Preview Changes R20 v Fremantle

[Godfather32]

That would be worst case scenario if it happened and you’d probably just have to concede the ruck for the rest of the game, even with Vardy playing. Wouldn’t really matter who rucked out the game because Scott going down would be the end of our season. Can’t go picking players “just in case” an unlikely scenario happens, pick the best team to win. Vardy isn’t a quality ruck so we aren’t gaining an advantage by having two in..

Exactly, that's how you end up with Mitch Brown playing forward pocket in an elimination final

 

[VinegarStrokes]

It's the 3 tall defenders that seems ridiculous to me. We have one of (if not the best) defensive units in the AFL with our usual set up. Playing Gov, Barass and Schoey is pointless. The is why we end up stupid in game tactics like playing Barass and Vardy as our tall forwards... and we also lose drive coming off half back.

For those who want to compare to the Richmond benchmark it's essentially the same as their setup. Star / interceptor who plays on the 2nd best KF (Gov / Rance), Lockdown KB (Barass or Schoey / Ashbury), Lockdown who can play tall or small (Shep / Grimes) Interceptor / distributor (Hurn / Vlastuin) and small distributor (Jetta / Short). I doubt Damien Hardwick would be decide to replace Vlastuin or Short with some average KB if they were injured.

 

[Suma Magic]

Our structure is standard.

2 key backs
2 key forwards
A forward/ruck

If Kennedy was playing FF instead of Barrass then nobody would be commenting on our height, despite it being exactly the same.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Our structure is standard.

2 key backs
2 key forwards
A forward/ruck

If Kennedy was playing FF instead of Barrass then nobody would be commenting on our height, despite it being exactly the same.

Yeah, I'd have preferred if they tried Mellen or Brander in that role rather than Barrass (or McGovern if he's the one to go forward again) but structurally I think it's similar to what we've done most of the year. Possibly slightly smaller than usual since Waterman's been dropped, during our 10-win streak we had him, Darling, Kennedy and a resting Lycett in the forward line.

 

[Cuzz09]

Hmmm... had a shit dream we lost 12 goals to 4.

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[dave123]

It's the 3 tall defenders that seems ridiculous to me. We have one of (if not the best) defensive units in the AFL with our usual set up. Playing Gov, Barass and Schoey is pointless. The is why we end up stupid in game tactics like playing Barass and Vardy as our tall forwards... and we also lose drive coming off half back.

For those who want to compare to the Richmond benchmark it's essentially the same as their setup. Star / interceptor who plays on the 2nd best KF (Gov / Rance), Lockdown KB (Barass or Schoey / Ashbury), Lockdown who can play tall or small (Shep / Grimes) Interceptor / distributor (Hurn / Vlastuin) and small distributor (Jetta / Short). I doubt Damien Hardwick would be decide to replace Vlastuin or Short with some average KB if they were injured.

Schofield plays small

 

[dave123]

What it feels like

Is the selection committee is picking our best 22 okayers then putting them in spots ....hmmmmm

 

[VinegarStrokes]

Our structure is standard.

2 key backs
2 key forwards
A forward/ruck

If Kennedy was playing FF instead of Barrass then nobody would be commenting on our height, despite it being exactly the same.

Are we sure Barrass is playing forward? To me the team reads

3 Tall Defenders
1 Ruck
1 Key Forward
1 Forward / Ruck

 

[VinegarStrokes]

Schofield plays small

He doesn't though really. He played on Brown last week. I can guarantee he won't play on Ballantyne or Walters this week either

 

[Gugs9]

Are we sure Barrass is playing forward? To me the team reads

3 Tall Defenders
1 Ruck
1 Key Forward
1 Forward / Ruck

With jetta coming in you can almost guarantee one of gov or barrass will be playing FF.

Sheppard Schofield Hurn
Duggan Gov/Barrass Jetta
Gaff Redden Masten
Cripps Darling Lecras
Rioli Gov/Barrass Ryan

Cole Hutchings Venables Vardy

It’s been our pretty standard structure this year, probably slightly smaller without waterman now.

Not opposed to trying ah chee over vardy but also dont think we are as ridicuously tall as people are saying if vardy stays in

 

[Coasters7]

Our structure is standard.

2 key backs
2 key forwards
A forward/ruck

If Kennedy was playing FF instead of Barrass then nobody would be commenting on our height, despite it being exactly the same.

I think it has to be different without Nic. We’ve looked flat in both games since he went down and actually looked pretty solid in the one he didn’t finish. Nic was playing two positions at once and without him we are effectively a mid rotation down.

We need to fill Nics “midfield” spot and pick someone to ruck from the best 22, not try to squeeze Vardy in because he’s our next best ruckman. If you look at second ruckmen from other teams they would get a game regardless of their ability to ruck. Mason Cox, Tom MacDonald, Josh Jenkins, Jon Patton etc. Don’t think the same can be said of Vardy.

Really comes down to how much they trust Lycett to hold up but I wouldn’t mind just trying it out once. Should’ve done it last week as we were up against it playing in Tas anyway.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Dockers have added Johnson to the emergencies in place of Jones. Preparing for some silly buggers?

 

[ep2018]

Please I hope they bring in Johnson, he's been cooked for a while now.

 

[kaiserchief13]

Disappointing 1 ruck still hasn't been tried. Against Port next week you'd think they wouldn't try it against Ryder and then Gawn the week after again you wouldn't think they'd play 1 ruck. This was the week to do it

 

[eagles rule]

All those ragging on Vardy , he has to be there given Lycetts past injury history. If Lycett was to break down which let's be honest has happened a lot in the past few seasons , who would ruck in they team if Vardy wasn't there.

Agree why risk Lycett now with finals around the corner ..
Vardy needs games as well to build some form as he has missed a lot of footy this year ..

Keep the 2 Rucks tactic going I say .



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[bh90210fan]

Hmmm... had a shit dream we lost 12 goals to 4.

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12 goals for a Freo fan is a wet dream

 

[ziad]

Schofield plays small

I have seen Brander in that role - not yet is the answer

 

[wce4premiership]

I liked Barrass forward, took some good marks and lead strong, seemed to have good timing.

Vardy I'm not sold on, lacks any sort of mobility to apply defensive pressure and is perhaps surplus to needs. Very handy back up to have though and is a capable AFL player, just probably not for this set up.

Hope he proves me wrong.

 

[frenchconnection]

Disappointing 1 ruck still hasn't been tried. Against Port next week you'd think they wouldn't try it against Ryder and then Gawn the week after again you wouldn't think they'd play 1 ruck. This was the week to do it

I thought Ryder is injured and won't be playing when we play Port?

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

He's playing in the Showdown.

 

[The Falcon Strike]

Surely vardy is a late out with the wind and rain

Sure he can hold an end up as a second ruck, but he doesn’t give us impetus.

And he’s a liability elsewhere

I’d rather McInnes who at least offers strong leads and some defensive pressure

Or petch for some dash

TB can ruck 15%

 

[Luuuc]

Surely vardy is a late out with the wind and rain

There doesn't sound like too much to be worried about with wind or rain tomorrow
http://www.bom.gov.au/wa/forecasts/perth.shtml
(or are you referring to an unpleasant medical condition that Vardy is suffering from, rather than the weather forecast?)

 

[frenchconnection]

Surely vardy is a late out with the wind and rain

Sure he can hold an end up as a second ruck, but he doesn’t give us impetus.

And he’s a liability elsewhere

I’d rather McInnes who at least offers strong leads and some defensive pressure

Or petch for some dash

TB can ruck 15%

Didn't Vardy go alright last year - just wondering as there appears to be a lot of negativity regarding him on here?

 

[ep2018]

Didn't Vardy go alright last year - just wondering as there appears to be a lot of negativity regarding him on here?

Kicked a goal that kept us in the game in the final vs Port last year, he can stay for as long as he wants if it were up to me.

 

[RookiePick]

Didn't Vardy go alright last year - just wondering as there appears to be a lot of negativity regarding him on here?

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