Autopsy AFL 2024 Round 20 - Blues v Port Fri July 26th 7:40pm AEST (Marvel)

Who will win and by how much?

  • Blues by a goal or less

    Votes: 6 6.8%
  • Port by a goal or less

    Votes: 3 3.4%
  • Blues by 7 - 20

    Votes: 27 30.7%
  • Port by 7 - 20

    Votes: 30 34.1%
  • Blues by a lot

    Votes: 11 12.5%
  • Port by a lot

    Votes: 8 9.1%
  • Draw

    Votes: 3 3.4%

  • Total voters
    88
  • Poll closed .

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Can anyone give a neutral view on how the game played out? Genuinely interested in this game but missed it due to other commitments.

Scrappy game with poor skills and execution.

Port started well but the umps rose to the occasion in the 2nd quarter giving Carlton all the momentum.

Then apparently, Carlton were tired in the second half from a 5 day break and earning 0 frequent flyer points from the last 3 weeks.

Meanwhile Port used their 21 hour rest advantage to take control of the game.
 

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As far as I can tell, Carlton are the only team to be scheduled for a 5 day break all season outside of Thursday matches (where it is unavoidable). The only other scheduled instance is the Bulldogs next Friday (vs Melbourne). Obviously a bit of bad luck this time around to have 4 injuries last week and one in the first quarter tonight too.

It's also Carlton's only 5 day break of the year though, and both games were in Melbourne. Brisbane played off a 5 day break and had to travel for the second game.

EDIT: was basing it off the AFL website and it's Carlton's second 5 day break. Regardless, Carlton aren't the only team to have multiple 5 day breaks.
 
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Can anyone give a neutral view on how the game played out? Genuinely interested in this game but missed it due to other commitments.
Low scoring 1st qtr, Port by 4pts.
Blues blow game open by 31pts off the back of 10-1 free kick advantage in 2nd qtr, Port goal late to cut margin to 25pts.
Tight first 15 mins of 3rd qtr before Port pile on 4-1 goals, free count closes slightly.
Blues go goalless in 4th, Port kick on and win by 14pts.

Results show Blues only won 3 stats for the game, time in front, contested possessions, free kicks.

Commentators cant count, Port played last Saturday night, Blues played Sunday arvo but apparently thats a 7 day break for Port and 5 day break to Blues.
 
Can anyone give a neutral view on how the game played out? Genuinely interested in this game but missed it due to other commitments.

Carlton kicked 7.2 in the second quarter and 2.9 in the other three quarters. First quarter was tight and low scoring. Port comfortably won the second half and should've won by more. They missed some easy chances (hit the post 4 times) as reflected by the expected score which had a 32 point margin Port's way.
 
Carlton kicked 7.2 in the second quarter and 2.9 in the other three quarters. First quarter was tight and low scoring. Port comfortably won the second half and should've won by more. They missed some easy chances (hit the post 4 times) as reflected by the expected score which had a 32 point margin Port's way.
Yeah Port missed some sitters and we didn’t have any competitors forward of the footy

Can’t lose McKay and TDK and become uncompetitive when we’ve Curnow down there

Just needed someone to compete inside 50 and to hold marks or kill the ball in D50

Port deserved winners
 
Like you guys when you tagged Mitchell in a GF and sprayed set shot after set shot hahahaha

Well having Fyfe kicking at goal was a bit of an issue the bloke would miss from 10m
 
Yeah Port missed some sitters and we didn’t have any competitors forward of the footy

Can’t lose McKay and TDK and become uncompetitive when we’ve Curnow down there

Just needed someone to compete inside 50 and to hold marks or kill the ball in D50

Port deserved winners

Yeah, it was Curnow or bust up forward. Took Port a half, but they realised they could just double team Curnow and Carlton would still kick it that way.

Didn't help that all of Carlton's quick ball inside 50 disappeared in the second half too. Curnow was having to come up to the middle to get the ball, but had no one to kick it to.
 

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We played Sydney off a 5 day break with travel, cry me a river with the excuses

Yes and it was North! Come off it if you are too 2-3 you can rest players against them and still win
 
Yeah, it was Curnow or bust up forward. Took Port a half, but they realised they could just double team Curnow and Carlton would still kick it that way.

Didn't help that all of Carlton's quick ball inside 50 disappeared in the second half too. Curnow was having to come up to the middle to get the ball, but had no one to kick it to.

They were getting trounced in clearances and left Kennedy forward. Was a horrid coaching decision
 
They were getting trounced in clearances and left Kennedy forward. Was a horrid coaching decision

Love him as a player for obvious reasons, but don't think Voss is a good game day coach.

Thought dropping the Cincotta tag on Butters was an interesting decision. Cincotta was in the back pocket for a large part of the last quarter instead of on one of several dangerous Port mids.
 
Yeah, it was Curnow or bust up forward. Took Port a half, but they realised they could just double team Curnow and Carlton would still kick it that way.

Didn't help that all of Carlton's quick ball inside 50 disappeared in the second half too. Curnow was having to come up to the middle to get the ball, but had no one to kick it to.

They were getting trounced in clearances and left Kennedy forward. Was a horrid coaching decision

Love him as a player for obvious reasons, but don't think Voss is a good game day coach
Cerra in the back pocket too

He’s a great strategist but there is a bit to be desired on game day when it doesn’t fall our way

I was never bullish on us as a genuine contender so I’m not disappointed but it is frustrating to see the dependence on talent not system
 
Imagine, if only you had that 1 more day break, you'd win!

Only, football results don't work that way. No mention of this being Carltons 3rd loss from 4 attempts. Outclassed on your own deck to a travelling team.
It's not just the one day in isolation.
We're already a slowish team. Take out TDK and replace him with Pitto. Take out Acres, who runs both ways all game. Take out McKay (a Coleman winner) who is quite attacking and plays well up the ground and replace him with Young, who has barely played, is a defender and stifles our attack when he has the ball in hand. Take out another runner in Cuningham in the 1st quarter and replace him with another big bodied mid who's played 18 games.

No Blues supporters will shy away from our recent form. We're 2 from 5, the same as the Swans.
 
Cerra in the back pocket too

He’s a great strategist but there is a bit to be desired on game day when it doesn’t fall our way

I was never bullish on us as a genuine contender so I’m not disappointed but it is frustrating to see the dependence on talent not system

Don’t even get the Cerra thing all year let’s not pretend he’s some elite kick. Ollie Hollands surely needs a spell too
 
Don’t even get the Cerra thing all year let’s not pretend he’s some elite kick. Ollie Hollands surely needs a spell too
Ollie has been OK but agree he needs a spell, just a young player

His brother was the same early on

Binns had like 47 and 3 and didn’t get selected, surely you reward that performance and give him a crack with Acres out

Bang on with Cerra, he’s also uncompetitive aerially - needs to play on ball or not at all really
 
Was an easy call. We went too hard in the first. Lost a runner early for another inside mid.
No tactical sub and no petrol tickets left.
Always thought we'd drop one of Port or Pies games, so just need to make sure we win the Pies one now.
My ladder predictor for the past few weeks has had us finishing 3rd, with Lions moving to 2nd.
Winning against Port and Pies was the only way of keeping 2nd IMO, unless some other results go our way.
Is what it is. Been fun carrying on about the umps though.
Losing runners, 5 day breaks, no petrol tickets, no big H, no Sam Docherty this that and the other. It's never had anything to do with these things. I've mentioned it multiple times in blues threads before - simply put you guys do not have anything that resembles a sufficient gameplan, even when results go your way. It's either make it up as you go randomness, or most the time it just reverts to going down the line on the bench side of the ground, kick long and hope for the best. The last grade of footy that should be picking a specific side of the ground to predominantly play is under 14s level.

You guys are either coached poorly, or your players simply do not have the physical or mental ability to execute a plan. Or maybe it's a mixture of both. But it's plain as day obvious to see. Was the same 3 years ago and it's the same today, every time Carlton get the ball in their back half I genuinely have no idea what they're going to do with it in an attempt to move the ball up the ground. Every single elite team for as long as I can remember has always had a distinct pattern which they would execute to a high level. Carlton have 0 system or method. The other very obvious thing is you have a batch of around 10 players who choose to only get involved when you have momentum.

And I feel like the Carlton fanbase fails to grasp this because it's been so long since they've been good that they don't really know what a good system looks like.
 

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Autopsy AFL 2024 Round 20 - Blues v Port Fri July 26th 7:40pm AEST (Marvel)

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