Autopsy AFL 2020 Round 7 - Cats v Magpies Thurs July 16th 8:10pm AEST (Optus) (Video highlights in OP)

[PhatBoy]

Then the contest wasn't even then was it.

In winning it initially it was. It’s one thing to win it, another thing to retain it at the next exchange

 

[PieLebo87]

Just Collingwood getting more frees than their opponents over the last 8 years or so but unfortunately it has resulted in 0 premierships.

+2 free kick differential per game. Riverting stuff, please tell us more.

 

[Reg Grundy35]

Lol wtf are you even talking about now?

Donald Trump school of statistics I think

 

[Reg Grundy35]

No-one needs free kick count to be even, just interpretations to be even. They weren’t and the unusual thing was, it happened for the whole night - these things normally even out; it didn’t and stood out like dog’s balls

do you lot ever lose with class?

 

[Carringbush2010]

In winning it initially it was. It’s one thing to win it, another thing to retain it at the next exchange

As you quoted earlier, the Pies were cleaner with ball in hand in close - so not even.

 

[Grrr]

As you quoted earlier, the Pies were cleaner with ball in hand in close - so not even.

Cleaner with the 2 handed dish offs, indeed they were.

 

[Billys Back]

Pies always in control of this game.
Cats just look old and slow.
Always bitching about the umpires, but the fact is the better team on the night tends to win more frees because they go in harder, tackle harder and make a general play for the ball better.

The Cats rely on 2-3 ageing players to drag them through a game. So many passengers. Very little young talent.

 

[Billys Back]

Surely even Collingwood supporters hate watching their own team at this point? Nathan Buckley has turned you guys into a more boring side than Ross Lyons Freo. Get an early lead then just sit there and strangle the opposition into submission. Is winning football worth it if it’s destroying the image of the game overall?

or given the odd season, get a winning lead and put the cue in the rack to preserve the players.

 

[OniAu]

Pies always in control of this game.
Cats just look old and slow.
Always bitching about the umpires, but the fact is the better team on the night tends to win more frees because they go in harder, tackle harder and make a general play for the ball better.

The Cats rely on 2-3 ageing players to drag them through a game. So many passengers. Very little young talent.

will be bottom 4 in a few years time. Invested so much in older players to get a flag

 

[Carringbush2010]

Cleaner with the 2 handed dish offs, indeed they were.

Yep every single one a throw

 

[Grrr]

Yep every single one a throw

No not every one.

 

[Carringbush2010]

No not every one.

Correct maybe 1 or 2 at a stretch, never happened before.

 

[Grrr]

Correct maybe 1 or 2 at a stretch, never happened before.

I noticed it with Treloar last year, and I noticed it again in the first half against Geelong. I think the quick release is something they have worked on because it buys you time. The amount of times Collingwood players got the ball off their toes to a team mate with a quick two handed handball, which pushed the boundaries of what is a throw or not was amazing. It was wet, so the umps lets it go, but as a neutral and I have no barrow to push against Collingwood, it was very obvious. But if the umps are not calling it, it's fair enough. I have a problem with the rules, not Collingwood.

 

[Carringbush2010]

I noticed it with Treloar last year, and I noticed it again in the first half against Geelong. I think the quick release is something they have worked on because it buys you time. The amount of times Collingwood players got the ball off their toes to a team mate with a quick two handed handball, which pushed the boundaries of what is a throw or not was amazing. It was wet, so the umps lets it go, but as a neutral and I have no barrow to push against Collingwood, it was very obvious. But if the umps are not calling it, it's fair enough. I have a problem with the rules, not Collingwood.

Fair enough, I know what you mean by borderline handball and to be honest I've seen all teams do it. It's a hard one to adjudicate because it only needs to be a brush of 'punching' hand for it to be legal - pretty hard to call some of those as incorrect disposals.

 

[Grrr]

Fair enough, I know what you mean by borderline handball and to be honest I've seen all teams do it. It's a hard one to adjudicate because it only needs to be a brush of 'punching' hand for it to be legal - pretty hard to call some of those as incorrect disposals.

Think they could clamp down because many of those down low two handed handpasses are more like rugby passes that football and even 5 years ago would have been called throws, 20 years ago, most of them would. A legal handball is generally when the bottom hand doesn't move ala Greg Williams style.

 

[Carringbush2010]

Think they could clamp down because many of those down low two handed handpasses are more like rugby passes that football and even 5 years ago would have been called throws, 20 years ago, most of them would. A legal handball is generally when the bottom hand doesn't move ala Greg Williams style.

With the speed of the game, especially in close and speed of the ball it's going to be almost impossible for the ump to know 100% if it is / was illegal so my guess is 'benefit of the doubt'.

But there are ones that are so obvious it's not funny that aren't being called, whether or not the umps blindsided to it or just didn't see em I don't know. I do know that there's not many obvious ones - hardly any. Maybe one or two every now and then like your Treloar example.

 

[ToreadorMarch]

do you lot ever lose with class?

See you guys had a lot of class against West Coast - gutsy. Free kicks were even in that one too