Border Gavaskar Trophy, India v Australia, 4th Test 9-13 March, 1430hrs at Ahmedabad

[Titch3Votes0MooreAA]

Apparently, Albo will be attending the test.

 

[Mop]

Apparently, Albo will be attending the test.

Nah, he's our new opener.

 

[MC Bad Genius]

Nah, he's our new opener.

I’d hope not. I’m sick of sending young openers to the wolves only to see them massively regress and be basically unpickable for 4-5 years.

 

[sosos]

I’d hope not. I’m sick of sending young openers to the wolves only to see them massively regress and be basically unpickable for 4-5 years.

Nothing wrong with giving young players a baptism of fire. The trick is to back them if they struggle early.

 

[corbies]

Like I said, a serious talent, just not yet a genuine front line quick. That is the hard part, which spinner do you drop? The Indian batsman seem to be genuinely worried by Morris, 16 overs for 18 runs shows this, but Kuhnemann gives us that left arm option - genuine damned if you do type situation.

Took me ages to work out you meant Murphy here. I was like when the **** did Morris play against India?

 

[11kgm]

..what?

Starc was brutal when he bowled in the first innings. On a spinners pitch he had them scared. Boland is a good bowler, but he's not your sole strike bowler in this state.

Starc was all over the place, and look like he wasn't 100% fit

 

[corbies]

Starc was all over the place, and look like he wasn't 100% fit

He went at less than 3 an over for the Test match.

If you're worried about a bowler being all over the place but your suggestion to fix that is replace him with Lance Morris then I suggest you've never seen Lance Morris bowl. There's a reason his career economy rate in first class cricket is 3.64.

 

[corbies]

I'd like to see Carey going full sweepologist during this Test. It's his strength and he's a sitting duck trying to play spin any other way. Give me a 30 with 5 boundaries through point playing the reverse.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

He went at less than 3 an over for the Test match.

If you're worried about a bowler being all over the place but your suggestion to fix that is replace him with Lance Morris then I suggest you've never seen Lance Morris bowl. There's a reason his career economy rate in first class cricket is 3.64.

Starc also should have had 1/0 in the first over if we could review and the umpire wasn’t a blind bat. Bowled really well

 

[Westend]

Preparing two pitches to choose from takes pitch doctoring to a whole new level. Now the Indians will have two to choose from on the basis of what will best suit them, just in case one of them wasn't as advantageous as they'd like. Will the ICC ever step in on how pitches are blatantly being prepared to unreasonably and unfairly manipulate results?

Seriously would not surprise me if we have to bat on one and India on the other

 

[Jim Prideaux]

Took me ages to work out you meant Murphy here. I was like when the * did Morris play against India?

Ha ha ha, yup, got my M’s mixed up there

 

[Van_Dyke]

He went at less than 3 an over for the Test match.

If you're worried about a bowler being all over the place but your suggestion to fix that is replace him with Lance Morris then I suggest you've never seen Lance Morris bowl. There's a reason his career economy rate in first class cricket is 3.64.

yeah Morris only gets a gig if Starc doesn't get up and they want a strike option. hope he's perfected his drink carrying duties by now

 

[Happy Mastenator]

If we go two spinners I’d go Kuhermann and Lyon as the two. Bare in mind you do have Head who is a handy third option.

Like I said, a serious talent, just not yet a genuine front line quick. That is the hard part, which spinner do you drop? The Indian batsman seem to be genuinely worried by Murphy, 16 overs for 18 runs shows this, but Kuhnemann gives us that left arm option - genuine damned if you do type situation.

I think Murphy may be a better bowler than Kuhnemann but given you are playing Lyon, you partner him with Kuhnemann given he's a left armer and a point of difference as against Murphy.

 

[Jim Prideaux]

I think Murphy may be a better bowler than Kuhnemann but given you are playing Lyon, you partner him with Kuhnemann given he's a left armer and a point of difference as against Murphy.

I sort of agree, and sort don’t (I’m so on the fence I believe the iron has entered my soul). Part of Lyons success was that India refused to try and score off Murphy, it heaped pressure on their batters, and caused mistakes (not taking away from Lyon for a moment, he was superb). India don’t have that with Kuhnemann, but he did bowl well and does offer that point of difference to compliment Lyon

 

[Happy Mastenator]

I wish we had another quality batter that would allow us to drop one of the spinners and go in with three specialist bowlers, Starc/Boland, Lyon and Kuhnamen/Murphy (assuming pitch is similar to those we've had so far), with Green and Head as the other bowling options.

That would stiffen up our spine while providing enough bowling, but since there's no batters demanding to be picked may as well go in with 4 specialist bowlers.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

I think Murphy may be a better bowler than Kuhnemann but given you are playing Lyon, you partner him with Kuhnemann given he's a left armer and a point of difference as against Murphy.

It’s sort of why I’m hesitant to make a change regardless. Just bowl Green a bit more if need be

 

[LukeParkerno1]

I sort of agree, and sort don’t (I’m so on the fence I believe the iron has entered my soul). Part of Lyons success was that India refused to try and score off Murphy, it heaped pressure on their batters, and caused mistakes (not taking away from Lyon for a moment, he was superb). India don’t have that with Kuhnemann, but he did bowl well and does offer that point of difference to compliment Lyon

This is why we’ll play the 3 spinners and 2 seam options. It’s enough in these conditions

 

[Jim Prideaux]

This is why we’ll play the 3 spinners and 2 seam options. It’s enough in these conditions

Quite possibly.

 

[The 747]

So these campaigners actually do have water hey, what a surprise

Yes they have beautiful lush outfields that wouldn't look out of place at the MCG.

 

[The 747]

More than likely, wouldn’t quite call green a frontline quick just yet. Amazing potential though. I’ll be very interested to see which pitch and in what condition it’s in on match day.

I would like to see us use Green more like a front line quick - and especially as an opening bowler because he can actually swing it, but we don't at the moment. Issue is he tends to bowl fairly poorly first up then get better as the game progresses. Needs more work.

 

[the_interloper]

Not sure I agree entirely. A tail making runs shouldn’t be something you rely on, and I don’t think picking a team that way is a good idea. Moot point anyway, Cummins has more important things to worry about, and isn’t available.

Absolutely, from 8 to 11 you're only a bowler, sometimes you can get unlucky if you get 4 bunnies though, at least one can usually hold a bat.

 

[010203]

I just want a test that lasts more than 3 days.

 

[The 747]

I sort of agree, and sort don’t (I’m so on the fence I believe the iron has entered my soul). Part of Lyons success was that India refused to try and score off Murphy, it heaped pressure on their batters, and caused mistakes (not taking away from Lyon for a moment, he was superb). India don’t have that with Kuhnemann, but he did bowl well and does offer that point of difference to compliment Lyon

I'd keep all three and bowl Green more. These three spinners are actually doing a very decent job for us - if you had said at the start of the series Murphy and Kuhn would be holding their own against Indian batters in India people would think you were crazy. Only time it has got away from them was in the first when they were overbowled by the end and got carted by Patel.

 

[big_e]

Pitch has been decided. You can all calm down now.

 

[Rabish Binney]

Pitch has been decided. You can all calm down now.

And the winner is?