Anthony Albanese - How long? -2-

[Carn The Berries]

Point taken - the RBA won't be persuaded by it. I'll take it though. Granted, my wallet definitely gives a shit what interest rates are doing.

Absolutely agree that it will help with the hip pocket. Any material impact on underlying inflation is absolute smoke and mirrors IMHO.

I also think it should have been means tested somehow (I don't actually know the mechanics of how that could have worked). My first discount came through in our last bill... I certainly don't need it (not that I'm giving it back any time soon).

 

[AlwaysHawks15]

Albanese simply has to resign. He is the perfect example of why the left (at least in the form it is embodied practically in Australia) cannot be allowed to govern. Everyone of them is inherently corrupt and a thief - it is in their values. They value taking wealth and power from others. None of them have ever worked a real day in their life, bumping around Labor sponsored organisation to Labor sponsored organisation. They don't know the value of work, they only know how to steal, how to exploit others. They will all eventually fall to the basement of their principles - theft. Albanese will go down as one of the worst Prime Ministers in history and all Labor supporters should be ashamed of what their vote supports.

What an extraordinarily ignorant statement. It's like you only look at 1 side of the spectrum exclusively. Either that or your working for Peter Dutton. I've seen your comments regarding Trump too so there is a common theme at play. Conservative to the core no matter what failings they are a part of you will absolve them of any accountability.and than blame the left. You take your posts seriously too almost like only you know the facts of every issue. I'll recognise it's a terrible look for Albo what's been discovered but I just know if the shoe was on the other foot you would find a way to blame the left. Stick to the Donald Trump forum and post your love and admiration in there.

 

[Pie eyed]

Apparently it's normal interstate but I cannot believe people are buying 40, 50+ year old houses now at extortionate prices without building inspections. Speaks to people's desperation to forgo that

Required if you have a mortgage lender and insane of you're paying cash.

 

[Kram]

Victoria's is up to 4.5% and there'll be a bunch of redundancies (or lost jobs) in the construction industry between now and February. Wouldn't be surprised to see it hit 5% in February.

It's not that Albo should resign or that he's any worse than the previous Govt. It's that he's shown himself to be just as bad as the opposition and happy to hang his hat on that.

It's like with the NACC. He wants kudos for setting it up, but the thing has turned out to be useless and he's still pretending like it isn't. And now he looks more like an LNP pollie who talks about corruption but does nothing about it and is quite happy to part-take actually.

How is this Government different to the last on corruption or whistle-blowers?

Before the election they said they'd be different, which influenced my vote, but now it turns out they're actually not any different, just blow-hards.

Whilst still pretty good there is definitely cracks appearing the wa job market imo, mining apart from gold going nuts has also come off significantly.

People think things are challenging now with the cost of living and interest rates it's nothing compared to when people are out of work.

 

[Saint]

Whilst still pretty good there is definitely crack appearing the wa job market imo, mining apart from gold going nuts has also come off significantly.

People think things are challenging now with the cost of living and interest rates it's nothing compared to when people are out of work.

Yes, if you turn unemployment up by half a percent, it's going to be a much bigger problem than inflation.

 

[Pie eyed]

Albanese simply has to resign. He is the perfect example of why the left (at least in the form it is embodied practically in Australia) cannot be allowed to govern. Everyone of them is inherently corrupt and a thief - it is in their values. They value taking wealth and power from others. None of them have ever worked a real day in their life, bumping around Labor sponsored organisation to Labor sponsored organisation. They don't know the value of work, they only know how to steal, how to exploit others. They will all eventually fall to the basement of their principles - theft. Albanese will go down as one of the worst Prime Ministers in history and all Labor supporters should be ashamed of what their vote supports.

What a ****ing load of shit.

 

[FlowersByIrene]

What a ****ing load of shit.

It's noticeable that none of the disagreement with my post is based on any principle, evidence or argument - just disagreement for the sake of disagreement. It is no surprise that the supporters of Albanese and his cronies have just as little moral fiber as he does.

 

[Pie eyed]

you dickheads are not worth the type.
campaigner.

 

[AlwaysHawks15]

What a ****ing load of shit.

Don't bait him he's a Lib troll. They can't do no wrong and are like Teflon. Murdoch makes it so. Full of glass jaws though when made to feel uncomfortable.

 

[FlowersByIrene]

Don't bait him he's a Lib troll. They can't do no wrong and are like Teflon. Murdoch makes it so. Full of glass jaws though when made to feel uncomfortable.

Glass jaws lol. What are you going to do, punch me?

What are you, a CMFEU rep?

 

[AlwaysHawks15]

It's noticeable that none of the disagreement with my post is based on any principle, evidence or argument - just disagreement for the sake of disagreement. It is no surprise that the supporters of Albanese and his cronies have just as little moral fiber as he does.

There's literally a shitload of evidence except it's on a colour coded spreadsheet in landfill. Robodebt had nothing to do with theft and unethical behaviour apparently all good governance. And that was all within a couple of years. You know all this of course but for the sake of your beliefs you want to talk shit because you get a kick out of baiting lefties. Typical MAGA.

 

[FlowersByIrene]

There's literally a shitload of evidence except it's on a colour coded spreadsheet in landfill. Robodebt had nothing to do with theft and unethical behaviour apparently all good governance. And that was all within a couple of years. You know all this of course but for the sake of your beliefs you want to talk shit because you get a kick out of baiting lefties. Typical MAGA.

I am a huge opponent of Robotdebt, think the Liberal party completely ****ed the Covid response and allowed the States to implement fascism and am not a Dutton supporter. Didn't think I needed to state those things in a thread that is about Albanese.

I know it may be hard for you to imagine someone else can be independent and rational in matters of politics when you clearly can't be, but any criticism of Albanese and the modern Labor party comes purely, and absolutely, from a well established and non-hyprocritical basis of values, principles and reasoning. All of which can only lead to the conclusion that Alabanese is a wretched man, who has exploited the tax payer his entire life and lives only to enrich himself.

 

[AlwaysHawks15]

Glass jaws lol. What are you going to do, punch me?

What are you, a CMFEU rep?

Lol

I am a huge opponent of Robotdebt, think the Liberal party completely ****ed the Covid response and allowed the States to implement fascism and am not a Dutton supporter. Didn't think I needed to state those things in a thread that is about Albanese.

I know it may be hard for you to imagine someone else can be independent and rational in matters of politics when you clearly can't be, but any criticism of Albanese and the modern Labor party comes purely, and absolutely, from a well established and non-hyprocritical basis of values, principles and reasoning. All of which can only lead to the conclusion that Alabanese is a wretched man, who has exploited the tax payer his entire life and lives only to enrich himself.

Yeah non hypocritical. Did you ask for Scomo's resignation with the multiple stuff ups at the taxpayers expense that occured? Or is it just related to Albo? Fascism? Absolute , This is straight out of the right wing playbook. Don't pretend like your impartial. My issue isn't with holding Albo to account it's the double speak and standards being applied, nonsense arguments like only 1 side do stuff like this their all thief's etc, pure garbage and you know it. But again you support Donald Trump so you can't expect rational debate

 

[Ghost Patrol]

Full of glass jaws though when made to feel uncomfortable.

Can confirm.

 

[Rotayjay]

Whilst still pretty good there is definitely cracks appearing the wa job market imo, mining apart from gold going nuts has also come off significantly.

People think things are challenging now with the cost of living and interest rates it's nothing compared to when people are out of work.

It's one thing to have your mortgage repayments double, Woolies taking you for a ride while getting little to no pay rise. It's quite another when you have to deal with those same cost pressures without a job.

 

[checkraiseulite]

no one cares that albo was getting upgrades and going business or first class. as a senior minister you would expect nothing less.

the main issue is reaching out to get chairman's lounge access for his son - and liaising directly with the CEO.

if this is proven he has to go.

 

[Festerz]

Digging around, it seems to be a lot of flight upgrades, presumably to Business Class or better. So we're not talking a couple of hundred bucks, we're talking $10,000 plus given as a gift after they'd already booked flights.

At the very least it should have meant he had to exclude himself from any involvement in decisions which affect Qantas.

Just like NACC is now dealing with Brereton refusing to remove himself from the Robodebt decision about his old friend Kathryn Campbell. Now an investigation says it has to be done all over again without his interference. But now the final answer is pre-determined because the legal profession always look after their own.

No chance of the NACC looking into the Chairmans Lounge and free upgrades issue. None. One reason...



What I would like to see is an aggregated listing of politicians and public officials at all levels of government who have been provided with these benefits from Qantas and other airlines.. Because this ain't just about Albo.

 

[Saint]

no one cares that albo was getting upgrades and going business or first class. as a senior minister you would expect nothing less.

the main issue is reaching out to get chairman's lounge access for his son - and liaising directly with the CEO.

if this is proven he has to go.

He doesnt "Have to go", I'm not exactly sure getting a ride from Joyce is any better than getting a ride from Reinhardt. (It's no different)

But neither are good.

It just means the ALP can't really campaign on corruption any more. And Albanese pretending he's a man of the people has been lost forever.

 

[Gralin]

No chance of the NACC looking into the Chairmans Lounge and free upgrades issue. None. One reason...



What I would like to see is an aggregated listing of politicians and public officials at all levels of government who have been provided with these benefits from Qantas and other airlines.. Because this ain't just about Albo.

Chairman's lounge is 100% one of those established dodgy things that workers would get fired for accepting under ethics and compliance rules and funnily enough executives don't get fired for

 

[1990crow]

Albanese simply has to resign. He is the perfect example of why the left (at least in the form it is embodied practically in Australia) cannot be allowed to govern. Everyone of them is inherently corrupt and a thief - it is in their values. They value taking wealth and power from others. None of them have ever worked a real day in their life, bumping around Labor sponsored organisation to Labor sponsored organisation. They don't know the value of work, they only know how to steal, how to exploit others. They will all eventually fall to the basement of their principles - theft. Albanese will go down as one of the worst Prime Ministers in history and all Labor supporters should be ashamed of what their vote supports.

Lol. Don't do drugs kids.

 

[Festerz]

Chairman's lounge is 100% one of those established dodgy things that workers would get fired for accepting under ethics and compliance rules and funnily enough executives don't get fired for

Exactly.

And, as reflected by those, including the NACC execs and board members who declare the membership but also put n/a in the monetary value column. It's a privilege to which they are entitled to from their perspective.

No monetary value despite the fact that a lowly Qantas Club membership costs the average Joe or his employer $700/yr and free one-time entry for those without a membership only provided with a Business or First ticket (or those able to acquire a single entry visitors pass - which sell for around $70 on ebay btw).

And yet the cost, in terms of office leasing charges, energy, equipment and staff costs etc. in providing the Chairmans Lounge to selected individuals most certainly comes at a cost - and a substantial one.

So rest assured, those on the Board of Qantas and other airlines and corporations who provide these benefits most definitely do place a commercial value on providing them against which those costs can be justified.

 

[Gralin]

Exactly.

And, as reflected by those, including the NACC execs and board members who declare the membership but also put n/a in the monetary value column. It's a privilege to which they are entitled to from their perspective.

No monetary value despite the fact that a lowly Qantas Club membership costs the average Joe or his employer $700/mth.

And yet the cost, in terms of office leasing charges, energy, equipment and staff costs etc. in providing the Chairmans Lounge to selected individuals most certainly comes at a cost - and a substantial one.

So rest assured, those on the Board of Qantas and other airlines and corporations who provide these benefits most definitely do place a commercial value on providing them against which those costs can be justified.

yeah its massive double standards as usual

fine for us not fine for you

 

[FlowersByIrene]

He doesnt "Have to go", I'm not exactly sure getting a ride from Joyce is any better than getting a ride from Reinhardt. (It's no different)

But neither are good.

It just means the ALP can't really campaign on corruption any more. And Albanese pretending he's a man of the people has been lost forever.

And campaigning on lies that Labor are anti-corruption and working class (both of which are clearly not true given Labor has a long track record of corruption and there is not a single Labor politician who has ever worked a day in their life) is the only thing Labor have going for them. Would love for the public to wake up one day and see that Labor are pure charlatans.

 

[Saint]

And campaigning on lies that Labor are anti-corruption and working class (both of which are clearly not true given Labor has a long track record of corruption and there is not a single Labor politician who has ever worked a day in their life) is the only thing Labor have going for them. Would love for the public to wake up one day and see that Labor are pure charlatans.

Well, they still changed the Stage 3 tax cuts so that it didn't just all go to the top 20%. So not 100% charlatans.

You're still arguiing essentially that they're "as bad as the Libs". So it wouldn't make sense for them to resign and hand it over to the Libs just because they're as corrupt as them (and they're still not that corrupt - Angus's water, Barnaby's envoy, sports rorts, airport land, robodebt).

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

I’m no huge fan of Labor these days and am disappointed Albanese hasn’t been bolder.

But right now I’m reading Jane R. Goodall’s “The Politics of the Common Good”, which was published in 2019 when the Coalition were at their malignant worst

And FMD, for all the dissatisfaction with Labor, we do not ever want to return to having those bastards in power.

I have been a lifelong supporter of workers’ rights but still it amazes even me how much the Tories and their press barrackers flooded the zone with anti-worker bile, and managed to get the discussion totally focused on the wants of employers and industry groups.

They were truly dreadful times and it’s such a relief they finally got the boot before they totally destroyed the Australian sense of community and common wealth.

Albanese Labor raises plenty of questions but the Coalition is the answer to none of them. Not one.