I would of jumped at a second-rounder for Kemp, he doesn't have the composure or ability one on one to every be a good defender.
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Doesn’t matter if he does, we have the collateral or very close to it already
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Most players are fringe players early in their careers.
Unless you’re a Walsh/Daicos type, it’s rare for a player to dominate from season 1.
I’ve seen enough from Kemp ( small sample admittedly) that if persevered with and allowed to settle in one position, being 3rd tall fwd, that he will become a valuable member of the side, and a potential nightmare for the opposition to match up on.
I can see him EASILY, replacing the 30 goals that Owies kicked, with the addition of better defensive pressure.
I look at the improvement by Waterman this year, and envisage Kemp becoming that type of player for us.
He gives us so much flexibility up forward. He’s a natural lead up fwd, can take a pack mark, has some wheels and is aggressive.
I’m amazed you can’t see that.
Absolute lunacy to trade him for a pick in the 30’s
Happy to regenerate as every chance this current squad isn't constructed well enough. Lacks a lot of leg speed and skill so need to have one eye on future pre tassie coming in.
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We’re being told how deep the draft is, and we took Cowan at 30 two years ago and he played round 1.
I agree that should we be looking to bring in a bigger bodied player in the Kemp mould it’s unlikely that they’d be impacting immediately, but it’s certainly not impossible.
I agree we need overs for Kemp to let him go. But I won’t be devastated if it’s not what we get.
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Most of us know by this time next year he probably isn't worth much and not a 2nd rounder.
Here's another one (I don't care how bad they are, I love doing this)....
Saints: Kemp, F5 (Blues)
Tigers: Picks 25, F2 (Saints)
Blues: Picks 23 & 24 (Tigers)
Equivalent of pick 11 for Kemp, it's overs but pony up saints
Tigers move on of their seconds in to next season's draft and bump the other back by only 1 spot
We get 1 more first rounder + early second
Saints: Kemp, F5 (Blues)
Tigers: Picks 25, F2 (Saints)
Blues: Picks 23 & 24 (Tigers)
Equivalent of pick 11 for Kemp, it's overs but pony up saints
Tigers move on of their seconds in to next season's draft and bump the other back by only 1 spot
We get 1 more first rounder + early second
And we know SOS would do it.
For a Pick 17, 4 years into the system, in our best 22, and Swingman, I'd want a 1st rounder.
EDIT: I'll also add that he's under contract & if Baker (Out of Contract) is worth Pick 14 then Kemp should be at least what we picked him at. SOS can GAGF
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a pick for campo 1 at 32 requires 584 points minus the 197 point discount - so 387 points. 63, 68 and 69 cover that assuming they have moved up 5 picks through other academy and fathers son picks - which is conservative given ashcroft, kako etc will be churning up heaps of picks
therefore - its fine if he does it anyhow
therefore - its fine if he does it anyhow
Kemp is a good offensive player who has been poorly used by the team so far. Will be a valuable part of our forward line next season. I doubt we trade him.
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Our salary cap must be in all sorts if we take 32 for Kemp, who I can’t see being on bucket loads. We’re so incredibly light on for KP depth
St Kilda have plenty of options if they don’t want to give up 8 for Kemp. Could easily split that pick.
That said, if I’m Austin, the starting point must be 8 or gtfo.
That said, if I’m Austin, the starting point must be 8 or gtfo.
If we need to do this then it's an indication of list mismanagement.
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How many here remember Pearce in 95?
Basically came out of nowhere, complemented Sticks and The Duke perfectly.
Thats the role I see Kemp playing.
Basically came out of nowhere, complemented Sticks and The Duke perfectly.
Thats the role I see Kemp playing.
Motlop will kick 30 IF he plays every game. Zac Williams also looked good when moved forward.
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Also that pick 32 may end up 34 which will mean less points required
Pearce was great that year. He was quick off the mark and had a lovely left foot kick on him.
What is stopping that flog from bidding on both Campo's at the proposed traded '32'?
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Guess it comes down to how one values the two.
I personally think it works in our favour - cleans up the list a bit, brings in a type we need, frees up cash, and given all forecasts are that it’s a very deep draft, a 20-25 this year could perhaps be regarded as 15-20 in most other years. There are plenty of highly rated players projected around 20-25.
Can understand if others value Kemp/Kennedy higher than that and/or don’t see the benefit that I see for our list, but I am seeing some wild valuations of Kemp in this thread (and also wild ideas of how much being contracted moves the needle).
Ultimately, still think whether we trade Kemp will come down to whether we can satisfy a 20-25 Club with whatever Saints offer us + Kennedy comp. I doubt it happens.
Losing Owies, Kennedy and if Kemp goes that's a lot of good experienced Depth out the door.
A couple of injuries and we're ****ed again like the second half of this season.
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Our Cap is FINE!
We would have taken Houston if the deal was right - that means there is plenty of cash available if needed.
Given that situation we also have money for TDK - we are currently paying TDK so it’s not like we need to find $1m + for him.
We are also just about to bring in a heap of kids & DFA who are on ****all.
People talk shit (incl the media talking heads) & have no actual clue what they are on about.
Our Cap is FINE!
We would have taken Houston if the deal was right - that means there is plenty of cash available if needed.
Given that situation we also have money for TDK - we are currently paying TDK so it’s not like we need to find $1m + for him.
We are also just about to bring in a heap of kids & DFA who are on ****all.
People talk shit (incl the media talking heads) & have no actual clue what they are on about.
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