is at best going to maybe end up like Boland getting a handful of games late in his career as injury cover.

Paris is the unlucky one this time round, and in my opinion guys like Bartlett and Morris are the up and comers who we might see in the future.

 

[revo333]

Plus I think they recalled him once coming off a pair in a Shield game, that's pretty unfair.

First 9 innings in test cricket, 6 times he made over 30.

They couldn't get him out of the team quick enough.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

nope I would move smudge to three marsh to four where he bats for WA head 5 inglis six

Smith is cooked he'd be worse at 3 than Lab. Probably move Head up the order or Marsh not that I'm confident in either opening, McSweeney at 3, Smith stays at 4, he's cooked but let him finish up at 4.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Paris is the unlucky one this time round, and in my opinion guys like Bartlett and Morris are the up and comers who we might see in the future.

Buckingham imo he's better than both of them so long as he stays fit.

 

[74561347]

The key to Boland was the continuity he had playing shield cricket. Can't help but feel all the sitting on the sidelines over the past 18 months has hurt his bowling a bit. Anyone that says he doesn't deserve the chance though has rocks in their melon. Hope to see him go well.

I'm not hoping he bowls badly and I'm happy to be proven wrong, I just think he's underdone and others are ahead of him at this point in time.

If I was India I would absolutly be targeting him. If they can hit him out of the attack or take him for 4 an over, Australia are stuffed given marsh will last as long at the bowling crease as I do in bed and our next best options are marnus or head

 

[LukeParkerno1]

I'm not hoping he bowls badly and I'm happy to be proven wrong, I just think he's underdone and others are ahead of him at this point in time.

If I was India I would absolutly be targeting him. If they can hit him out of the attack or take him for 4 an over, Australia are stuffed given marsh will last as long at the bowling crease as I do in bed and our next best options are marnus or head

Played 2 more long form games than Cummins did leading into the first test. He will be fine, and do a job, he was the safe as houses pick and they were always going that way. The only other alternative was Webster as a number 8, but I don't love a ODI style thinking in test cricket

 

[74561347]

Played 2 more long form games than Cummins did leading into the first test. He will be fine, and do a job, he was the safe as houses pick and they were always going that way. The only other alternative was Webster as a number 8, but I don't love a ODI style thinking in test cricket

And averaged 56 with the ball in those 3 games.

Anyway guess we'll find out over the next 5 days

 

[Gavin Excell]

Very sticky here this morning.

Rain too?

 

[Gough]

Rain too?

Worst of it is going over Streaky Bay at the moment according to BOM so it should be clear by the first ball inshallah. I think the pitch could be pretty juicy to began with.

 

[Gavin Excell]

Worst of it is going over Streaky Bay at the moment according to BOM so it should be clear by the first ball inshallah. I think the pitch could be pretty juicy to began with.

Bit of movement with humidity
Might be one of the very rare occasions you send other team in

 

[LukeParkerno1]

And averaged 56 with the ball in those 3 games.

Anyway guess we'll find out over the next 5 days

Not fussed it’s getting match fitness rather than wickets anyway. Could have easily picked up 3+ in the A game beat the bat 20 plus times