Player Watch #30 Tom McCartin

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Tom McCartin

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In an indication of Tom McCartin’s rapid rise, the young Sydney Swans forward had played 34 AFL games by the end of his teenage years – and that was despite being the youngest player in the league in his debut 2018 season. The Geelong Falcons product has a brilliant marking ability and presents a tall target inside 50, although coach John Longmire has also used him as a key defender. McCartin is the younger brother of number one 2014 AFL Draft pick Paddy, who played 35 AFL games with St Kilda.

Tom McCartin

DOB: 30 December 1999
DRAFT: 2017
RECRUITED FROM: St Joseph's (Vic)/St Joseph's, Geel (Vic)/Geel Gram (Vic)/Geel U18

 
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I know it was a sour loss yesterday, but I just have to say tommy has had an impressive start to the season.

Stats wise he’s been the best one on one key defender in the comp so far having the lowest contested defence loss %. Tied 5th most intercept marks, and also just watching him play in general he’s been very good, especially one on one. Keen to see how he continues his form.
 

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Anyone else think it’s worrying that Tom hasn’t pulled up well and missing another week

It was a very heavy knock and I believe he was close from what John Longmire said earlier this week.

Happy with being cautious here and having him back next week
 
It was a very heavy knock and I believe he was close from what John Longmire said earlier this week.

Happy with being cautious here and having him back next week
The Swans need to be very cautious.

Tommy Mac has suffered a few concussions - he’s on a long term deal & we absolutely need to do everything possible to protect his health and career longevity.
 
Massive problem brewing.

Tom evidently also has a predisposition towards concussion.

Every time a player is concussed, the more prone he becomes to future events.

And symptoms several weeks after the event can’t be good.

He’s on a long-term deal & is a terrific player - but now must be subject to some career risk.
 
Massive problem brewing.

Tom evidently also has a predisposition towards concussion.

Every time a player is concussed, the more prone he becomes to future events.

And symptoms several weeks after the event can’t be good.

He’s on a long-term deal & is a terrific player - but now must be subject to some career risk.

Could be that. Could also be headaches from a different source but they aren't sure so they're erring on the side of caution.
 
I preface this by saying: I genuinely hope Tom is OK & plays 300 games for us.

However, I have been pondering:

He’s contracted through to 2027.

If medical advice deems he can’t play (ever) due to concussion - does he remain on the list (and in the salary cap) for the next 4 years?
Or retire and have his contract terminated?

He’d be on decent coin - it’d be a problem if he’s on the injury list until 2027.
 

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Massive problem brewing.

Tom evidently also has a predisposition towards concussion.

Every time a player is concussed, the more prone he becomes to future events.

And symptoms several weeks after the event can’t be good.

He’s on a long-term deal & is a terrific player - but now must be subject to some career risk.
Could also be the psychological aspect of Paddy being taken out of the game etc. There's a fair few moving parts to it but you're right. I really hope it's not what you say it could be, firstly for Tom you don't want that hanging over your head but secondly for the club. Would be one of the most important parts of our list planning I'd say.
 
Massive problem brewing.

Tom evidently also has a predisposition towards concussion.

Every time a player is concussed, the more prone he becomes to future events.

And symptoms several weeks after the event can’t be good.

He’s on a long-term deal & is a terrific player - but now must be subject to some career risk.
This is not knew & was known by the club only a few years ago.
Signing players long term should never be an option any more.

 
But wait there's more.

"McCartin, who played 15 games in a promising debut season last year, took things slowly after the incident. Normal protocol after a concussion is to get a scan, but this one didn't come back normal, finding a spot on the back of the 19-year-old's head.

"At first glance the doctor wasn't worried about it at all and neither was I," he said. "He just said it was an abnormality that some people have and that I was probably born with it."

"McCartin was put under a general anesthetic for the angiogram, but awoke to good results. He had been born with the abnormality, and was cleared to resume his football career."
"Tom, 22, has signed a four-year extension, which will see him in the red and white until at the least the end of 2027, while Paddy’s two-year deal will carry him through to the end of 2024."
 
I've mentioned long COVID as a hidden thing footy players might be dealing with at times in another thread, but I also think it might interact weirdly with concussions.

I had a concussion about 18 months ago. I've got long COVID now. Some of the symptoms, particularly headaches, brain fog, light sensitivity, are extremely similar, and fall under the general umbrella of autonomic system dysfunction.

Now whether this applies to TMac, no idea. But these symptoms of long COVID are enough for any athlete to fail tests around concussion symptoms, even if the concussion isn't the root cause.

Given how prevalent COVID is, it wouldn't surprise me at all if we see a substantial increase in people feeling "delayed onset concussion symptoms" that are either due to a mild case of long COVID, but have only been noticed since they had a head knock and had to pay attention, or otherwise mild head knocks exacerbating pre-existing long COVID headaches and brain fog.

I reckon it's gonna be a real pickle for sports doctors to try to untangle.
 
I've mentioned long COVID as a hidden thing footy players might be dealing with at times in another thread, but I also think it might interact weirdly with concussions.

I had a concussion about 18 months ago. I've got long COVID now. Some of the symptoms, particularly headaches, brain fog, light sensitivity, are extremely similar, and fall under the general umbrella of autonomic system dysfunction.

Now whether this applies to TMac, no idea. But these symptoms of long COVID are enough for any athlete to fail tests around concussion symptoms, even if the concussion isn't the root cause.

Given how prevalent COVID is, it wouldn't surprise me at all if we see a substantial increase in people feeling "delayed onset concussion symptoms" that are either due to a mild case of long COVID, but have only been noticed since they had a head knock and had to pay attention, or otherwise mild head knocks exacerbating pre-existing long COVID headaches and brain fog.

I reckon it's gonna be a real pickle for sports doctors to try to untangle.
I hope you are on the improve.
Take care.
 
Nothing has been said either way yet
There's a real issue with people on this board making statements of fact based on nothing at all. I'm not talking about stuff that's clearly opinion based but saying "Tom is back next week" or "Amarty is about to sign" like you've got some actual knowledge of the situation is just rubbish.
 
There's a real issue with people on this board making statements of fact based on nothing at all. I'm not talking about stuff that's clearly opinion based but saying "Tom is back next week" or "Amarty is about to sign" like you've got some actual knowledge of the situation is just rubbish.


People always have a source they can never name too
 

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