Rumour Bluemour Discussion thread

[Kramer1]

3m/5years would be a sensational result for Carlisle...just can't see it happening, WB's just makes too much sense.

 

[Jatz]

Imo jaksch has a Gunston like feel about him.

Gunston seems like a more natural footballer to me.

 

[Jatz]

3m/5years would be a sensational result for Carlisle...just can't see it happening, WB's just makes too much sense.

He was apparently very keen to play under Bolton. If (big if) that's true, I'd say that would be the sticking point.

 

[Kramer1]

He was apparently very keen to play under Bolton. If (big if) that's true, I'd say that would be the sticking point.

Is there a previous relationship? What's the motivation to play under a first year coach?

 

[Jatz]

Is there a previous relationship? What's the motivation to play under a first year coach?

No idea. He smiles a lot?

 

[gandaal]

Gunston seems more like a footballer to me.

Sadly agreed.

 

[Omega Blue]

So what does Gunston feel like?

Regret

 

[big jilm]

Isn't Fullback and Centre Halfback pretty much interchangeable these days. They generally swap over depending on the better match ups or whatever reason. But generally they aren't pigeon holed as a CHB and never play deeper.

On a seperate note... If we had Jamison, Carlilse, Weitering and Plowman... who would miss out?

Hawks have Lake, Gibson, Frawley & Stratton & work well together. As long as Plowman can play on smalls like Stratton can, I can see all 4 working in the one backline.

 

[Broadside]

Shit if we land those defenders (Plowman,Carlisle,Weitering), i can't see us losing a game next year

could be a lot of nil all draws

rushed behinds could decide it

 

[HBF]

We definitely wanted him as a swing man.

Ideal replacement for Hendo.
And if we do get Carlisle then we have two genuine swingmen on our list.

 

[AceAndy]

Ideal replacement for Hendo.
And if we do get Carlisle then we have two genuine swingmen on our list.

Who is the other genuine swingman ?

 

[Jabba73]

Who is the other genuine swingman ?

Terry Alderman

 

[TBellicious]

Who is the other genuine swingman ?

KJ

 

[AceAndy]

KJ

Not sure he has quite reached that level, the last genuine swingman the club had was SOS.

 

[HBF]

Who is the other genuine swingman ?

Jacksh.

 

[Space Cadet]

I vote we play our defenders in defence and forwards up forward.

Though it could get a bit tricky if we bring in Weitering, Carlisle and Plowman while losing Hendo and Watson (after Waite last year).
Not against trying Weitering up forward if he is a SOS-like talent (SOS kicked a few bags in his career). Would prefer him or Carlisle up forward instead of Rowe.

 

[Blue Razor]

I vote we play our defenders in defence and forwards up forward.

Though it could get a bit tricky if we bring in Weitering, Carlisle and Plowman while losing Hendo and Watson (after Waite last year).
Not against trying Weitering up forward if he is a SOS-like talent (SOS kicked a few bags in his career). Would prefer him or Carlisle up forward instead of Rowe.

He might also learn how to be a better backman by playing forward. Also keep in mind he is 18 and has a lot of growth to go, jamo can definitely help develop him for next couple of years.

SOS kicked over 200 goals in his career. Not bad for the beat full back of all time.

 

[Robbo's my hero]

Bit of a waste to play a guy like Weitering at Full Back. He's more than a stopper.

They all don't play like Talia.

 

[thylacine60]

I vote we play our defenders in defence and forwards up forward.

Though it could get a bit tricky if we bring in Weitering, Carlisle and Plowman while losing Hendo and Watson (after Waite last year).
Not against trying Weitering up forward if he is a SOS-like talent (SOS kicked a few bags in his career). Would prefer him or Carlisle up forward instead of Rowe.

Loving your work lately, SC.

 

[Robbo's my hero]

Who is the other genuine swingman ?

 

[Broadside]

He might also learn how to be a better backman by playing forward. Also keep in mind he is 18 and has a lot of growth to go, jamo can definitely help develop him for next couple of years.

SOS kicked over 200 goals in his career. Not bad for the beat full back of all time.

SOS was about the last time a swingman won us a game. When did Waite or Henderson ever win us a game when switching from defence to attack, or vice-versa? Answer I am guessing is never. Swingmen are overrated. Let them specialise in one position and excel at it.

 

[thylacine60]

Swingmen to the backline tend to put out spot-fires rather than win games themselves. Swingmen to the forward line tend to move as a result of us lacking firepower or being spanked in attack. Either way, I think you're right, any winning can be seen as only indirectly achieved by a Swingman.

 

[SickQwon]

SOS was about the last time a swingman won us a game. When did Waite or Henderson ever win us a game when switching from defence to attack, or vice-versa? Answer I am guessing is never. Swingmen are overrated. Let them specialise in one position and excel at it.

Round 18, 2014 against North Melbourne

 

[Broadside]

Round 18, 2014 against North Melbourne

I went to that game, but did Waite get used as a swingman or just play the whole game in attack? my point still stands even if severely undermined by a recent, freakish example that will likely not happen again in our lifetimes.

 

[youngnanler]

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Is that you PooMonkey ?? In the physio again?

I can confirm from a very close source of mine (his name rhymes with Lark Mogiudice) that Carlisle will in fact be coming to Carlton on a 4 year deal estimated at around $700,000 per year. Both clubs at a stalemate on the deal, with Essendon demanding pick 19 and a very solid player (Curnow or White possibly), with Carlton not willing to give up a player of this calibre, instead offering their third round pick and next year's second rounder. A third club may come into the equation, with a possible three way trade reading like:

Carlisle and a third rounder to Carlton
Pick 4 and 19 to St Kilda
Jack Billings and next year's second rounder to Essendon