Preview Changes: R6 vs Hawthorn, Sunday April 23, 12.40pm ACST @ York Park (Tasmania)

[bigman]

With Bond out still we have 43 players to choose from and we need 45 players. Squads could be something like the blow

AFL (23 Playes)
Jones
Keays
Murphy
Thilthorpe
Rachele
Sloane
Pedlar
Dawson
Walker
Soligo
Michalanney
Brown
Rankine
McHenry
Fogarty
Smith
Sholl
Doedee
Butts
O'Brien
Gollant
Hinge
McAdam

SANFL (22 player)
Berry
Crouch
Hately
Cook
Hamill
Taylor
Brown
Worrell
Schoenberg
Himmelberg
Borlase
McPherson
Parnell
Nankervis
Strachan
Keane
Wright
Madgen
Sharrad
O'Loughlin
Boyle
McKenzie

Crows dude don’t forget Murray and laird and Milera and Dowling

Now take out 4 from SANFL list. Becomes more difficult particularly for last two

 

[StickerMan]

He’s had some poor games here and there but I also think that they way some around here like to heap the blame mostly on Butts when his KPF opponent kicks a few snags is funny..

Half of the time that opposition KPF has been free to lead into massive holes in our defensive 50 that havent been plugged by our mids mostly due to laziness..

The competitions best KPF’s cant be stopped by one person. It needs to be a full team effort and that starts further up the ground.

The KPD is the very last line in the defense in trying to stop blokes like McKay, Curnow, Lynch, Tex, King bros, Fog, Hawkins etc etc.. if the guys further up the field are failing in their duties and not getting back to plug hiles in the D50 then the poor KPD is always going to struggle no matter how fxxkn good a KPD he is…

100% this.

KPD only as good as the team defence.

There is also some pretty handy KPFs kicking around these days, so there will be one or two that get off the chain and kick a bag.

The game v Carlton was a good one for both KPDs as the pressure up the field was fantastic and our team defence was structured perfectly, ensuring slow ball movement.

 

[StickerMan]

AFL Side:

B: Michaelanney Butts Hinge
HB: Doedee Murray Smith
C: Scholl Dawson Jones
HF: Pedlar Walker Murphy
F: Thilthorpe Fogarty Rankine
R: O'Brien Laird Rachele
I: Milera Sloane Keays Soligo
S: McHenry

SANFL:
B: Madgen Keane Hamill
HB: Cook Worrell Parnell
C: Taylor Crouch Schoenberg
HF: McAdam Himmelberg Nankervis
F: Newchurch Gollant Dowling
R: Strachan Berry Hately
I: Borlase Brown Wright

Only player unavailable on the list is Bond? Only top ups being Madgen and Wright.

You would imagine with the game in Tassie there is a travelling emergency, possibly Schoenberg or Berry?

 

[MsTopG]

With Bond out still we have 43 players to choose from and we need 45 players. Squads could be something like the blow

AFL (23 Playes)
Jones
Keays
Murphy
Thilthorpe
Rachele
Sloane
Pedlar
Dawson
Walker
Soligo
Michalanney
Brown
Rankine
McHenry
Fogarty
Smith
Sholl
Doedee
Butts
O'Brien
Gollant
Hinge
McAdam

SANFL (22 player)
Berry
Crouch
Hately
Cook
Hamill
Taylor
Brown
Worrell
Schoenberg
Himmelberg
Borlase
McPherson
Parnell
Nankervis
Strachan
Keane
Wright
Madgen
Sharrad
O'Loughlin
Boyle
McKenzie

That SANFL side would trouble some AFL sides. It would likely beat West coast , North Melbourne and be very competitive against Hawthorn, Gold Coast.

 

[jackster83]

AFL Side:

B: Michaelanney Butts Hinge
HB: Doedee Murray Smith
C: Scholl Dawson Jones
HF: Pedlar Walker Murphy
F: Thilthorpe Fogarty Rankine
R: O'Brien Laird Rachele
I: Milera Sloane Keays Soligo
S: McHenry

SANFL:
B: Madgen Keane Hamill
HB: Cook Worrell Parnell
C: Taylor Crouch Schoenberg
HF: McAdam Himmelberg Nankervis
F: Newchurch Gollant Dowling
R: Strachan Berry Hately
I: Borlase Brown Wright

Only player unavailable on the list is Bond? Only top ups being Madgen and Wright.

You would imagine with the game in Tassie there is a travelling emergency, possibly Schoenberg or Berry?

McPherson also.

 

[StickerMan]

McPherson also.

Oh yeah of course, did his hammy last match and was pretty distraught on the bench. Nicksy spent a fair amount of time with him at three quarter time.

 

[crows dude]

Crows dude don’t forget Murray and laird and Milera and Dowling

Now take out 4 from SANFL list. Becomes more difficult particularly for last two

whoops

 

[crows dude]

bigman

Ok yep tougher. A couple maybe left out as emergency so dont play any games. Gone with Hinge for now.

AFL (23 Playes)
Jones
Keays
Murphy
Thilthorpe
Laird
Rachele
Sloane
Pedlar
Milera
Dawson
Walker
Soligo
Michalanney
Brown
Rankine
Murray
McHenry
Fogarty
Smith
Sholl
Doedee
Butts
O'Brien
Hinge - Emergency


SANFL (22 player)
Berry
Crouch
Hately
Cook
Hamill
Taylor
Brown
Dowling
Worrell
Schoenberg
Himmelberg
Borlase
McPherson
Parnell
Gollant
McAdam
Nankervis
Strachan
Keane
Wright
Madgen
O'Loughlin

 

[crows dude]

AFL Side:

B: Michaelanney Butts Hinge
HB: Doedee Murray Smith
C: Scholl Dawson Jones
HF: Pedlar Walker Murphy
F: Thilthorpe Fogarty Rankine
R: O'Brien Laird Rachele
I: Milera Sloane Keays Soligo
S: McHenry

SANFL:
B: Madgen Keane Hamill
HB: Cook Worrell Parnell
C: Taylor Crouch Schoenberg
HF: McAdam Himmelberg Nankervis
F: Newchurch Gollant Dowling
R: Strachan Berry Hately
I: Borlase Brown Wright

Only player unavailable on the list is Bond? Only top ups being Madgen and Wright.

You would imagine with the game in Tassie there is a travelling emergency, possibly Schoenberg or Berry?

SANFL is 4 on the bench now as well.

 

[StickerMan]

SANFL is 4 on the bench now as well.

I wasn't sure whether that was the case or not.

So with a couple of emergencies, there will be possibly room for 3 top ups.

Centrals might be in for a tough day, you'd imagine.

 

[spenze]

Worrell is not an AFL KPD, he's a 3rd tall whether he's used back or forward.

Yep, he picked a bad time to be injured, will just have to get some games under his belt in the magoos

 

[Gtowncrow]

I think Thilthorpe plays better when we only go in with the 2 key talls up forward. If we do rest Tex and bring in McAdam or Gollant I can see TT having another big game against the Hawks in Tassie like he did in his debut.

If Tex rested and TT plays as a permanent forward, who is the chop out ruck?
Gollant becomes the only feasible replacement for Tex because of this. If not, this leaves Fog as our only KPF when TT rucking.

I've said this before but McAdam is not competing against Tex or Fog for a spot in the forward line.

 

[bigman]

Yep, he picked a bad time to be injured, will just have to get some games under his belt in the magoos

Worrell when fit is in our best 22. Who he replaces is the difficult question to answer

 

[Gtowncrow]

Worrell is going to be interesting, who do you drop from the defence and I want him in, but for who?

Doedee, Murray, Max no chance
Milera and Smith different players and both in form
Hinge, again not quite the same player but not far off. But were you moving Hinge? Wing for Sholl, but he’s been ok.
Butts really is the only one if his form drops and Worrell provides more intercepting and drive. If Butts shoulder is inhibiting him then don’t play him injured.

Worrell for Butts is a good swap if the oppo forwards don't have a second gorilla or a fast second key forward (J Cameron).

 

[Danger in Texas]

Worrell for Butts is a good swap if the oppo forwards don't have a second gorilla or a fast second key forward (J Cameron).

My hope is that Worrell could maybe play an Aliir role. Unlike Port, we’ve got a genuine aggressive KPD with decent size to help him out in Murray

Pretty sure Worrell has something like 7cm on Doedee, which is why I’m a lot more confident using him in the CHB interceptor role. Every bit of height and reach helps

 

[MsTopG]

Worrell when fit is in our best 22. Who he replaces is the difficult question to answer

Most likely Smith, Hinge or Milera. Worrell could play as a tall wingman as well but we have multiple options on the wing currently. If Sholl dropped off they could move Hinge to a wing and play Worrell in Hinge's spot down back.

 

[Gtowncrow]

My hope is that Worrell could maybe play an Aliir role. Unlike Port, we’ve got a genuine aggressive KPD with decent size to help him out in Murray

Pretty sure Worrell has something like 7cm on Doedee, which is why I’m a lot more confident using him in the CHB interceptor role. Every bit of height and reach helps

Agree that Doedee, Milera and Smith are keeping Worrell out for now. They all played pretty well on the weekend.
Maybe Worrell in front of these guys against a taller forward line??

I want him to play though...or we'll lose him.

 

[Crows I Am]

If Tex rested and TT plays as a permanent forward, who is the chop out ruck?
Gollant becomes the only feasible replacement for Tex because of this. If not, this leaves Fog as our only KPF when TT rucking.

I've said this before but McAdam is not competing against Tex or Fog for a spot in the forward line.

Yes good point Gollant would need to come in for Tex if we did go that way

ROB is capable of playing in the ruck 90-95% of the game time so it would only be short stints where TT would need to go in there. At those times then we have Fog and Gollant as our 2 marking options up there.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Agree that Doedee, Milera and Smith are keeping Worrell out for now. They all played pretty well on the weekend.
Maybe Worrell in front of these guys against a taller forward line??

I want him to play though...or we'll lose him.

Nah, doubt this .... having three hammy's over the PS ....Worrell will need to play 2-3 games of SANFL at a lower pace, to build confidence

He'll understand that too

 

[Mattrox]

We've never been down this path!

Best 22 all the way. Nose to the grindstone.

We've lost very winnable games in the past because of sucky players / sucky coaching / sucky selections, not because of resting veterans.

We've only recently started resting our oldies the last couple of years, and only because we've been out of the finals race by about Round 8

I disagree. It wasn't so much that we wouldn't rest players. Rather, we would play them injured (Tex's foot) rather than sit them out, thereby not playing our best team. And hampering development of the draftees.

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[Interloperer]

Anyone else get the feeling Brodie Smith had a hard talk with the coaches in the lead up to the Carlton game.

Rewatched his game and he was playing like he'd been given the "just so you know, your spots not guaranteed" chat.

I think it's more that Carlton are Bad and more specifically Voss is a bad coach and made zero adjustments from the last loss to Adelaide. Smith tore it up against them last time and was allowed similar latitude this time.

You'll note Keays was permitted to kick 3 goals vs Carlton the previous time out. In the following 7 games in the same role he manage a grand total of one goal in all them combined. Then he plays Carlton again and kicks another 3 goals.

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

I disagree. It wasn't so much that we wouldn't rest players. Rather, we would play them injured (Tex's foot) rather than sit them out, thereby not playing our best team. And hampering development of the draftees.

That's literally not resting them

 

[Mutineer]

Burgess has said in his injury update today Worrell will return through the SANFL

 

[Gtowncrow]

Nah, doubt this .... having three hammy's over the PS ....he'll need to play 2-3 games of SANFL at a lower pace, to build confidence by Worrell

He'll understand that too

Yep. My bad.
I meant generally not this week.
Confusing grammar...

 

[ams4crows]

He’s had some poor games here and there but I also think that they way some around here like to heap the blame mostly on Butts when his KPF opponent kicks a few snags is funny..

Half of the time that opposition KPF has been free to lead into massive holes in our defensive 50 that havent been plugged by our mids mostly due to laziness..

The competitions best KPF’s cant be stopped by one person. It needs to be a full team effort and that starts further up the ground.

The KPD is the very last line in the defense in trying to stop blokes like McKay, Curnow, Lynch, Tex, King bros, Fog, Hawkins etc etc.. if the guys further up the field are failing in their duties and not getting back to plug holes in the D50 then the poor KPD is always going to struggle no matter how fxxkn good a KPD he is…

It may be because we went from Rutten AA into Talia AA perhaps people's standards are high but compared to some other clubs Butts is doing well for his age and development stage