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On The Roar Deal both Dom and Fish saying that they would omit McKenna and keep Brain in the side if they were selecting the team for this game.
He's clearly sruggling in general.They've been questioning McKennas spot for a while like most people
They release tickets that are not used, so you should be able to get a single ticket if you keep on logging on.I'm not sure if there's an appropriate place to post, I want to try and get a single ticket to Sunday's game but looks to be sold out. Is there a space on BF where members sell there tickets?
Sharp in for Cameron. He’s been playing a half forward role really well in the reserves. Has the engine to help defensively which is important against their quick transition.
I really think they should, just to again get it documented that they say his tackle was not the action of a reasonable player (or however they phrased it). Absolute rubbishWell GWS is appealing the Bedford ruling. Let's see if Lions appeal the Charlie ruling.
Let's go. We're appealing it.Well GWS is appealing the Bedford ruling. Let's see if Lions appeal the Charlie ruling.
We should be arguing against the tribunal's reasoning that both Duggan's arms were pinned. This is factually incorrect; his left arm was never pinned and could have been used to break his own fall.That excessive force is something we can potentially argue against. If you want to use excess force you need to build momentum. If Cameron was pushing back on a straight line taking 4-5 steps with his body as a leverage, you can argue momentum. I can't see anyone building momentum while stepping haphazardly all over the place, with their feet barely on the ground and clinging on to someone.
Is Ralph that dense that he can’t see Duggan trying to lift and twist Cameron and throw him down and where does that self entitled smug prick get off saying Charlie rammed him down. Racist campaigner.
He will consider himself justified considering the tribunal and his thoughts aligned.Is Ralph that dense that he can’t see Duggan trying to lift and twist Cameron and throw him down and where does that self entitled smug prick get off saying Charlie rammed him down. Racist campaigner.
Given how much he appears with him on TV, god I wish Jono Brown would call this VFL apologist twat out.
He really is the most egotistical of all the journalists. Thinks he knows it all but actually has no real understanding of the game at all. Just a mouthpiece of the AFL.
Reads to me as though he is saying Bedford was unlucky.
could be argued with constant media reporting they are possibly influencing proceedings before they are finalised. As I posted yesterday, should be some restrictions on what footy commentators can say before at least the Monday and really until the matter is finalised. Then analyse the matter as much as you want Ralph.He will consider himself justified considering the tribunal and his thoughts aligned.
Like all your points except the last one, headgear does nothing to mitigate concussion, the brain still rattles around the skull if subject to impact.I wonder where this all ends with tackling.
Clearly the AFL has a supreme court case against it for concussion and there are any number of players lining up for their cut $ which is historically fair enough. The AFL need to do anything it can to mitigate payouts and restrict the reasoning that not enough has been done, or is being done. Any concussion seems now to be classified as 'someone's' fault and I can see why the AFL would not want anything classified as, "part of the game" or a "football action" that would not bode well when compensation is being discussed - the admission no one is at fault and the game has dangerous elements is not an argument they want..
But, what will we see now? players running where they are pumping their arms hard held against their sides so the tackling player can't separate the arms from the body - at least easily. Players will be taught, when holding the ball to keep their elbows in, this will be like sitting with mum and dad at the dinner table again and eating 'properly' with the elbows in.
To me we should take a view of these ruling and see what the change of behaviour will be after the next pre-season when clubs have really had time to change and practice behaviour. Will we see the tackle be an attempt to grab at the ball carrying arm only, that could pull some shoulders out of place. Will we see the tackle become for an open handed slap at the ball carrying arm and a whole heap of arguments about hand open, hand closed and intent. Will we see players drive into a tackle trying to grab the ball holding arm and effectively trying to punch the spare arm upward and out of the way - I can see plenty of shoulders popping that way. Wrapping both arms has its benefits in protecting the shoulders but exposes the head to the whiplash type injury.
For me - let's leave the tackle alone, it's a skill, just change the rule that after any player's first concussion they must wear headgear in every game from then on in their career. That way the AFL has their defence and the players and fans have their game back where attack and defence are appreciated equally.
But as I asked earlier; what purpose does it serve giving a player three matches for unintentional football acts. I mean if you only gave them one week; is a court case seriously going to turn on that. Highly unlikely.I wonder where this all ends with tackling.
Clearly the AFL has a supreme court case against it for concussion and there are any number of players lining up for their cut $ which is historically fair enough. The AFL need to do anything it can to mitigate payouts and restrict the reasoning that not enough has been done, or is being done. Any concussion seems now to be classified as 'someone's' fault and I can see why the AFL would not want anything classified as, "part of the game" or a "football action" that would not bode well when compensation is being discussed - the admission no one is at fault and the game has dangerous elements is not an argument they want..
But, what will we see now? players running where they are pumping their arms hard held against their sides so the tackling player can't separate the arms from the body - at least easily. Players will be taught, when holding the ball to keep their elbows in, this will be like sitting with mum and dad at the dinner table again and eating 'properly' with the elbows in.
To me we should take a view of these ruling and see what the change of behaviour will be after the next pre-season when clubs have really had time to change and practice behaviour. Will we see the tackle be an attempt to grab at the ball carrying arm only, that could pull some shoulders out of place. Will we see the tackle become for an open handed slap at the ball carrying arm and a whole heap of arguments about hand open, hand closed and intent. Will we see players drive into a tackle trying to grab the ball holding arm and effectively trying to punch the spare arm upward and out of the way - I can see plenty of shoulders popping that way. Wrapping both arms has its benefits in protecting the shoulders but exposes the head to the whiplash type injury.
For me - let's leave the tackle alone, it's a skill, just change the rule that after any player's first concussion they must wear headgear in every game from then on in their career. That way the AFL has their defence and the players and fans have their game back where attack and defence are appreciated equally.
Case in point the NRL players Kalyn Ponga and Luke Keary.Like all your points except the last one, headgear does nothing to mitigate concussion, the brain still rattles around the skull if subject to impact.
It's a false peace of mind for the player.
The bolded is a really important point.I wonder where this all ends with tackling.
Clearly the AFL has a supreme court case against it for concussion and there are any number of players lining up for their cut $ which is historically fair enough. The AFL need to do anything it can to mitigate payouts and restrict the reasoning that not enough has been done, or is being done. Any concussion seems now to be classified as 'someone's' fault and I can see why the AFL would not want anything classified as, "part of the game" or a "football action" that would not bode well when compensation is being discussed - the admission no one is at fault and the game has dangerous elements is not an argument they want..
But, what will we see now? players running where they are pumping their arms hard held against their sides so the tackling player can't separate the arms from the body - at least easily. Players will be taught, when holding the ball to keep their elbows in, this will be like sitting with mum and dad at the dinner table again and eating 'properly' with the elbows in.
To me we should take a view of these ruling and see what the change of behaviour will be after the next pre-season when clubs have really had time to change and practice behaviour. Will we see the tackle be an attempt to grab at the ball carrying arm only, that could pull some shoulders out of place. Will we see the tackle become for an open handed slap at the ball carrying arm and a whole heap of arguments about hand open, hand closed and intent. Will we see players drive into a tackle trying to grab the ball holding arm and effectively trying to punch the spare arm upward and out of the way - I can see plenty of shoulders popping that way. Wrapping both arms has its benefits in protecting the shoulders but exposes the head to the whiplash type injury.
For me - let's leave the tackle alone, it's a skill, just change the rule that after any player's first concussion they must wear headgear in every game from then on in their career. That way the AFL has their defence and the players and fans have their game back where attack and defence are appreciated equally.
Plus Angus BrayshawCase in point the NRL players Kalyn Ponga and Luke Keary.