5th Test Border Gavaskar Trophy January 3-7 1000hrs @ the SCG

[HirdsTheWord]

Warner is no brain surgeon, but Konstas is a snag short of a barbie if ever there was one. (Undisciplined) He's a long way from being Australia's opening batting answer and has a lot to learn, i was a fan until that 2nd innings. These two upcoming Tests against Sri Lanka can either make him or break him.

i highly doubt a 2 test series in Sri Lanka is going to make or break a 19 year old....

He is 19......do you want him to come in and be peak Matt Hayden or something?

it is highly irregular that a teenager is playing for a national test side. let the kid live, experience will only make him better.

 

[Silver Tongue]

Rubbish speculation. He is 19 years old, does that mean he stays in the side forever? No of course not. He will get dropped at some point just like the 100's of Aussie batsmen before him.

Also, you're comparing a 19 yo to a 31 yo cricketer who has been in the system a decade, so of course the mature player is going to have better technique FFS.

I actually compared him to Peter Toohey and David Hookes. Both were 21-22- ish. Do you know who Peter Toohey is?

Best to read my post prior to getting aggressive.

Webster is a separate discussion.

You keep doing you and I will post relevant comparisons.

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Anyone else already suffering test cricket withdrawal symptoms?

 

[Mick F]

Completely agree, although there’s a post right above this trying to compare Bumrahs ball bowled to a series in the 70’s, so it’s not just younger players the grumpy old men get grumpy about

Gilchrist scored a century in 57 balls against England. Nothing wrong with calculated aggression, but coming up through the grades, he learnt you had to remain in the middle to score runs.

 

[JackOutback]

Anyone else already suffering test cricket withdrawal symptoms?

Sure, but watching 41-year-old Dan Christian make a comeback is also entertaining.

 

[MarcMaverick]

The one glaring -ve I have is, I have Test Cricket Withdrawal. Tried to watch the BBL, and it ain't it chief. Its like eating a insanely sugary doughnut after eating a juicy sirloin stake with an amazing salad.

 

[MarcMaverick]

Gilchrist scored a century in 57 balls against England. Nothing wrong with calculated aggression, but coming up through the grades, he learnt you had to remain in the middle to score runs.

At the WACA, god I miss that ground for Test Cricket. What was remarkable is that he had a run of really low scores before that and he was on a pair IIRC.

 

[Silver Tongue]

The one glaring -ve I have is, I have Test Cricket Withdrawal. Tried to watch the BBL, and it ain't it chief.

BBL is as boring as watching dog shit turn white.

Test cricket rules

 

[MarcMaverick]

I mean don't get me wrong, I like Perth Stadium but it doesn't replace the rawness of the WACA. And I wished that they had that Subiaco Oval Siren for PS.

 

[MarcMaverick]

BBL is as boring as watching dog shit turn white.

Test cricket rules

How the turn-tables, eh?

 

[PhatBoy]

Imagine this board in the mid 1980s when a draw against New Zealand was the highlight of the summer.

Or if the crowds were the same as the ones that turn out in Pakistan, the West Indies, Kandy, or the Sri Lankan series in SA

 

[Silver Tongue]

How the turn-tables, eh?

Qui? You mean table turns friendo?

 

[MarcMaverick]

Qui?

Its the inverse of how the tables have turned. Used to be that BBL was fun and Test Cricket was not as fun. Now its the other way.

 

[Silver Tongue]

Its the inverse of how the tables have turned. Used to be that BBL was fun and Test Cricket was not as fun. Now its the other way.

I never thought BBL/IPL was exciting. I have Fox and never watch IPL.

Always been a fan of Test cricket. World Cup 50 over stuff has me somewhat interested.

Cheers

 

[revo333]

On another note TGC poddy has become Captain Serious all of a sudden. Don't want to upset the Indians it seems.

Didn't get that impression with them, they have a lot of respect for Bumrah as a bowler but still paid out on Indias behaviour and conduct.

 

[Pistol Night]

Anyone else already suffering test cricket withdrawal symptoms?

Yes. Going to the toilet doesn't hit like it did yesterday

 

[revo333]

The Live show in Sydney on Thursday night with Punter & special Guest Gilly was a roast of India, Hayden, Darren Lehmann and some other stuff i cant repeat on here.

I've always wondered, at the live shows is it phones off, no recording ect ?

 

[Mick F]

I never thought BBL/IPL was exciting. I have Fox and never watch IPL.

Always been a fan of Test cricket. World Cup 50 over stuff has me somewhat interested.

Cheers

For people with no family life, or singles too lazy to have a hobby*.

* drinking is a hobby. So no probs watching it with your mates, whilst having a couple.

 

[revo333]

Be nice to win a series in England.

Its mind boggling we havent won since 2001 yet England have a shorter drought beating us in 10/11.

In hindsight it probably shows how bad England were in the 90's that we just expected we were going to keep going over there and beating them.

 

[revo333]

In the debate about the pitches, and why we are seeing Tests end in less than three days, I'd like to offer this point of view. The contemporary batsmen, in terms of stroke play, are more advanced than at any time in Test cricket. 10-20 years ago, we'd never have believed it possible that ramp shots, reverse sweeps, etc were accepted in Test cricket.

Overall the game has speed up in general.

But I think they need stay at 5 day test matches for the potential loss of play with the weather.

Australia starting to work out that most test matches now need to start on a Friday.

 

[Borisdog]

Or if the crowds were the same as the ones that turn out in Pakistan, the West Indies, Kandy, or the Sri Lankan series in SA

Fortunately that won’t happen here.

There’s enough people with money, the grounds are good, and above all, cricket has a solid following amongst our population who can afford the time and money to go.

 

[Borisdog]

Qui? You mean table turns friendo?

Que?

 

[powerrrrrrrrrrrr]

Are you seriously suggesting that most dismissals were brought about by balls hitting cracks etc, rather than appalling technique?

I’m suggesting the pitches were far too much in favour of the bowlers and particularly the fast bowlers. They were green as a forest for Australian conditions and offered far too much to the pace bowlers who on both sides, ripped through the batting.

Spin didn’t play a part in any match. The matches didn’t go long enough for the pitches to deteriorate or cracks to open. Half the innings were done in 50 overs and it wasn’t a contest between bat and ball whereby if you got through the new ball on day 1 and 2, the game would open up. That suggests to me, the pitches were far too favourable to pace bowlers.

There was no doubt some excellent bowling and there always will be with 2 world class attacks. However on both sides the batsmen struggled outside of an innings here and there. Some of these are the best batsmen in the world. These aren’t all players with poor technique.

When you only have 2 batsman average over 40 in a series whereby 6 of the top 15 batsman in the world are playing, that indicates it’s not an evenly matched contest between bat and ball.

There was still some great cricket, however the Boxing Day match was by far the best match as it was an actual contest.

Watching multiple matches decided by half way through day 3 isn’t much of a contest in my view and not a great overall spectacle.

It is possible to have some great moments but still have an overall poor game as a test match.

 

[troybe]

Que?

Richard Chee Quee?

 

[Borisdog]

I’m suggesting the pitches were far too much in favour of the bowlers and particularly the fast bowlers. They were green as a forest for Australian conditions and offered far too much to the pace bowlers who on both sides, ripped through the batting.

Spin didn’t play a part in any match. The matches didn’t go long enough for the pitches to deteriorate or cracks to open. Half the innings were done in 50 overs and it wasn’t a contest between bat and ball whereby if you got through the new ball on day 1 and 2, the game would open up. That suggests to me, the pitches were far too favourable to pace bowlers.

There was no doubt some excellent bowling and there always will be with 2 world class attacks. However on both sides the batsmen struggled outside of an innings here and there. Some of these are the best batsmen in the world. These aren’t all players with poor technique.

When you only have 2 batsman average over 40 in a series whereby 6 of the top 15 batsman in the world are playing, that indicates it’s not an evenly matched contest between bat and ball.

There was still some great cricket, however the Boxing Day match was by far the best match as it was an actual contest.

Watching multiple matches decided by half way through day 3 isn’t much of a contest in my view and not a great overall spectacle.

It is possible to have some great moments but still have an overall poor game as a test match.

You’re pretty much on the money IMO. However I thoroughly enjoyed the series. I’ve got nothing against watching batsmen struggle as an old bowler.

CA on the other hand, and the grounds themselves, would very obviously have preferred all the games to run out to the bitter end. Having said that, the revenue was maximised by the 2/3 days being weekends/public holidays mostly. Swings/roundabouts.

The Gabba was probably the best deck of the season, beaten by the weather. It usually is the best pitch in Australia in terms of balance between bat and ball.