Not as a tagged either
Let him run forward and kick goals
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Player Watch #34: Jack Graham - MOVED TO WCE - PICK 42 Received
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Let him run forward and kick goals
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He’s that classic defensive mid for me. Two way running and not getting too far forward
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I'm not sure where his best position is. He's not a natural forward, but could possibly play that high half forward role IF he's finally injury free and his form improves dramatically from last season.
I'm not sold on him as a full time mid. There's Taranto, Hopper, Martin, Prestia, Bolton plus Ross, Sonsie, Dow and it seems Baker is a chance to play there as well. It will definitely depend on what combinations are used as there's a few guys there who are one paced and there's a danger of having a very slow midfield group.
I'm not sold on him as a full time mid. There's Taranto, Hopper, Martin, Prestia, Bolton plus Ross, Sonsie, Dow and it seems Baker is a chance to play there as well. It will definitely depend on what combinations are used as there's a few guys there who are one paced and there's a danger of having a very slow midfield group.
I'll give you that...JG does look super fit, muscled and engaged/invested!
Will be interesting to see if he is back to his best!
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The only teenager in the 17 Grand final win being equal highest goal scorer
The hero of the 19 preliminary final playing on following a dislocated shoulder
Fridge is looking like a beast in the pre season training vision genuinely excited what 2024 brings for him and our footy club.
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The hero of the 19 preliminary final playing on following a dislocated shoulder
Fridge is looking like a beast in the pre season training vision genuinely excited what 2024 brings for him and our footy club.
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20 games last couple seasons; 22 games in 21. AFL APP tracker his running stats are always up. Even 2023; he was a brick shizenhouse day 1 2017. Great in the 17 & 20 flag years. TBH Hopper is a brick shizenhouse too. Don't make you a good player.
Skinny ass Dow impressed me. Stay away from the weights, Like Shai, a different mid.
JGTI Too far down the mids/fwd pecking order for me. VFL for starters
Had very interrupted pre-seasons last two years, hardly surprising he wasn’t chiselled and ready to go. This pre-season looking very good for Jack, no excuses this upcoming season, assuming no major setbacks, if he doesn’t produce. He’s a damn good player when he’s up and running, pardon the pun.
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Epitome of the role player. When he puts in a shift and plays his role to a T he is a great addition to the midfield mix. His running power is up there.
Some people keep thinking the GF in 2017 is what he is. He kicked goals on the day because He was sitting on Sloane and smashed him in the forward half and shut him up for the day.
Lesson is he can tag if need be but can be a great defensive mid when he is up and about. And he’s a hard nut. The PF against the handbaggers proves that
Interrupted pre season ???? : round 1 2023 JGTI Top 2nd for Distance run; Top 5 for high speed; 2nd for sprints.
round 2 JGTI Top 4th in distance run; Top 3 in average speed
round 3 JGTI Top 3 for distance; Top 3 for high speed; Top2 for average speed
Round 1 2022 JGTI Top player for average speed. 9.6 km/h
He used to dominate pressure acts. TT took that job from him in 2023.
Unfortunately we have gone backwards with Dimma/Mini gameplan. He is good depth. Wouldn't mind seeing Dow more. Even KMac II
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Didn’t he have turf toe or something last year for most of the year or am I getting him confused with somone else
Dunno.. didn't affect his running stats.
Kmac I gets big running numbers too.
Ain't really helping us win games
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Had turf toe all through 2022, which forced him out of our last 2 games and then he had a delayed start to preseason as the toe healed, then did a hammy early in 2023, which further put him behind the 8 ball. No shock to see that when he returned this preseason fully fit he finished 2nd to Taranto in the time trial. The question is can he become more than a defensive role player and get back to his early career style of play to become more attacking where he uses his endurance to be able to link up in transition on the counter attack.
Fecking hope so...pre-season trial matches will give us all a good indication of form!
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Not sure I understand the hype and love for Graham. I too was seduced after 2017 GF but have seen very little since. People will point to his runner up to Grimes in 2021 season whilst having amnesia to the fact we were completely decimated by injuries especially to our entire midfield: Dustin Martin (16games), Trent Cotchin (17), Dion Prestia (9), Kane Lambert (13) and Shane Edwards (16). Also injuries to Dave Astbury, Nick Vlastuin, Nathan Broad, Bachar Houli, Noah Balta, Tom lynch and Toby Nankervis.
We literally only had 7 players play 20 games or more in Graham (22 games), Shai, Old man Riewoldt, duds Aarts and Castagna and Grimes and a kid named Baker. It would've been impossible for him not to lead 4 forwards and whatever the hell Baker was played as back then. Caddy was banished to magoo's only playing a handful of seniors, Dan Rioli was also banished to learn a new role. We had spuds like RCD, Parker, Stack, Naish, Ralphsmith, Dow, Chol, Eggsmith, Will Martyn, Ross, Garthwaite, Mansell all getting opportunities galore we were so injured.
Graham literally averaged a pathetically paltry 19 paltry possies as the main man and without having the usual suspects do the heavy lifting came 2nd in the BnF by way of having such a large derriere that he couldn't lose at musical chairs cos everyone else fell over to injuries.
Since then he's played 20 games in each of 2022, 2023. People will say IF ONLY he had a full preseason, both times being deemed fit round 1. Even with an interrupted preseason if you play 20 games big deal you should be fully fit and have compensated for that and be cherry ripe after playing a handful of games. What decent games has he played the last couple of years.
If the club had any faith in Graham they wouldn't have spent up big on Taranto and Hopper or tried to shop him to Port Adelaide. By virtue of these bullsh1t trigger clause contracts we got stuck with him again. People are saying he looks strong and fit in the video the club put out, SFW Matt Arnott looked like Schwarzenegger and how'd that turn out?
For mine depth wise he's clearly behind Taranto, Prestia, Martin, Hopper, Bolton, Ross, Baker, Short and surely Dow and Sonsie deserve regular senior games since Graham's had a monopoly on constantly being selected yet delivering SFA the majority of his career. I'm sure if they had 20 games pumped into them they'd match and quickly surpass his minimal output. He's slow, will never be a backman, and since he only averages 0.4 goals a game clearly he's not damaging as a fwd, especially when his opponent leaves him in his wake running his full measure before repelling clear (shouldn't happen when you've seen all these whiz bang graphs that state he's so fast yet always does happen so baffling......)
We literally only had 7 players play 20 games or more in Graham (22 games), Shai, Old man Riewoldt, duds Aarts and Castagna and Grimes and a kid named Baker. It would've been impossible for him not to lead 4 forwards and whatever the hell Baker was played as back then. Caddy was banished to magoo's only playing a handful of seniors, Dan Rioli was also banished to learn a new role. We had spuds like RCD, Parker, Stack, Naish, Ralphsmith, Dow, Chol, Eggsmith, Will Martyn, Ross, Garthwaite, Mansell all getting opportunities galore we were so injured.
Graham literally averaged a pathetically paltry 19 paltry possies as the main man and without having the usual suspects do the heavy lifting came 2nd in the BnF by way of having such a large derriere that he couldn't lose at musical chairs cos everyone else fell over to injuries.
Since then he's played 20 games in each of 2022, 2023. People will say IF ONLY he had a full preseason, both times being deemed fit round 1. Even with an interrupted preseason if you play 20 games big deal you should be fully fit and have compensated for that and be cherry ripe after playing a handful of games. What decent games has he played the last couple of years.
If the club had any faith in Graham they wouldn't have spent up big on Taranto and Hopper or tried to shop him to Port Adelaide. By virtue of these bullsh1t trigger clause contracts we got stuck with him again. People are saying he looks strong and fit in the video the club put out, SFW Matt Arnott looked like Schwarzenegger and how'd that turn out?
For mine depth wise he's clearly behind Taranto, Prestia, Martin, Hopper, Bolton, Ross, Baker, Short and surely Dow and Sonsie deserve regular senior games since Graham's had a monopoly on constantly being selected yet delivering SFA the majority of his career. I'm sure if they had 20 games pumped into them they'd match and quickly surpass his minimal output. He's slow, will never be a backman, and since he only averages 0.4 goals a game clearly he's not damaging as a fwd, especially when his opponent leaves him in his wake running his full measure before repelling clear (shouldn't happen when you've seen all these whiz bang graphs that state he's so fast yet always does happen so baffling......)
probably a bit harsh but can't say I disagree with much you put forward there.
Look JG was in Top 5 running stats in 2017; 2018 he was a bit faster.......
Still running well preseason 2024.
I noticed Lambert had even bigger running numbers. Kmac is always up there
In the meantime we have added Hopper and Tarranto to the mix lose a Cotch
JG was actually very good player in the flags.
If I was a new coach thinking about our biggest problem on field. The fact that TT and JH sent us backwards.
TT, Dusty and Shai had fairly good seasons.
Having said that the fwd line was also malfunctioning.
I think the Prestia, Graham and Hopper mid and fwd was a big problem.
Getting the ball in the fwd line but couldn't convert.
My solution play more forwards in the forward line.
Lynch and kosi are 2 new faces (virtually). Pickett is our best winger. Play him there. Miller KPD depth.
No pressure fwds. Think we have a player or 20 below 180cm.
A third tall.
Gunna be interesting to see if the role players hold their spots.
How long the new game plan takes to work. How yze makes change to the 22 each week.
If it doesn't work out for Graham. I'm sure dimma and the stats guy would be all over him.
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JGTI is a great player, as long as you play him to his strengths. His ability to get from contest to contest creates outnumbers all day, and provides that extra player in our defensive structure or attacking set up. His ability to get the ball is good, but not top notch. As the next guy into contests he is worth a lot. His skills are good.
So IMHO he needs to play in a role that requires running from contest to contest, where he can get the ball, but also stop the oppo. The old Lambo role, or a hybrid inside/outside defensively focused mid. Playing that sort of role he is top notch. But he isn't creative, or dangerous outside of that. Structure our set up right and he is great.
Main issue is that we might have too many guys running through those areas, so he has his work cut out. But if fit and played right Jack makes our team better - and that is the measure of a player.
So IMHO he needs to play in a role that requires running from contest to contest, where he can get the ball, but also stop the oppo. The old Lambo role, or a hybrid inside/outside defensively focused mid. Playing that sort of role he is top notch. But he isn't creative, or dangerous outside of that. Structure our set up right and he is great.
Main issue is that we might have too many guys running through those areas, so he has his work cut out. But if fit and played right Jack makes our team better - and that is the measure of a player.
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| NAME: | ACHIEVEMENTS | DATE: | |
| Abbas the Great | King of Kings of Persia | 1588 – 1629 | |
| JACK GRAHAM THE GREAT | -Beat out Bossman Bob Cormie, Bill Travis, Principal Wiggins and a lumberjack in a blueberry pie eating competition. -Won Adam Sandler $160,000 to pay off the IRS by winning the 2012 Boston Marathon at 8000/1 odds. -Came 2nd in 2021 BnF when injuries decimated entire squad. -Played well in 2017 GF. Checks out with me. I mean what did Alexander do to earn the title of The Great. Useless bastard only conquered half the world. No proof he ever won a blueberry pie eating contest, much less kept Donny Berger out of jail!!!! | ||
| Abgar VIII | King of Osroene | ? – 212 | |
| Afonso I of Portugal | First King of Portugal | 1139 – 1185 | |
| Akbar the Great | Third Mughal emperor of India | 1542 – 1605 | |
| Alan I, King of Brittany | Duke of Brittany | ? – 907 | |
| Ahmad Shah Durrani | King of Afghanistan | 1722 – 1773 | |
| Alexander the Great | Basileus of Macedonia and King of Kings of Persia, Pharaoh of Egypt. | 356 BC – 323 BC | |
| Alfonso III of Asturias | King of León, Galicia and Asturias | 848 – 910 | |
| Alfred the Great | King of Wessex and the Anglo-Saxons | 848/849 – 899 | |
| Amenhotep III | Pharaoh of Egypt | ? – 1353 BC | |
| Antiochus III the Great | Ruler of the Seleucid Empire | 241 BC – 187 BC | |
| Ashoka | Third Mauryan Emperor of India | 268 BC – 232 BC | |
| Ashot I of Armenia | King of Armenia | 820 – 890 | |
| Ashot I of Iberia | First Bagratid king of Georgia | ? – 830 | |
| Askia Mohammad I | Ruler of the Songhai Empire | 1442 – 1538 | |
| Bagrat V of Georgia | King of Georgia | ? – 1393 | |
| Barnim III | Duke of Stettin Pomerania | c. 1300 – 1368 | |
| Bayinnaung | King of Toungoo Dynasty (in present-day Myanmar) | 1550 – 1581 | |
| Berengaria of Castile | Queen of Castile and Toledo | 1179 – 1246 | |
| Bhumibol Adulyadej | King of Thailand | 1927 – 2016 | |
| Bogusław V | Duke of Wolgast and Słupsk | 1317/18 – 1374 | |
| Bolesław I the Brave | First king of Poland | 967 – 1025 | |
| Casimir III the Great | King of Poland (1333–1370) | 1310 – 1370 | |
| Catherine the Great | Empress of Russia | 1729 – 1796 | |
| Charlemagne ("Charles the Great") | King of the Franks and Emperor of the Romans | 800 – 814 | |
| Chlothar II | King of Neustria and King of the Franks | 584 – 629 | |
| Chulalongkorn | King of Siam (in present-day Thailand) | 1868 – 1910 | |
| Constantine the Great | Roman emperor | 272 – 337 | |
| Cnut the Great | King of England (1016–1035), Denmark (1018–1035) and Norway (1028–1035) | 985 or 995 – 1035 | |
| Cyrus the Great | Founder and First Shahanshah of Persia Achaemenid Empire, (in present-day Iran) | 600 BC or 576 BC – 530 BC | |
| Darius the Great | Third Shahanshah of Persia Achaemenid Empire, (in present-day Iran) | 550 BC – 486 BC | |
| Eucratides I | Ruler of the Greco-Bactrian Kingdom and the Indo-Greek Kingdom | 170 BC – 145 BC | |
| Ewuare | Founder and Oba (king) of the Benin Empire (in present-day Nigeria) | ? – 1473 | |
| Farrukhan the Great | Ispahbadh of Tabaristan | 712 – 728 | |
| Ferdinand I of León | King of León and Count of Castile | 1015 – 1065 | |
| Frederick the Great | King of Prussia | 1712 – 1786 | |
| Genghis Khan | Founder and Great Khan of the Mongol Empire | 1162 – 1227 | |
| Gwrgan Fawr | King of Ergyng | c. 619 – 645 | |
| Gustavus Adolphus of Sweden | King of Sweden (1611–1632), founder of the Swedish Empire, and noted military leader | 1594 – 1632 | |
| Gwanggaeto the Great | King of Goguryeo, one of the Three Kingdoms of Korea | 374 – 413 | |
| Henry IV of France | King of France and King of Navarre | 1553 – 1610 | |
| Herod the Great | King of Judea | 73 BC/74 BC – 4 BC | |
| Hugh III of Cyprus | King of Cyprus and Jerusalem | 1267 – 1284 | |
| Hugh Magnus | Co-King of France | 1007 – 1025 | |
| Inal the Great of Circassia | Supreme Prince of Circassia | ? – 1453 | |
| Ivan III of Russia | Grand Prince of Moscow | 1440 – 1505 | |
| Iyasu I | Emperor of Ethiopia | 1654 – 1706 | |
| Jeongjo of Joseon | 22nd King of the Joseon Dynasty | 1753 – 1800 | |
| John I of Portugal | King of Portugal and the Algarve | 1358 – 1433 | |
| John II of Aragon and Navarre | King of Aragon and, through his wife, King of Navarre | 1398 – 1479 | |
| Justinian I | Roman Emperor (Eastern) | 483 – 565 | |
| Kamehameha I | First king of Hawaii | 1758 – 1819 | |
| Kangxi Emperor | Emperor of Qing China | 1654 – 1722 | |
| Kanishka | Emperor of Kushan Empire, ruled at Central Asia and parts of India | 127 – 150 | |
| Karikala | Early Chola Emperor of India | Multiple | |
| Kvirike III of Kakheti | King of Kakheti in eastern Georgia | 1010 – 1029 | |
| Kublai Khan | Mongol ruler in the 13th century and Emperor of China; founder of the Yuan Dynasty | 1215 – 1294 | |
| Leo I the Thracian | Roman emperor | 457 – 474 | |
| Llywelyn the Great | King of Gwynedd and de facto ruler of most of Wales | 1172 – 1240 | |
| Louis I of Hungary | King of Hungary, Croatia, and Poland | 1326 – 1382 | |
| Lê Thánh Tông | Emperor of Đại Việt, the longest-reigning and greatest emperor of the Later Lê dynasty | 1442 – 1497 | |
| Louis XIV of France | King of France and Navarre | 1638 – 1715 | |
| Maharaja Ranjit Singh | King of Punjab India and Pakistan | 1780 – 1839 | |
| Manuel I Komnenos | Byzantine emperor | 1143 – 1180 | |
| Marianus IV of Arborea | Judge of Arborea | 1319 – 1376 | |
| Miloš Obrenović I of Serbia | Prince of Serbia | 1780 – 1860 | |
| Mircea the Elder | Voivode of Wallachia | 1386 – 1394, 1397 – 1418 | |
| Mithridates I of Parthia | Fifth King of Parthia, (in present-day Iran) | 171 BC – 132 BC | |
| Mithridates II of Parthia | Eighth King of Parthia, (in present-day Iran) | 121 BC – 91 BC | |
| Mithridates VI Eupator | King of Pontus | 120 BC – 63 BC | |
| Mongkut | King of Siam (in present-day Thailand) | 1804 – 1868 | |
| Mubarak Al-Sabah | Ruler of Kuwait | 1840 – 1915 | |
| Mstislav I of Kiev | Grand Prince of Kievan Rus' | 1076 – 1132 | |
| Narai | King of Ayutthaya (in present-day Thailand) | 1633 – 1688 | |
| Naresuan | King of Ayutthaya (in present-day Thailand) | 1590 – 1605 | |
| Nebuchadnezzar II | King of the Neo-Babylonian Empire | 642 BC – 562 BC | |
| Otto the Great | Holy Roman Emperor | 912 – 973 | |
| Owain Gwynedd | King of All Wales | c. 1100/23 – 1170 | |
| Pakal | Ruler of the Maya city-state of Palenque | 603 – 683 | |
| Parakramabahu I | King of Polonnaruwa | 1123 – 1186 | |
| Peter Krešimir IV of Croatia | King of Croatia | 1059 – 1075 | |
| Peter the Great | Tsar of Russia; founder of the Russian Empire | 1672 – 1725 | |
| Peter III of Aragon | King of Aragon and King of Sicily | 1239 – 1285 | |
| Pharasmanes I of Iberia | King of Iberia | 1 – 58 | |
| Phutthayotfa Chulalok | King of Siam (In present-day Thailand) | 1782 – 1809 | |
| Ptolemy II Philadelphus | Pharaoh of the Ptolemaic Kingdom | 284 BC – 246 BC | |
| Qin Shi Huang | First emperor of China, who unified China from Warring States | 259 BC – 210 BC | |
| Radama I | First king of greater Madagascar | 1793 – 1828 | |
| Radu IV the Great | Voivode of Wallachia | 1495 – 1508 | |
| Rajaraja Chola I | Imperial Chola Emperor of India | 947 – 1014 | |
| Rajendra Chola I | Imperial Chola Emperor of India | 979 – 1044 | |
| Ramesses II | Pharaoh of Egypt known for his temples, monuments, and military feats. | 1279 BC – 1213 BC | |
| Ram Khamhaeng | King of Sukhothai (In present-day Thailand) | 1237/1247 – 1298 | |
| Reza Shah | Shah of Iran | 1925 – 1941 | |
| Rhodri the Great | King of Gwynedd (in present-day Wales) | 820 – 878 | |
| Roman the Great | Grand Prince of Kiev | 1160 – 1205 | |
| Sancho III of Pamplona | King of Navarre | 992 – 1035 | |
| Sargon of Akkad | Ruler of the Akkadian Empire | ? – 2215 BC | |
| Sejong the Great | Fourth King of the Joseon Dynasty | 1397 – 1450 | |
| Shapur II | Tenth Shahanshah of Persia Sassanid Empire, (in present-day Iran) | 309 – 379 | |
| Simeon I of Bulgaria | Tsar of Bulgaria | 864 – 927 | |
| Simon I of Kartli | King of Kartli | 1537 – 1611 | |
| Solomon I of Imereti | King of Imereti | 1735 – 1784 | |
| Sonni Ali Ber | First Ruler of the Songhai Empire | 1462 – 1492 | |
| Stefan Uroš I | King of Serbia | 1243 – 1276 | |
| Stephen the Great | Prince of Moldavia (Romania) | 1457 – 1504 | |
| Svatopluk I of Moravia | King of Moravia | 840 – 894 | |
| Świętopełk II the Great | Duke of Gdańsk Pomerania | ? – 1266 | |
| Taksin | King of the Thonburi Kingdom (in present-day Thailand) | 1734 – 1783 | |
| Tamar of Georgia | Queen of the Georgian Empire | 1160 – 1223 | |
| Emperor Taizong of Tang | Emperor of Tang (China) | 598 – 649 | |
| Theoderic the Great | King of the Ostrogoths, regent of the Visigoths and a viceroy of the Eastern Roman Empire | 454 – 526 | |
| Theodosius I | Roman emperor | 347 – 395 | |
| Thoros II of Armenia | Lord of Armenian Cilicia | ? – 1169 | |
| Thutmose III | Pharaoh of Egypt | 1481 BC – 1425 BC | |
| Tigranes the Great | Emperor of Armenia | 140 BC – 55 BC | |
| Tiridates III of Armenia | King of Armenia | 285 – 339 | |
| Valdemar I of Denmark | King of Denmark | 1131 – 1182 | |
| Valentinian I | Roman emperor | 364 – 375 | |
| Vigraharaja IV | King of Chauhan Dynasty of India | 1150 – 1164 | |
| Vladimir the Great | Kievan Rus' ruler; Prince of Novgorod and Grand Prince of Kiev | 958 – 1015 | |
| Vytautas | Grand Duke of Lithuania | 1350 – 1430 | |
| Emperor Wu of Han | Emperor of Han China, from whose reign dynasty the Chinese majority people are named | 156 BC – 87 BC | |
| Xerxes I | Fourth Shahanshah of Persia Achaemenid Empire, (in present-day Iran) | 519 BC – 465 BC | |
| Yuknoom Ch'een II | Maya king of Kaan | 600 – c. 680 |
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Was Graham carrying an injury the last two years? Once running got to top speed, he hobbled. I don't know how to explain it, but I think he was carrying something because fully fit players don't normally run like that.
I'm just speculating, but I hope he's over whatever that was. FWIW, he's looking good in the videos. As a side note, a lot of our players are in pretty good shape. They look like they gained some strength. Wonder what Yze's changed from the previous preseason.
I'm just speculating, but I hope he's over whatever that was. FWIW, he's looking good in the videos. As a side note, a lot of our players are in pretty good shape. They look like they gained some strength. Wonder what Yze's changed from the previous preseason.
Turf toe or some toe issue I believe, had some surgery but was still not right.
