Rumour Bluemour Discussion XXXV - 'Loopy' Season has begun

[FlowersByIrene]

Yep - I just worry we are going back to that Messiah complex. Hope I'm wrong

Last time we had a "messiah" complex our midfield consisted of Thomas Bell and Robinson and we had amazing key position players like Brett Thornton and Setanta O'Hailpin.

Our list is at a completely different stage right now. It could theoretically cost us more NOT to try and capitalise on the talent we have available to us now by chasing the cherry on top player.

 

[bradfisher14]

Have permission to post as source feels it's well known in the industry.

Source : former player, current journalist/commentator (non Melvourne) in discussion with an agent who has multiple Melbourne players on his books.

• Petracca contract "re-signed well aware of a number of major issues ongoing at Melbourne. Contract inflated as a result."
• More issues non-Petracca related have since arisen impacting club wide
• Injury and the way it was dealt with has been a major catalyst but not the be all end all
• "There comes a point of no return. Melbourne have blown past it there times over "
• Petracca has "chased Carlton well aware of their list situation . Would want to add to what they have and chase premierships not replace it."
• Melbourne are in no win situation. They've ****ed up. Have no grounds to stand on. Petracca has allegedly "already engaged with the AFLPA reps which for Melvourne are Marty Hore and Tom McDonald. It's gone beyond them."
• Belief that if a move is there for him it'll be done without hiccup.
• Not a case where Carlton is pursuing a contracted player. Petracca has identified Carlton.
• Will renegotiate his contraxt from scratch "He will leave big money on the table. Will make it up after footy at Carlton. He knows money doesn't buy happiness"
• "Would take a mass clean out for him to stay at Melbourne. Trust broken across multiple departments. It will not happen."

 

[swuzzlebubble]

I'm normally anti-messiah like Stamos... willing to be flexible on this one

 

[myblueroan]

Yep - I just worry we are going back to that Messiah complex. Hope I'm wrong

I woudn't see Trac as any more than a fabulous addition to our team. Another hard working talented player.
BUt he doesn't supercede Crippa. Or our heart and soul players or our very talented ones.
As it seems he himself has said. He will add to what we've got.
We don't need saving.

 

[Ninja Worrier]

If we can get Trac without losing any of our guns, giving up this year's first ronder, blowing up our salary cap, and still being able to afford Albert Proud

Albert Proud

Age

36

Ht

180cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.5

3star

K

5.5

2star

HB

6.0

4star

M

3.1

3star

T

2.9

4star

CL

0.7

3star

No current season stats available

D

7.8

2star

K

4.6

2star

HB

3.2

3star

M

2.4

3star

T

3.0

5star

then I'm all for it

 

[Opium]

I'm normally anti-messiah like Stamos... willing to be flexible on this one

 

[Blue and Silver]

I have until now not speculated how tasty a midfield with Cripps, Petracca and Walsh would be.

Without even considering second stringers

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[HereComesJuddy]

If we can get Trac without losing any of our guns, giving up this year's first ronder, blowing up our salary cap, and still being able to afford Albert Proud then I'm all for it

AP would slot in perfectly as our boot studder if he was allowed out of jail

 

[Stickitupthem]

I'm back in business. Haven't felt this alive since last trade period!

Hi mate I’ve been in a hole since the filth game can’t believe we lost to that scum
Your posts are getting me excited wherever they land thanks for info your a true blue I can tell
As they say Go hard or go home

 

[Poorman53]

This may be common knowledge, however posting anyway. Bartel has had on going discussions with Carlton/Cook about coming on board.

We're not the only club and the AFL are also in to him.

Imo it's either us or AFL.

 

[bluebaggerjuls]

think the underrated thing about Petracca is his forward craft is exceptional. As he gets closer to his mid-30s he will still be very damaging when he cant play full games in the midfield

 

[Ninja Worrier]

think the underrated thing about Proud is his forward craft is exceptional. As he gets closer to his mid-30s he will still be very damaging when he cant play full games in the midfield

EFA

 

[Blue_Fusion]

Last time we had a "messiah" complex our midfield consisted of Thomas Bell and Robinson and we had amazing key position players like Brett Thornton and Setanta O'Hailpin.

Our list is at a completely different stage right now. It could theoretically cost us more NOT to try and capitalise on the talent we have available to us now by chasing the cherry on top player.

Yep. It's amazing that people don't realise this...

As good as Oliver was, Cripps is even better at extracting the pill and finding a target with a handball in congested traffic... Trac will have a field day receiving those...

Right now, we have no one who can really capitalise on Crippa's work... Walsh sometimes makes the most of it, but more often than not he blindly kicks forward or dishes off hospital handballs. Kennedy can't hit a f50 target, George is a solid contributor and Cerra can't get out there.

That rotten run we had to finish the season, imo was mostly driven by the midfield being way too reliant on Cripps. Right now, as talented as our list is, they haven't taken us to top 4 and it's obvious our midfield flaws are holding us back. Trac is a game changer for us.

When Cody comes in, imagine the value of having him learn from Crippa and Trac...

 

[carlton_99]

I woudn't see Trac as any more than a fabulous addition to our team. Another hard working talented player.
BUt he doesn't supercede Crippa. Or our heart and soul players or our very talented ones.
As it seems he himself has said. He will add to what we've got.
We don't need saving.

We don't need saving but what we would need to give up for a Petracca is significant and could have cultural impacts at the club. Especially if our top earners have indeed taken less to stay together

 

[Blue_Fusion]

This may be common knowledge, however posting anyway. Bartel has had on going discussions with Carlton/Cook about coming on board.

We're not the only club and the AFL are also in to him.

Imo it's either us or AFL.

Would be another great get imo

 

[Opium]

We don't need saving but what we would need to give up for a Petracca is significant and could have cultural impacts

I suspect it will be draft picks.

 

[Red Bull]

Good.

Sending a player to Melbourne atm feels like more than a punishment too... You'd have to really dislike a bloke to wish Melbourne upon him.

 

[teagueyubeauty]

Are we instantly premiership favourite In 2025 if we get petracca and don’t lose a star KP player. I’d happily turn over Cerra and a first but that is all.

Nothing will win us a premiership if we don’t get the phys ed department right, whoever comes in that area could change our fortunes far more than Petracca would


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[Blue_Fusion]

We don't need saving but what we would need to give up for a Petracca is significant and could have cultural impacts at the club. Especially if our top earners have indeed taken less to stay together

Reading too much into it...

As I've said before...

Pies moved on Grundy and Treloar... won a flag shortly thereafter...

Dogs traded their bloody captain and won a flag 2 seasons later...

 

[FlowersByIrene]

We don't need saving but what we would need to give up for a Petracca is significant and could have cultural impacts at the club. Especially if our top earners have indeed taken less to stay together

This is all assuming that our top players buy into the move, which I suspect they would.

 

[carlton_99]

This is all assuming that our top players buy into the move, which I suspect they would.

My point is I suspect one of our top players would have to be involved in the move for it to work.

 

[carlton_99]

I suspect it will be draft picks.

Would be ideal but salary cap makes that difficult.

 

[carlton_99]

Reading too much into it...

As I've said before...

Pies moved on Grundy and Treloar... won a flag shortly thereafter...

Dogs traded their bloody captain and won a flag 2 seasons later...

I still value a McKay/Curnow/TDK higher than a Petracca. Especially the first two who have signed on long term with the club.

 

[choo]

If I’m Cerra’s manager, I’m telling him to put his hand up for Melbourne.
CFC Midfield he would sit behind Cripps, Walsh and Petracca. Then Hewett, Kennedy, Lij, Lord in the mix.
Go to Melbourne be #1 mid.
He left freo for midfield time and was impressed with Melbourne push.
Melbourne also get a key forward and clean up their act they’ll be okay



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[Arr0w]

Would be ideal but salary cap makes that difficult.

A player will be involved if a trade happens