Bluemour Discussion Thread XII - Facts Not Welcome (cont in pt 13)

[Just Kreuzing]

Mcstop it

 

[VainGlorious]

Yes but only 19 now. What part of that do you not get?

I lolled



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[ESKIE]

McBluemours

 

[BringBackSimmo]

I understand how you feel, I'm Mcfused about what's happening.

Clearly not lovin' it?

 

[Just Kreuzing]

McFacts....

 

[TeeJay Blue]

Carlton just peeled off those Monopoly stickers, and won themselves Grigg and McAdam.

 

[ajb72]

Had a look at the last few drafts. Assuming mature age just means 19 or older in draft year:
2017 Tim Kelly #24
2016 Tim English #19
2015 Harry Himmelberg #16
2014 Jack Steele #24 (Blaine B #19)
2013 Sean Lemmens #27 (Rory Lobbe 29)

On average mature age player taken by pick 22?

And 2 low 20 picks got us Charlie just a few years ago.....

So for all the dummy spitting over not getting a PP, we may in effect get a value of around pick 11 from the 2 picks anyway.

 

[Siegfried]

GWS confirms Shiel meeting with Victorian clubs.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-09-26/shiel-meeting-with-vic-clubs-giants-confirm

 

[VainGlorious]

any chance of getting access back into the no discussion thread in case there is something in there I don't want to discuss?

I’ve got so many questions, want to discuss? But can’t :-(


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[BringBackSimmo]

GWS confirms Shiel meeting with Victorian clubs.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-09-26/shiel-meeting-with-vic-clubs-giants-confirm

That really doesn't tell us much at all.

 

[footyfan1978]

State league access.
I have my own rumour.
AFL making it up as going along and not even worked out details yet.
I looked on AFL site and my inbox for email from Carlton detailing how it works but nothing. Just headlines but no full details.

Do we get extra spots on primary list due to these two players?
Are these players not for primary list but added to rookie list in addition to rookie list players we will take later at rookie draft?
Can they be put on a two year contract and outside the salary cap ?
How long can they exist as extra players outside cap and normal primary list limits?

Or are they essentially taking our last two picks of national draft and giving us those picks before the national draft with restriction they must be mature aged state league players ?
What exactly is the cut off of age for these pre-listing access picks. Do they need to be older than 20 at 31st December this year? etc etc.
Details, I want details but can find nothing.
If we trade a pick or both do other clubs get them outside primary list too ?

 

[katmanblue]

Are we going to end up with a bunch of Mcs in our team.. McAdam, McHenry, Mc... ?

Need a McDonald's sponsorship

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[TeeJay Blue]

GWS confirms Shiel meeting with Victorian clubs.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-09-26/shiel-meeting-with-vic-clubs-giants-confirm

My planned reactions:

Carlton - 'YES!!!'

Hawthorn - 'Can't blame him'.

St. Kilda - 'Why?'

Essendon - '**** Off!'

 

[Just Kreuzing]

GWS confirms Shiel meeting with Victorian clubs.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-09-26/shiel-meeting-with-vic-clubs-giants-confirm

GWS release statement after EP called and inform them......

 

[Space Cadet]

And 2 low 20 picks got us Charlie just a few years ago.....

So for all the dummy spitting over not getting a PP, we may in effect get a value of around pick 11 from the 2 picks anyway.

Being conservative, say we get around pick 30 for each. That has to be at least as valuable as pick 19.
Imagine if we had #1 and 4 second rounders to play with.

 

[BringBackSimmo]

Details, I want details but can find nothing.

I don't think those details have been provided as yet.

 

[Pafloyul]

Yeah i'm not sure many mature aged players have gone much higher than that (Isaac Smith, 21 years old at Pick 19 is about the only one higher). So i guess you are talking a 2nd rounder at best.

Harry Taylor, pick 17.

 

[bendigoblues]

GWS release statement after EP called and inform them......

too late, didnt he announce he was coming to us yesterday......

 

[TeeJay Blue]

Are we going to end up with a bunch of Mcs in our team.. McAdam, McHenry, Mc... ?

McAdam, McHenry and McGovern to go with McKay and Big Mac down back.

Judging by the surnames alone, it's a nice touch of Scottish to the list if you ask me.

 

[ferrisb]

Holy shit, Im in the third place. Where's my trophy?

Go directly to addiction rehab.

Do not pass GO, do not collect $200

 

[footyfan1978]

I don't think those details have been provided as yet.

It is garbage how AFL not providing details. Sooner we get rid of Gilt the better for league as a whole.

 

[BringBackSimmo]

It is garbage how AFL not providing details. Sooner we get rid of Gilt the better for league as a whole.

They probably haven't provided the details because they haven't made them up yet.

 

[Soapy V]

So if I'm reading this right we are getting

Shiel OR Setterfield (Great)
McGovern (Good)
Fasolo (meh)
2 x Mature Players (Good)

 

[footyfan1978]

They probably haven't provided the details because they haven't made them up yet.

It is absolute bullshit how this works. So if feedback from other clubs is not like what little heard so far, AFL mould it to water down to least possible value to suit them. Great, love your work, Gil, you absolute manipulating ****wit

 

[footyfan1978]

So if I'm reading this right we are getting

2 x Mature Players (Good)

Define mature players. What is the details Soapy? How young can they be before being considered mature players ? Do we even know?