Strategy Changes Round 2 Fremantle vs. Sydney

[jusjoshin]

Would you stick Pav in the ruck Robert Walls?

I think a 43yo Pav may have given us more on the w/e.

 

[swanny1234]

I reckon Treacy averages more goals playing as the ruck tbh (3 against Brissy, 4 against Richmond, both spring to mind)

This isn't without Treacy, this is with Treacy rucking for part of the game

Voss second ruck over Treacy, Treacy is too valuable up forward. Tell Voss to compete, a la Lachie Keefe against Max last week. That's all we need from the 2nd ruck.

 

[RobsJourney]

Hey Freo fans how far off is Bolton?

I'm one in the camp of win-win situation that he left, no hard feelings for me, and I wanna see the Dockers do well, so very interested to follow his progress with you.

For mine, he's a midfielder that should rest forward rather than the other way around, he basically carried our midfield in 2020 when Edwards and Prestia stayed behind in VIC, and Cotchin got injured. I'm assuming you'll play him as a forward/mid though given you're stacked for talent in the centre?

 

[freo_leo29]

Voss second ruck over Treacy, Treacy is too valuable up forward. Tell Voss to compete, a la Lachie Keefe against Max last week. That's all we need from the 2nd ruck.

Treacy is most valuable where the footy is

Amiss and Voss can be the big dogs for 5 mins a quarter when treacy is rucking

 

[Taylor]

Putting Treacy in the ruck would be like offering one of our most important players to the opposition to jump and put a knee into from one of their least impact players.

If Treacy is taking contested marks for fun out there, they will try and remove him from the game with a flying knee.

Putting him in the ruck just seems like asking for trouble.

 

[Docker82]

Mind you he was also considerably shite during ports finals series

Port delisted two players that played for them in that finals series.

Their bottom six was genuinely holding them back despite a strong top end.

Narkle is the type that plays five games tops if your list (not just your top 5-6) is much good. TBF I'm not sure if expect much more than that from him. Shouldn't be in the frame except for the occasional sub appearance once the best 22 boys return.

 

[swanny1234]

Treacy is most valuable where the footy is

Amiss and Voss can be the big dogs for 5 mins a quarter when treacy is rucking

I don't want Treacy copping a knee in the ruck and getting injured - Voss will compete fine.

 

[AstonSouffle]

Hey Freo fans how far off is Bolton?

I'm one in the camp of win-win situation that he left, no hard feelings for me, and I wanna see the Dockers do well, so very interested to follow his progress with you.

For mine, he's a midfielder that should rest forward rather than the other way around, he basically carried our midfield in 2020 when Edwards and Prestia stayed behind in VIC, and Cotchin got injured. I'm assuming you'll play him as a forward/mid though given you're stacked for talent in the centre?

Apparently as soon as this week - mind you if we keep playing this chip chip around the backline then launch into a hot potato handball chain... doubt it's getting anywhere near Bolton.

 

[Docker82]

Fringe players struggle normally, with out a preseason they will drop a level. The best we can hope from Narkle is to be a solid player and hope some small forwards come back soon.

With injuries atm I think being a player that can play small forward and play it slightly above WAFL standard gets him a game tbh.

Obviously not ideal but building a list with 4-5 AFL capable small/medium forwards probably isn't realistic if you want to have much depth elsewhere on your list.

 

[Taylor]

In the finals Port won, Narkle had 1 score involvement. In the final they lost, he had 4.

 

[freo_leo29]

Putting Treacy in the ruck would be like offering one of our most important players to the opposition to jump and put a knee into from one of their least impact players.

If Treacy is taking contested marks for fun out there, they will try and remove him from the game with a flying knee.

Putting him in the ruck just seems like asking for trouble.

I suppose we shouldn't put Jackson in the ruck either then?

Wouldn't want to risk Darcy in the ruck when he gets back either...

 

[Taylor]

I suppose we shouldn't put Jackson in the ruck either then?

Wouldn't want to risk Darcy in the ruck when he gets back either...

I'll kindly refer you to the Carlton game where Sean Darcy raised a knee in the first contest against Pittonett and ruled him out of footy for months.

Darcy's primary influence in the side is in the ruck, it's not outside of it. Similar to Jackson, their primary influence is on ball.

Treacy's best work is not there. Putting him there adds significant risk to a key part of our structure.

 

[freo_leo29]

I'll kindly refer you to the Carlton game where Sean Darcy raised a knee in the first contest against Pittonett and ruled him out of footy for months.

Darcy's primary influence in the side is in the ruck, it's not outside of it. Similar to Jackson, their primary influence is on ball.

Treacy's best work is not there. Putting him there adds significant risk to a key part of our structure.

No more risk than playing Darcy or Jackson there, both are significant to our key structures


I'd prefer to field the best team that could win, not try to preemptively avoid injuries


Treacy has performed very well as a fwd/ruck in the past, we played Reidy in that role last week and it was a massive downgrade, lets put Treacy there and start winning games.

 

[Dale147]

 

[go_the_dockers]

With injuries atm I think being a player that can play small forward and play it slightly above WAFL standard gets him a game tbh.

Obviously not ideal but building a list with 4-5 AFL capable small/medium forwards probably isn't realistic if you want to have much depth elsewhere on your list.

agree. He just needs to hold the fort, until reinforcements come.

 

[Taylor]

No more risk than playing Darcy or Jackson there, both are significant to our key structures


I'd prefer to field the best team that could win, not try to preemptively avoid injuries


Treacy has performed very well as a fwd/ruck in the past, we played Reidy in that role last week and it was a massive downgrade, lets put Treacy there and start winning games.

Treacy injured costs us our best forward and the ruck role he is shoe horned into.

As you saw end of last year, we need either the tall defenders spoiling the long kicks, or our own talls taking those marks to win. Treacy is critical to us in the marks department.

Throw someone else at the ruck. I don't want to drive my ferrari on the beach.

 

[swanny1234]

No more risk than playing Darcy or Jackson there, both are significant to our key structures


I'd prefer to field the best team that could win, not try to preemptively avoid injuries


Treacy has performed very well as a fwd/ruck in the past, we played Reidy in that role last week and it was a massive downgrade, lets put Treacy there and start winning games.

I don't see what Treacy does in the ruck that Voss can't do - they're similar heights, similar builds and Treacy is a better forward, so throw Pat in there, ask him to compete whenever Jacko needs a spell. Blokes a competitor too, he would relish it.

 

[freo_leo29]

Fyfe needs another week

Bolton is in

 

[Wizard]

Fyfe needs another week

Bolton is in

Is that from the presser?

 

[freo_leo29]

Treacy injured costs us our best forward and the ruck role he is shoe horned into.

As you saw end of last year, we need either the tall defenders spoiling the long kicks, or our own talls taking those marks to win. Treacy is critical to us in the marks department.

Throw someone else at the ruck. I don't want to drive my ferrari on the beach.

Why are you assuming he is going to be injured, thats the issue

Don't go into a game assuming a player will get injured


Go into a game picking the best team to win

 

[freo_leo29]

Is that from the presser?

Yeah,

Aish down the pecking order

 

[freo_leo29]

Be some changes but largely trust the group

Not going to throw the gameplan or preseason out the window

Can't tell how many changes there will be but we aren't overreacting

 

[Wizard]

Yeah,

Aish down the pecking order

Weird that guys can suddenly jump him without actually doing anything to jump him. I'm looking at you Karl Worner.

 

[freo_leo29]

Actually Bolton might not be in, misheard JL's reply was to the question "if he was selected"


He needs to get thru main training to actually be in

 

[freo_leo29]

Narkle not in the mix yet, interrupted preseason