List Mgmt. Collingwood Trade Talk 2016 part 2 - see Mod Warning p 281

[TradeDraft]

Anything exciting?

No Real Update then what been Posted

 

[TradeDraft]

Anything noteworthy and new?

The old incognito move doesn't seem to work for me anymore.

Just about how we are Chasing Wells

 

[Old Spice]

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-ne...north-melbourne-veterans-20160911-grdmj6.html

 

[Hardas]

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-ne...north-melbourne-veterans-20160911-grdmj6.html

Sòooo, to summarise the article by Gleeson and Baum:
Wells is 'seriously contemplating a strong push from Collingwood'...
we are 'among several teams to have met with ... Mayne'...
and 'The Magpies are also very keen on ... Marchbank'.
Meanwhile, on the other side of the ledger:
(Free agency) 'could also see ...Nathan Brown move to Arden Street'.

 

[DAWESOME!!]

Sòooo, to summarise the article by Gleeson and Baum:
Wells is 'seriously contemplating a strong push from Collingwood'...
we are 'among several teams to have met with ... Mayne'...
and 'The Magpies are also very keen on ... Marchbank'.
Meanwhile, on the other side of the ledger:
(Free agency) 'could also see ...Nathan Brown move to Arden Street'.

I like seeing Marchbank as a name more than a few others we've been linked to. He'll probably go to Carlton, but let's make sure they pay full price.

 

[Hardas]

I like seeing Marchbank as a name more than a few others we've been linked to. He'll probably go to Carlton, but let's make sure they pay full price.

Yep, likely Carlton, as we keep hearing, but if we really do rate him highly (never seen him myself) maybe we can push it along. I guess it depends on other potential trades and what GWS might think of Witts.

 

[jjsmitty8]

Has Tomlinson re-signed or just stated his intentions to stay? Just can't remember.

 

[Kappa]

Has Tomlinson re-signed or just stated his intentions to stay? Just can't remember.

99% sure he re-signed with GWS a week or two ago.

 

[loki04]

So you're saying footy recruiting is not like art where all opinions are equally valid? Interesting.

Im saying that what a recruiter looks for may not be what you or I look for.

Not saying anyones veiw is right or wrong but DIFFERING perspectives.

 

[Vicky Park]

Some of the rants and melts have been very wearing already...

Strap yourself in, we've only just started.

 

[Pedro]

If Wells could replicate his 2016 next year with us, it would improve us enormously. Who gets tagged? Wells, Pendlebury, Treloar, Sidebottom? Can't tag them all. He will cop it every week at North. Having said that, I imagine he will come to terms at NM. Again, probably just Collingwood being used to leverage a better deal. And with the PR disaster of Harvey etc being let go, I doubt NM will allow Wells to waltz out the door to a rival for free.

 

[Captain Embubry]

A lot of people complaining on potentially recruiting older players. I dont see the issue. We've lost a lot of experience at the older end of the team, if we get some quality old blokes cheap for 1-2 years it puts pressure on the young kids to perform to take their spot. Blokes like De Goey will have to step their game up even more to not be pushed aside by Wells/Mayne.

Its too widely accepted that young guys should just be played and given experience, thats all well and good, but they also have to earn a spot. Do you think someone like NDS would be pissed off half way through next season getting dropped because Smith/Sinclair/Ramsey/Sharenberg types have worked their arse off to take their game to a new level to push him out of the side?

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[Scodog10]

Wells is a straight up replacement for Swan and is there anyone out there that honestly didn't want Swan to go on?

A guy that's equally capable inside and out, he adds a bit of silk through the middle and will find it 20+ times a week. If his body checks out this one works for me and if his current club are offering 2 years at $1.1 million I'd be pretty confident he's going to get through a medical.

 

[soreplums]

Anyone else think that if Swan played this year that we would of snuck into the 8?

 

[Scodog10]

Anyone else think that if Swan played this year that we would of snuck into the 8?

It's a no for me unfortunately we were a long way off it!

I also neglected to mention that bringing Wells in probably squeezes Greenwood out of a midfield role which will be a massive bonus.

 

[soreplums]

It's a no for me unfortunately we were a long way off it!

I also neglected to mention that bringing Wells in probably squeezes Greenwood out of a midfield role which will be a massive bonus.

Swan could have been the difference in games we lost to:
Carlton, Hawks, dogs x2 and tigers.

5 wins

 

[ThePhantom777]

Anyone else think that if Swan played this year that we would of snuck into the 8?

Maybe. But they planned on playing him forward which I don't think would have been great.

 

[Scodog10]

Swan could have been the difference in games we lost to:
Carlton, Hawks, dogs x2 and tigers.

5 wins

This isn't the NBA lol. One man can't have that much impact unless their name is Dangerfield!

It would also be a horrible sign for the list that 5 wins came on the back of a 32yo. If you'd like to look for five more wins I can highlight 3 areas for you.

1. Red time goals
2. Defensive structure/ zoning early season
3. Clearance work

That stuffs fixable so vastly more crucial to improved performance than a focus on one man being the difference.

Edit: I think I know where you're going with it and you don't need to convince me.

 

[Hagla]

I met Swanny in my dream last night. I asked him how he thought we'd go and reminded him to be honest, he replied "depends what insert incoherent mumbling of name here does". Satisfied with his answer I proceeded to climb the pole in front of him so that my feet were at about the same height as his head, I then accidentally dangled them in his face, at this point I realised I had no shoes on and I apologised profusely. I was so embarrassed and keen to move the conversation on so I asked him if he knew a player and that I got on the piss with him last off season.

At this point I woke up and tried to remember who he'd said it would depend what he does but it was already too late, that part of the dream was already becoming a blur. Anyway, still some tasty morsels in there for those keen to sink their teeth into a few whispers.

Edit: oh he also said something about De Goey at some stage, to which I laughed and pretty much just asked a question to confirm I was picking up what he was putting down. At this point Swanny just went quiet, I assume because he knew I was going to tell someone.

 

[soreplums]

Maybe. But they planned on playing him forward which I don't think would have been great.

He would have still had some minutes in the middle. We had enough forward entries, just didn't capitalise enough.

 

[unplugged]

If Wells came across and plays a few games of similar quality to the one he played against us this year, it'll help us snag an extra win or two. In which case it's a yes from me.

As for anyone saying any potential trade reeks of desperation from Buckley, don't be stupid. The list management team wouldn't let a senior coach risk the next 5 years just to "make a final" or two.

 

[Snoop Dog]

If Wells could replicate his 2016 next year with us, it would improve us enormously. Who gets tagged? Wells, Pendlebury, Treloar, Sidebottom? Can't tag them all. He will cop it every week at North. Having said that, I imagine he will come to terms at NM. Again, probably just Collingwood being used to leverage a better deal. And with the PR disaster of Harvey etc being let go, I doubt NM will allow Wells to waltz out the door to a rival for free.

Unless they end up thinking that they need hartlett in and want to swing at an OMeara and hence need the $$

 

[Snoop Dog]

If Wells came across and plays a few games of similar quality to the one he played against us this year, it'll help us snag an extra win or two. In which case it's a yes from me.

As for anyone saying any potential trade reeks of desperation from Buckley, don't be stupid. The list management team wouldn't let a senior coach risk the next 5 years just to "make a final" or two.

What if it is the coach and the president pushing for it?

The real issue in getting Wells / NDS / Mayne for me is whose expense is it at.

So if Wells comes are we happy that effectively may push Broomhead out the door?

 

[Anzacday]

So if Wells comes are we happy that effectively may push Broomhead out the door?

Maybe it's the other way around.

 

[Old Spice]

North need to decide if they are rebuiding or not.