Anthony Albanese - How long? -2-

[Kram]

"Labor, we are only almost as bad as the other lot!"

 

[peetoo]

Upgrades are funny…..often they happen as you check in out of the blue. Sorry I need to check with my director first

 

[peetoo]

I’m no huge fan of Labor these days and am disappointed Albanese hasn’t been bolder.

But right now I’m reading Jane R. Goodall’s “The Politics of the Common Good”, which was published in 2019 when the Coalition were at their malignant worst

And FMD, for all the dissatisfaction with Labor, we do not ever want to return to having those bastards in power.

I have been a lifelong supporter of workers’ rights but still it amazes even me how much the Tories and their press barrackers flooded the zone with anti-worker bile, and managed to get the discussion totally focused on the wants of employers and industry groups.

They were truly dreadful times and it’s such a relief they finally got the boot before they totally destroyed the Australian sense of community and common wealth.

Albanese Labor raises plenty of questions but the Coalition is the answer to none of them. Not one.

Albo govt has had a massive increase in corporate tax compliance this year. Sometimes good govt isn’t trigger worthy

As immigration and everything supreme Dutton talked a big game but an entire sex slave op set up under his watch by an immigrant king pin who had a long rap sheet in multiple countries

 

[HairyO]

The juvenile binary 'cheerleading' comments is to be expected in these threads, but means absolutely nothing - especially coming from those who are team supporters themselves and seemingly unable to focus on the principles at issue.

I've made my position on this issue pretty clear. That accepting free membership of an elite club from a private company is unacceptable for politicians or public servants. The same can be said of free tickets or upgrades. It is especially true for Prime Ministers, Ministers and MPs/Senators whose role is to vote on legislation and make decisions in the public interest. Simply declaring such gifts and transactions after the event is nowhere near good enough.

As the Centre for Public Integrity chairman Anthony Whealy, KC, a former judge, said the close relationships between government and corporate leaders was a significantly flawed part of Australia’s democracy.

“It runs both ways. You have big money seeking to associate with the prime minister and senior ministers and then in return you see the prime minister and senior ministers looking for favours with big money,” Whealy said.
“It represents a significant failure of our democratic systems, and we need to fix it fast.”

"It's not corrupt but its corrupt-ing", he says, adding that all such favours will eventually be "called in". "Why else do they do it?"

Centre for Public Integrity senior counsel Geoffrey Watson said Albanese’s relationship with the former Qantas CEO was worse than a bad look: “This is the kind of thing which in some circumstances can be interpreted as corruption.”

But the sentiments are not just targeted at Albanese and the Government but for ALL politicians and bureaucrats at the Federal, State and Local levels. So while I've been highly critical of the revelations and subsequent comments of the PM in trying to wave this issue away as being a non-issue, I laugh at the hypocrisy of Dutton and other LNP members in using it as a partisan political attack when his own acceptance of corporate largesse has been so well documented. If Dutton et al are serious then they should stand with Independent Senator David Pocock in introducing legislation/regulations eliminating these rorts for ALL public representatives. But that won't happen.

Yep, everyone should declare everything, down to the dollar - and if you are caught out you are kicked out and can try again next election. It is beyond ridiculous the level of corruption which is just simply ignored.

Stop accepting free crap and pay for it yourself, or your party can pay for it. And they should declare every dollar they receive as well.

I'd be fired if I did any of this even just once, but in a week no-one will care that PMs, Opposition leaders, and those under them do this so often they cant keep track of it all.

 

[peetoo]

Funny thing is, if Albo did resign there’d be up to a half dozen capable candidates to chose from

The libs have Dutton becaus…….I was going to say who else is there, but Dutton is barely acceptable

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

Funny thing is, if Albo did resign there’d be up to a half dozen capable candidates to chose from

The libs have Dutton becaus…….I was going to say who else is there, but Dutton is barely acceptable

Bottom of barrel is well and truly scraped for the Libs. Hard to even see anyone on the horizon for the next generation.

 

[FlowersByIrene]

Upgrades are funny…..often they happen as you check in out of the blue. Sorry I need to check with my director first

Yeah they happen out of the blue, after you call up and ask Qantas to give them to you as a bribe....

Albanese's example is completely different to your everyday upgrade and the upgrades that other politicians, business persons or other powerful people may receive.

 

[peetoo]

Yeah they happen out of the blue, after you call up and ask Qantas to give them to you as a bribe....

Albanese's example is completely different to your everyday upgrade and the upgrades that other politicians, business persons or other powerful people may receive.

He denies it, so who has the onus to prove? Him or the accuser?

 

[AlwaysHawks15]

no one cares that albo was getting upgrades and going business or first class. as a senior minister you would expect nothing less.

the main issue is reaching out to get chairman's lounge access for his son - and liaising directly with the CEO.

if this is proven he has to go.

There's no evidence it actually did occur from what we're hearing. All hearsay from the bloke writing the book. Need more sources to confirm all this otherwise it's just allegations right now. Of course with the Murdoch rags it doesn't matter your guilty unless you prove your innocent that is of course if your a leftie.

 

[AlwaysHawks15]

Well, they still changed the Stage 3 tax cuts so that it didn't just all go to the top 20%. So not 100% charlatans.

You're still arguiing essentially that they're "as bad as the Libs". So it wouldn't make sense for them to resign and hand it over to the Libs just because they're as corrupt as them (and they're still not that corrupt - Angus's water, Barnaby's envoy, sports rorts, airport land, robodebt).

He's arguing the Libs are complete cleanskins mate. Head is in the sand because it's been buried under Mounds of Trump rhetoric. If your starting base for an argument is " Our side never engage in this" than you have already lost. But good luck trying to convince him of that.

 

[peetoo]

There's no evidence it actually did occur from what we're hearing. All hearsay from the bloke writing the book. Need more sources to confirm all this otherwise it's just allegations right now. Of course with the Murdoch rags it doesn't matter your guilty unless you prove your innocent that is of course if your a leftie.

Guy should join the Harry and meghan pile on it’s more his style