AFL Autopsy 5 pt loss v Swans

[84859300]

seems pretty simple. basically an automatic goal if caught.

From the tweet, it looks like an umpire did see it. There was an umpire running right at him.

 

[Loonerty]

Highlights of the night:
- Chatting to the security guy outside the prematch pub about AFL and how shit the Warriors (NRL) are
- I saved the life of the girl in front of me when she stood on her chair to sing the Sydney song and fell backwards
- A fellow Essendon fan on the train with a really impressive moustache and smelling strongly of beer saw that I was wearing my Essendon jacket and said "I'm coming in" and hugged me. It was a nice moment where we were there for each other. That's a nice thing about football.
- Swans fan behind me who must have said "That is RIDICULOUS" about six times after Rampe played on and got tackled by Stringer

Bad parts:
- Like the whole game
- Went to Maccas on the way home and waited probably about half an hour I'm the drive through
- I have to be up at 8

At least I'm seeing Detective Pikachu tomorrow.

 

[yodellinhank]

Well we were cheated out of that.

Did we deserve to win? No.
Should we have won? Yes.

Once again, a result decided by completely incompetent umpiring.

There's no two ways about this. You can't say "it had no effect on the kick", because that is completely irrelevant. You shake the post, it's a free kick at the top of the goalsquare.

That's the rule, hard and fast, taken directly from the AFL's own rule book.

There's no other way of looking at it, plain and simple.

You're assuming Myers kicks the goal though. He could very well hoof it into the man on the mark and then crack up laughing with Dyson Heppell at how funny it was.

 

[Amazing Racer]

A loss we all knew was coming - like Carlton last year. Two of our leaders laughing while others are shattered.

We have been overrated for a while but we are too stupid to bottom out to get picks

 

[yaco55]

Ultimately lost to a bottom four team who struggle to win at home - Have banged on about the futility of HAVING to win the inside 50 count - Happy to lose the inside 50 count by 5 to 8 most weeks, if you CAN ensure quality entries.

 

[windyhill]

Can't wait for the traditional late run for 9th-10th. Where we win games which mean f/all.But still seem to suck a lot of people in IE, media and Essendon supporters.

 

[JayJ20]

It's fitting that we lose to Sydney in Sydney with a clear free kick not paid. Just to add to all of the other 1 goal losses to Sydney in Sydney where a free kick isn't paid (or a free paid to them). If one of our players jumped on that post, the free kick would be paid immediately.

All we need is for the AFL to tick off on it and we can add this to the list of controversial losses to Sydney in Sydney.

 

[raskolnikov]

Out: AFL
In: NRL


Wait. My NRL team is also shit. That doesn't work.

 

[JayJ20]

Who cares if we deserved the win or not. The fact is we should've had it. Umpire saw Rampe jump on the goal post, the goal post was clearly shaking, and if the umpire had any idea of the rules we would've been given a game winning free kick.

I will love to see the umpires justification for this one. "He didn't mean to shake the post... he was just trying to climb up it to... uhhh... touch the ball. The goal post moving around wasn't really his fault, even though he jumped into it with the full weight of his body.... us umpires do good work in the community".

This.

I don't give a crap about the loss. Even if Myers kicked it, I'd say we didn't deserve to call it a win.

Don't however completely ignore the rule and tell Rampe to get down from the post when that should be an immediate free kick on the goal line. Stupidity like that deserves to be called correctly.

Funnily enough, Dempsey's play on, though harsh, was called correctly. The ump had the balls to call it in front of the home crowd. Of course we don't get the same treatment in Sydney. Massive blunder.

 

[DapperJong]

Went to Maccas

Engadine?

 

[lenny2013]

Can't wait for the traditional late run for 9th-10th. Where we win games which mean f/all.But still seem to suck a lot of people in IE, media and Essendon supporters.

We are becoming the new age 9th mond.

 

[Squeaky]

We are becoming the new age 9th mond.

Except that we will finish lower than 9th...
Elevendon.

 

[coastalpipeline]

Out: AFL
In: NRL


Wait. My NRL team is also ****. That doesn't work.

Can I support your shit NRL team.
It's a long time til I get to watch my shit NFL team. :-D

 

[Squeaky]

It's fitting that we lose to Sydney in Sydney with a clear free kick not paid.. If one of our players jumped on that post, the free kick would be paid immediately..

Now i don't think we were robbed. We mugged ourselves again. But i have no doubt that if the teams were reversed the umpire would have paid that same free against Essendon.
Nothing surer!

 

[DERO]

Season starts next week.

 

[Howard Moon]

Yeah, and stringer doesn't come across as a quantum physicist, if he knows the rule I expect the umpires too ..

I bet he only knows it cause he's been pinged for it at some point in his career. Reckon he has post shaker in his resume

 

[CBombers17]

I still can't fathom how can that many umpires miss it after the siren - and Stringer highlights it.

Jakey was right on to it.

Probably got pinged for it as a junior

 

[CBombers17]

I bet he only knows it cause he's been pinged for it at some point in his career. Reckon he has post shaker in his resume

We quoted different posts with the same point at the same time...not bad!

 

[ant555]

Out: AFL
In: NRL


Wait. My NRL team is also ****. That doesn't work.

Yep. Same boat.
My NRL side is the poster boy for what happens when you sack too many coaches.

 

[Santoz]

Can someone explain to me why Heppell sets up as the sweeper at every stoppage whereby his left foot is hard up against the boundary line? Swans defenders set up straight down the line. We win it, feed it back, Hepp rolls left to the boundary, bombs it to the outnumber & they mark or clear it. Repeat. **** me.

Dumbest football going forward I've seen in years too. If I was a forward I'd be lambasting the mids. Run & gun is fine, but you still need to use it well if we don't have a genuine tall forward (that's not Clarke) like Joey playing.

Swans game plan going forward. Bomb it long. We have two genuine talls (Hurley & Hooker) that can kill a high ball. Everyone else is ****ing useless. Hooker hardly saw a high footy as Reid was a genuine lead up meaning it was Hurley vs 4 Swans medium to tall forwards who all genuinely run and jump at the footy. They looked like taking a catch every single time they went forward and our mozzie fleet stood around with their thumb up their arse looking at someone else to come help as they dislike body contact when having to fly. Ambrose was forced to be a key defender in the air (as Hurley & Hook were negated) and he wouldn't have spoiled it once a quarter.

I hate this ****in mob.

 

[Vander18]

Out: Clarke, Ham, Zaka, Myers and Francis

In: Daniher, Mynott, Ridley, Begley and Langford

Francis was pretty good, certainly wouldn’t drop him. Langford can stay in the twos - at this point I see him more as part of the problem than as part of the solution.

Agree with other changes.

Other

 

[ant555]

Forget the stupid free kick. We lost because we sucked.

We are losing games because we can not defend as a team.

Our gun midfielders going at under 60% eff.

No tall forward targets. All injured.

Walla having no effect on too many games.

Young players being a bit up and down with their form.

Coffee club leadership group.

No hard edge or mongrel .

 

[Vander18]

Can someone explain to me why Heppell sets up as the sweeper at every stoppage whereby his left foot is hard up against the boundary line? Swans defenders set up straight down the line. We win it, feed it back, Hepp rolls left to the boundary, bombs it to the outnumber & they mark or clear it. Repeat. **** me.

Dumbest football going forward I've seen in years too. If I was a forward I'd be lambasting the mids. Run & gun is fine, but you still need to use it well if we don't have a genuine tall forward (that's not Clarke) like Joey playing.

Swans game plan going forward. Bomb it long. We have two genuine talls (Hurley & Hooker) that can kill a high ball. Everyone else is ******* useless. Hooker hardly saw a high footy as Reid was a genuine lead up meaning it was Hurley vs 4 Swans medium to tall forwards who all genuinely run and jump at the footy. They looked like taking a catch every single time they went forward and our mozzie fleet stood around with their thumb up their arse looking at someone else to come help as they dislike body contact when having to fly. Ambrose was forced to be a key defender in the air (as Hurley & Hook were negated) and he wouldn't have spoiled it once a quarter.

I hate this ****in mob.

All true enough, did think Redman was excellent in the air however.

 

[yodellinhank]

Season starts next week.

Thank christ all the rest of it was just JLT

 

[mike14]

Woke up to the goal-post 'controversy' and all I can really say is that it sums up the modern game and the AFL as a brand pretty perfectly for mine.

Also realised that I really only care about last nights result in a detached way. There's clearly something deeply, culturally 'wrong' (wrong as in it has a negative effect on building teams, preparing for and winning football games) at the club right now and while it will be interesting to see if and how its tried to be fixed', I really can't see where it's going to start.
Dropping the usual suspects on gameday doesn't change a culture that clearly isn't able to get a team ready to play (see most of our 1st quarters, and the start of seasons), and it really doesn't seem that we have enough of the type of player/personality in the group who will put their hand up and both say and demonstrate the application, dedication and playing style needed to win important (finals) games of football. We will continue to win games here and there because we have some talent on the list and from time to time they'll click together, but I can't see this group achieving success together, and I also worry that the younger guys get inculcated with the same attitudes as a lot of the senior guys, meaning that they now perceive this as 'good enough'.

Does a lot of it still stem from the 'saga'? Did the senior guys who missed a year and got dragged through the mud realise that the game is fleeting and can be taken away at any moment, so just enjoy it? Did they glimpse life away from footy and understand there's more out there, just being fixated on training and playing is a waste? Neither of things are wrong, but they aren't conducive to a winning environment. I won't question Heppell's leadership (at least he tried to get things going last night), I won't question the endeavor of most at the contest (we have some lazy players, that's pretty much expected to a degree), and genuinely believe that from siren-to-siren the playing group wants to win. After the siren and during the week? I think we've established a set a culture that is professional and hard working, but doesn't have that mind-set of continual challenge and improvement. They guys turn up, they train 'hard', but the ruthlessness and desire that is needed for more than 2 hours each week in order to become a champion team instead of just good, solid proffesionals just doesn't appear to be there. Until you can instill that mindset into a playing group, along with a game-plan or instructions that best utilise the skills available, we are going to keep being a mediocre club who has to hope the umps call technically correct frees in order to have a chance....