Autopsy AFL 2023 Round 20 - Collingwood v Carlton Fri July 28th 7:50pm EST (MCG)

[Coolangatta]

After what Carlton has done this last fortnight, imagine if they beat the Saints, needing to only win one more game to make finals, but they lose to Melbourne and Gold Coast, so it comes down to the Giants game and they lose… by a kick. BigFooty would go into meltdown.

 

[Cripps 'n' Blue Bloods]

I suggest that you're not having this run without that capitulation

Fair chance, but assuming we did and at least split the games where we went 8 losses from 9 games (I think that's what it was), and go conservative and say 4 wins, 5 losses in those games, that's an extra 3 wins and puts us clear 3rd by half a game.

 

[Cripps 'n' Blue Bloods]

After what Carlton has done this last fortnight, imagine if they beat the Saints, needing to only win one more game to make finals, but they lose to Melbourne and Gold Coast, so it comes down to the Giants game and they lose… by a kick. BigFooty would go into meltdown.

That's a lot of imagining. I might just wait and see what happens.

 

[Corn Cobbers]

Fair chance, but assuming we did and at least split the games where we went 8 losses from 9 games (I think that's what it was), and go conservative and say 4 wins, 5 losses in those games, that's an extra 3 wins and puts us clear 3rd by half a game.

I thought it all started with the Torquay trip, would that have happened without the run of losses?

 

[Cripps 'n' Blue Bloods]

I thought it all started with the Torquay trip, would that have happened without the run of losses?

Certainly coincides. Debatable how much they got out of it and how much it contributed to it.

 

[Blues90]

All the losers sooking about charlie getting free kicks go back and tell me with photos that they weren't there every one but the high free kick was there... Collingwood were getting free kicks down field all night for falling over like the little blowses they are

 

[Blues90]

However I don't believe Collingwood were at their best tonight but no excuses when they were playing half the blues vfl midfield by half time. Why the hell is Taylor Adams

3

Taylor Adams

Age

30

Ht

181cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

24.9

5star

K

13.5

5star

HB

11.4

5star

M

4.0

4star

T

4.8

5star

CL

5.0

5star

D

20.4

5star

K

12.4

5star

HB

8.0

4star

M

4.0

4star

T

5.9

5star

CL

5.9

5star

D

18.2

5star

K

11.0

4star

HB

7.2

5star

M

4.4

4star

T

3.0

5star

CL

2.2

4star

giving up midfield minutes when his your best mid that's not N Daicos.

 

[PieLebo87]

That acknowledgement must have been in a different post, because it wasn't in the one I quoted.
How was it deceitful? Let's see... only mentioning positive stats while ignoring the negative? I just completed the picture.
28 disposals is nice... 54% not so much.
Highlighting clearances and tackles while ignoring inside 50s and marks. I just completed the picture.
It WAS an horrific game. Maybe that's a by-product of setting some ridiculously high standards (Walsh had a similar problem in his first couple years).

Imagine being a Collingwood supporter and trying to randomly bring racism into the conversation to support your cause...

Get off it. Cerra was BOG before pinging his hammy and he was going at 65%. Acres was your best midfielder in the second half and he went at 65%. Stop acting like Daicos was atrocious tonight. You’re talking about a second year player. What is it exactly you expect of him if you were to call his game average or good?

He played mainly inside, that’s why he had our highest contested possession numbers. Crippa gets criticised constantly for his DE when it’s completely natural for the inside mids to have lower DE%s.

What’s sad is you guys won and you’re sitting here trying to pot a second year player who was close to our best for the whole game. He actually did well considering his quiet first half, which is a credit to the kid.

 

[The Fantom]

One thing that was gloriously obvious was how hard Collingwood came out tonight.

When we put the pressure on they melted.

They’re not that good.

 

[Worm4]

Get off it. Cerra was BOG before pinging his hammy and he was going at 65%. Acres was your best midfielder in the second half and he went at 65%. Stop acting like Daicos was atrocious tonight. You’re talking about a second year player. What is it exactly you expect of him if you were to call his game average or good?

He played mainly inside, that’s why he had our highest contested possession numbers. Crippa gets criticised constantly for his DE when it’s completely natural for the inside mids to have lower DE%s.

What’s sad is you guys won and you’re sitting here trying to pot a second year player who was close to our best for the whole game. He actually did well considering his quiet first half, which is a credit to the kid.

What was obvious last night was that he was avoiding any loose balls where collision was going to occur. He will learn from that.
Thought Josh was actually collingwoods best last night.
What Carlton did well was keeping the ball away from Quaynor and making Moore accountable.

 

[smit_is]

Quick scan of this thread and it would seem a home and away win against Collingwood in 2023 could possibly be THE highlight thus far of Carlton's 21st century.

Wowee.

Dear Fadge,

Get a dog up ya!

Sincerely,

One happy Bliues supporter.

 

[Elmer_Hauser]

Collingwood and neutral supporters complaining about the frees paid to Charlie in the final quarter have clearly forgotten about the umpiring bias in the first half, (esp the first quarter) which was as infuriatingly lop sided and biased as I have seen.

Swings and Roundabouts.

Definitely not writing the Pies off, still flag favourites for mine and they were probably overdue for a loss, but still a very worthy and earned win by us, especially after losing Cerra with a hammy after being BOG up until that point.

 

[South of the Yarra]

Typical of Collingwood fans to boo Martin. They'll say it was for the "soft" free but we all know why

Are you suggesting he was being booed because he is Aboriginal?

 

[Opium]

Your on track in 2023 to follow the Bulldogs 2016 form. Leading the leagues freekick count and goals from freekicks. i dare say it wont be long when a thread is launched to discuss your arm chair ride to a fairytale flag.

We smashed you by 50 points. We started your losing streak. Enjoy

 

[lilJeffyG]

If any Lions youngster had 28, 1 short of the match high 7 clearances, a game high 9 score involvements and laid 6 tackles, you’d be all over the Rising Star thread nominating him as the winner for this week. Stop talking smack and go to sleep

Left a chip on the ground for him after the match. SEAGULL.

 

[Shinboner '07]

#FREEKICKCURNOW

Umps definitely got money on him for the Coleman

 

[Worm4]

There is a huge amount of salt in this room.
Better side ON THE NIGHT won the game.
Nothing about Collingwoods gifted free kicks in the first half , that's been quickly forgotten on the back of Curnows 6 goal effort.
Fact is , he is just a smart forward and knows how to position himself when plying his craft. It's not his fault Cox had his arms around curnows next in a ruck contest , and its certainly not his fault when Moore decides to pull his arm and restrict his run at the ball.
Perhaps centre your frustration on those 2 dummies .

 

[Robertio]

Carltons bottom six easily better than the Pies bottom six.

 

[Fadge]

So we wake up the morning after and it's exactly as expected.

Disappointed with the loss but our hard work has been done and we remain at least a game and percentage on top of the ladder.

Meanwhile, you'd think Carlton had won the flag or eliminated Collingwood from the finals series the way some of the Carlton folk are carrying on.

But I guess it is their biggest win in two decades.

 

[smit_is]

Nothing in it…
Gifting him goals…
Umps got money on him for Coleman….

#FREEKICKCURNOW

 

[OnceWeWereKings]

Get off it. Cerra was BOG before pinging his hammy and he was going at 65%. Acres was your best midfielder in the second half and he went at 65%. Stop acting like Daicos was atrocious tonight. You’re talking about a second year player. What is it exactly you expect of him if you were to call his game average or good?

He played mainly inside, that’s why he had our highest contested possession numbers. Crippa gets criticised constantly for his DE when it’s completely natural for the inside mids to have lower DE%s.

What’s sad is you guys won and you’re sitting here trying to pot a second year player who was close to our best for the whole game. He actually did well considering his quiet first half, which is a credit to the kid.

If that’s his inside game he needs to get back on the one / two handball receive game that he has dominated.
Got smashed up tonight by some inside monsters. To be expected at this stage.
Don’t think he has a natural instinct to “go and get it” at this point of his career.
Going to be interesting to see how this part of his game develops as he gets his body hard over the next couple of pre-seasons.
Aside from that “real thirst for the contest” at this point has all the tools to become a generational talent.

 

[ZabsBlues]

Point out which frees weren't there.
Bet you won't/can't.

So we wake up the morning after and it's exactly as expected.

Disappointed with the loss but our hard work has been done and we remain at least a game and percentage on top of the ladder.

Meanwhile, you'd think Carlton had won the flag or eliminated Collingwood from the finals series the way some of the Carlton folk are carrying on.

But I guess it is their biggest win in two decades.

Translation: still salty.

 

[OnceWeWereKings]

So we wake up the morning after and it's exactly as expected.

Disappointed with the loss but our hard work has been done and we remain at least a game and percentage on top of the ladder.

Meanwhile, you'd think Carlton had won the flag or eliminated Collingwood from the finals series the way some of the Carlton folk are carrying on.

But I guess it is their biggest win in two decades.

Can you smell it??

 

[ZabsBlues]

Nothing in it…
Gifting him goals…
# FreeKickCurnow…
Umps got money on him for Coleman….

F$&k them, let ‘em whinge every free kick to Charlie was there and still some weren’t pay to him.

 

[Hippster]

So we wake up the morning after and it's exactly as expected.

Disappointed with the loss but our hard work has been done and we remain at least a game and percentage on top of the ladder.

Meanwhile, you'd think Carlton had won the flag or eliminated Collingwood from the finals series the way some of the Carlton folk are carrying on.

But I guess it is their biggest win in two decades.

You just keeping repeating yourself. You do realise your team has won like 2 flags in 60 odd years. And have achieved zero in recent times other than some great home and away wins. A bit like StKildas DVD of the ‘winning streak’
Collingwood trolling other teams makes no sense.