Oppo Camp Brodie Grundy (Traded to Melbourne 2022)

[TradeDraft]

Hopefully the New Coaches can Re-Lit the Fire in him again

 

[Rusty Beam]

That head toss when he needs to put in an effort is ****ing infuriating…

 

[The Royal Sampler]

Hopefully the New Coaches can Re-Lit the Fire in him again

Yep might be our best hope now.

 

[Trickster]

I’m no Grundy hater but if port or adel took his contract for 600k with us paying 300 I’d take it, front load it next two years and pay 600k per season off, and play lynch. Short term pain to see an end to chronic mismanagement

If a team gets bundled out of finals and comes hard for him (Port or Geel), hopefully we can get a 1st rounder, a reasonable young player and not pay any of his salary. Have to keep Lynch.

I think we need something like this to accelerate our rebuild and frer up cap space. Scrutiny will continue otherwise and this will be a huge noose around us for years if we can't orchestrate anything.

 

[Axl the great]

Honestly carries on like actually doing his ******* job is too much to ask. Melodramatic and acts like a emo man child.

I’ve said it time and time again. His contract is the single worst decision this club has ever made. Beams, Wells etc all pale in comparison.

It will be a millstone around our neck until it is done and destroy any chance of being successful in that timeframe.

A ruck like Nakervis, O’Brien etc would offer more on much less than Grundy. Horrible list management that seems to just be par for the course at Collingwood.

Imagine Grundy out, Hickey and Peter Wright in and an extra 500k plus 2 possible first rounders in for us.
That was possible at the end of last year and looking at it now you would take it and run.

 

[Ugene41]

Two years of it??

No its deeper than that - he is a shadow of the player he was and he just doesn't GAF.

It hasn't been two years. He was the dominant ruckman in the AFL first half of last season until Covid hublife took its toll and Collingwood's form dived. He's also had a pretty good season this year apart from the last few weeks and the odd game here and there. He's averaged similar numbers of possession (c.20) whilst having his career best year in terms of goals. His output seems lower cause our midfield has been terrible this year.

He was on his previous $500k contract last year that clearly undervalued him for years. Unlike Beams, he didn't request a trade whilst contracted on an amount that was undervaluing his output. He didn't ask for $800k+ contracts based purely on potential like JDG/Moore. Only once he proved himself as a premier ruckman in the competition, he asked for his marquee contract.

He's also highly durable and rarely misses games. We get better value from the $950k we pay him per season than the similar contracts currently being paid to Buddy Franklin, Josh Kelly, NicNat, McGovern, Fyfe, Cognilio, Gaff, Cripps, Heeney, Sloane etc. Many of them are injury prone and regularly miss half a season.

We need to get over his contract. It's no where near as bad as what we wasted on Beams, Wells, Mayne (his original contract) and the amount we were paying Treloar when he's never been good enough for AA. The only issue with his contract isn't the fact he's on $950k per season. It's just that it might be 2 years too long. Which just means that he will be on a long term contract at the backend of his career vs rolling over 1 year contracts that might still be worth $750k p.a. At most we might be overpaying by $500k at the end of his contract. But inflation and increases in salary cap in 7 years time will probably reduce that to nothing.

Grundy will be a foundational part of our rebuild and underpin our next flag tilt. Our list issues lie elsewhere.

 

[JLC]

It hasn't been two years. He was the dominant ruckman in the AFL first half of last season until Covid hublife took its toll and Collingwood's form dived. He's also had a pretty good season this year apart from the last few weeks and the odd game here and there. He's averaged similar numbers of possession (c.20) whilst having his career best year in terms of goals. His output seems lower cause our midfield has been terrible this year.

He was on his previous $500k contract last year that clearly undervalued him for years. Unlike Beams, he didn't request a trade whilst contracted on an amount that was undervaluing his output. He didn't ask for $800k+ contracts based purely on potential like JDG/Moore. Only once he proved himself as a premier ruckman in the competition, he asked for his marquee contract.

He's also highly durable and rarely misses games. We get better value from the $950k we pay him per season than the similar contracts currently being paid to Buddy Franklin, Josh Kelly, NicNat, McGovern, Fyfe, Cognilio, Gaff, Cripps, Heeney, Sloane etc. Many of them are injury prone and regularly miss half a season.

We need to get over his contract. It's no where near as bad as what we wasted on Beams, Wells, Mayne (his original contract) and the amount we were paying Treloar when he's never been good enough for AA. The only issue with his contract isn't the fact he's on $950k per season. It's just that it might be 2 years too long. Which just means that he will be on a long term contract at the backend of his career vs rolling over 1 year contracts that might still be worth $750k p.a. At most we might be overpaying by $500k at the end of his contract. But inflation and increases in salary cap in 7 years time will probably reduce that to nothing.

Grundy will be a foundational part of our rebuild and underpin our next flag tilt. Our list issues lie elsewhere.

Do you know if there is a clause in his 7 year contract that talks about running etc? Seems running any further than 20m goes into the too hard basket.

 

[Rusty Beam]

We need to get over his contract. It's no where near as bad as what we wasted on Beams, Wells, Mayne (his original contract) and the amount we were paying Treloar when he's never been good enough for AA. The only issue with his contract isn't the fact he's on $950k per season. It's just that it might be 2 years too long. Which just means that he will be on a long term contract at the backend of his career vs rolling over 1 year contracts that might still be worth $750k p.a. At most we might be overpaying by $500k at the end of his contract. But inflation and increases in salary cap in 7 years time will probably reduce that to nothing.

Grundy will be a foundational part of our rebuild and underpin our next flag tilt. Our list issues lie elsewhere.

That’s your opinion.

Mine opinion runs somewhat counter:

- His contract is a much worse list management decision than Beams/Wells/Mayne;
- The contract is too long, but it is ALSO way way too much;
- His contract lies at the absolute heart of our list management issues and will undermine (not underpin) any flag aspirations.

 

[Dead Eye Didak]

Very disappointing effort from Brodes today. Looked completely disinterested, and we would’ve been better of, him not featuring at all today.
One mark for the entire game ( Cameron took 9), will hopefully have the club talk to him in the coming week, and just get where he is at, and what he is going to do to get his game back to a level he is capable of, because today was embarrassing...

 

[Ugene41]

Do you know if there is a clause in his 7 year contract that talks about running etc? Seems running any further than 20m goes into the too hard basket.

That fact you talk about running as a KPI for a ruckman probably speaks more about the talent of Grundy and the unrealistic expectations we have of him. How much running do you see from any of the other ruckman in the competition?

It seems that unless Grundy is winning every hitout to advantage like NicNat, taking big marks around the ground like Gawn, winning clearances like Adams and running through the midfield as a link man like Crisp then he's had a crap game and not worth his contract.

 

[Rebuilder]

That’s your opinion.

Mine opinion runs somewhat counter:

- His contract is a much worse list management decision than Beams/Wells/Mayne;
- The contract is too long, but it is ALSO way way too much;
- His contract lies at the absolute heart of our list management issues and will undermine (not underpin) any flag aspirations.

The Australian gives these numbers but surely it's backended? I can see us extending him to 10 years when it starts to bite.

Brodie Grundy

Club: Collingwood

SALARY: $550,000-$625,000

COVID SALARY: $414,000-$450,000

 

[ClaytonM]

I think you're confusing Collingwood supporters and BF stirrers Dave. Jealous people with a keyboard.

You do realise we are in this mess at the moment in part due to how much Grundy is being paid. He needs to be playing like a million dollar man, not an average ruckman to escape criticism. His contract is selfish.

 

[Ugene41]

The Australian gives these numbers but surely it's backended? I can see us extending him to 10 years when it starts to bite.

Brodie Grundy

Club: Collingwood

SALARY: $550,000-$625,000

COVID SALARY: $414,000-$450,000

That article was based on last season. Grundy was still on his old contract that significantly undervalued his output for the past 3 years.

 

[TW Sherrin]

Yep might be our best hope now.

Best result would be Grundy asking to go home. Port couldn't afford him but Adelaide might be a chance.

 

[JLC]

That fact you talk about running as a KPI for a ruckman probably speaks more about the talent of Grundy and the unrealistic expectations we have of him. How much running do you see from any of the other ruckman in the competition?

It seems that unless Grundy is winning every hitout to advantage like NicNat, taking big marks around the ground like Gawn, winning clearances like Adams and running through the midfield as a link man like Crisp then he's had a crap game and not worth his contract.

1 possession in the forward or defensive 50 m today.

Only mark came in the last quarter of the game.

 

[gouki88]

Best result would be Grundy asking to go home. Port couldn't afford him but Adelaide might be a chance.

I think the best result would be him regaining his form here.

 

[PieBeast]

He's looking more and more like a plodder as time goes by and there's still another 6 years left...

I struggle to see how we get out of this as no club will be stupid enough to take on his contract.

 

[TradeDraft]

He's looking more and more like a plodder as time goes by and there's still another 6 years left...

I struggle to see how we get out of this as no club will be stupid enough to take on his contract.

All in the Head

 

[JLC]

All in the Head

Whose head? Ours or Grundys?

 

[PieBeast]

All in the Head

Nah mate, while he clearly didn't look interested today I'm a lot more concerned about him looking immobile.

 

[The Royal Sampler]

Best result would be Grundy asking to go home. Port couldn't afford him but Adelaide might be a chance.

That’s not going to happen at the start of a 7-year-deal.

Let’s hope one of the first questions thrown at coaching candidates was “what would you do to get this lug playing good footy again!”

 

[TradeDraft]

Nah mate, while he clearly didn't look interested today I'm a lot more concerned about him looking immobile.

That comes like that when You not Trying too hard. Anyone would look Slow

 

[Matrix10]

Do you know if there is a clause in his 7 year contract that talks about running etc? Seems running any further than 20m goes into the too hard basket.

Pea heart Brodie runs to the arms of his mummy quicker than a gazzelle

 

[Leviathan Pie]

Probably the biggest issue for the new coach to work through.

Even when he was struggling he tried, I'm not a Brodie 'hater' - I just hate the contract.

Recently he genuinely seems to be turning his nose up at the required effort, which is probably the worst sign of all.

 

[jonmacTrag]

It hasn't been two years. He was the dominant ruckman in the AFL first half of last season until Covid hublife took its toll and Collingwood's form dived. He's also had a pretty good season this year apart from the last few weeks and the odd game here and there. He's averaged similar numbers of possession (c.20) whilst having his career best year in terms of goals. His output seems lower cause our midfield has been terrible this year.

He was on his previous $500k contract last year that clearly undervalued him for years. Unlike Beams, he didn't request a trade whilst contracted on an amount that was undervaluing his output. He didn't ask for $800k+ contracts based purely on potential like JDG/Moore. Only once he proved himself as a premier ruckman in the competition, he asked for his marquee contract.

He's also highly durable and rarely misses games. We get better value from the $950k we pay him per season than the similar contracts currently being paid to Buddy Franklin, Josh Kelly, NicNat, McGovern, Fyfe, Cognilio, Gaff, Cripps, Heeney, Sloane etc. Many of them are injury prone and regularly miss half a season.

We need to get over his contract. It's no where near as bad as what we wasted on Beams, Wells, Mayne (his original contract) and the amount we were paying Treloar when he's never been good enough for AA. The only issue with his contract isn't the fact he's on $950k per season. It's just that it might be 2 years too long. Which just means that he will be on a long term contract at the backend of his career vs rolling over 1 year contracts that might still be worth $750k p.a. At most we might be overpaying by $500k at the end of his contract. But inflation and increases in salary cap in 7 years time will probably reduce that to nothing.

Grundy will be a foundational part of our rebuild and underpin our next flag tilt. Our list issues lie elsewhere.

You need to get the rose coloured sunglasses off sunshine - I truly rate Grundy and always have but he he's playing with his head up his rrrs and no amount of moralizing or temporizing is going to change the fact that he doesn't contribute anywhere near as much as he did.