Angus Graham to Adelaide

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Maric has the kind of effort and intensity levels that mean he's going to get the most out of himself, and goes a long way to somewhat cover a slightly lower level of natural talent that is possessed by other ruckman. Graham does not have this intensity.

Would love him to prove me wrong, but I don't see it happening.

not sure I agree, Maric had plenty of games where I thought the effort at the contest just wasn't there
 
What are his basic rucking skills like?

He's pretty good at getting his hand to it but not so great at placing it to advantage. I think Richmond were 17th for clearances (differential not total) in 2011.

I don't really know much about his vertical leap. I think it was OK but ever since Brendan Lade took over both Graham/Browne tended to stay down and rarely leaped at the ball. I'm not sure what the logic was there.
 

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nothing to be to upset about with this trade, gave up a nothing pick to get a nothing pick and a 200cm ruckmen in the event that, god forbid, anything happens to Jacobs. Lets no pretend we didn't all sit in the outer all year praying for no Rehnny type situations every time Sauce ran out. We're one injury away from being in real trouble. At 200cm he's at least a body that our midfield could work with in the event he's needed.

I still say the Maric saga was the biggest over reaction of all time, but we all have 20/20 vision now we see how the sub rule actually works.
 
Richmond supporters have also said he smashed it at VFL level last season, so he is clearly better than picking up a random state league ruckman, like headache1 suggested. There is a reason he is still on an AFL list and those guys aren't.
 
Also, for people to come out and call him an oxygen thief is pretty poor form. Call it a dud trade or call him a spud footballer if you must but to have a go at the bloke himself, when he's done us no wrong, is pretty disgusting.
 
If you are wondering what to expect with Angus, picture one of those wacky waving inflatable flailing arm tube men, and that is Gus to a tee. However with less strength and balance.

here he is during women appreciation round last season.

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edit: and there's Jake King front and square!
 
At least it means we get another Tassie guy on our list... Now we have two wooohoooo!!

I hope they come down here to play hawks this year ;)
 

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There is no reason that Graham can't get his career back on track.

Actually there is, and its name is Sauce. I seriously hope that Graham can have a real go, but even if he turns into an A-grader he'll suffer the same problems as Griffin - opportunities.
 
Well, it didnt cost us anything. Angus would be well aware that he is a backup, and maybe a change of scenery might bring out the better of him. I'm cool with this deal.
 
Ron the Bear

You guys must be shitting yourself with joy at the thought of getting rid of him.

In the woods of course. :)
it is Xmas At Richmond. Our present was getting rid of Graham. All tiger supporters should buy Crows memberships as a thank you....Ye..ha!
 
Have no problem whatsoever with this

He'll play games when Sauce is injured, or he might get a game when Sauce gets the "General" against a GC or GWS and needs a week off

We all saw how buggered he was towards the end of the H and A this year

It cost us nothing, he'll be on minimum wage and he's 200cm +
 
Not even trolling. I just don't understand why you have done what you have done. Some strange voodoo shit going on somewhere.
 
Richmond supporters have also said he smashed it at VFL level last season, so he is clearly better than picking up a random state league ruckman, like headache1 suggested. There is a reason he is still on an AFL list and those guys aren't.

thats the point sorely missed by most, good luck to him hope he makes most of second chance. he would have been best performed ruck at VFL this year...and guess where we and others will be looking for our reserve ruck option...I think your clubs rationale was ok
 
I was furious when I first heard about this trade, but the more I think about it, it starts to make some sense. He cost us basically nothing, and he's a backup and nothing more. The worst thing that can happen is that he gets delisted in 2 years. Big deal. A lot of people thought Leigh Brown was a spud, but after Collingwood traded for him he became important part of their premiership team.
 
Not even trolling. I just don't understand why you have done what you have done. Some strange voodoo shit going on somewhere.
We need a backup ruckman, albeit someone who is happy to spend most (if not all) of the season playing in the SANFL. They're not easy to come by. Most of them either aren't good enough (which is why they're already playing in the SANFL) or have delusions of grandeur (daring to dream of being 1st ruck and playing regular AFL football).

Graham comes to us on minimum wages and in the knowledge that he is nothing more than a "break glass in case of emergency" type player - should something happen to Jacobs.

We can't afford and don't need a high quality ruckman - Jacobs is capable of filling that role. We just need someone who is capable of doing the task to an adequate standard if our primary ruckman falls over. Graham fits the bill nicely.
 
I was furious when I first heard about this trade, but the more I think about it, it starts to make some sense. He cost us basically nothing, and he's a backup and nothing more. The worst thing that can happen is that he gets delisted in 2 years. Big deal. A lot of people thought Leigh Brown was a spud, but after Collingwood traded for him he became important part of their premiership team.
Same here. I've since had a chance to calm down and realised that the AFC have done a reasonable job of making a silk purse out of a sow's ear.
 
Who'll be better in 2013?

Angus Graham or Angus Monfries?

Beat me to it. Was just thinking the crows only traded him to out trade port in the Angus Stakes. Our Angus is taller than your Angus ....Suck on that one Port :)

He is a Crow now everyone so lets give him a big :thumbsu::thumbsu::thumbsu: and hope he does a good job.
 
Beat me to it. Was just thinking the crows only traded him to out trade port in the Angus Stakes. Our Angus is taller than your Angus ....Suck on that one Port :)

He is a Crow now everyone so lets give him a big :thumbsu::thumbsu::thumbsu: and hope he does a good job.

This - Lets get behind the big fella
 

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