Game Day Collingwood v Brisbane, Gabba, 6 April, 7.45pm

[cakewalk06]

Gotta be Frampton for the main ruck surely. I'd rather leave him back to see what he can do after a good showing last week, but at least he is a mature body. I don't think they can chuck Steene into the cauldron though he seems like he has a bit of mongrel.
McStay could do it also but i think our forward line structure is looking pretty good with him in there. Times like there you wish we had a real s***-truck like Leigh Brown, Q Stick, even Jesse White

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to throw in there.
The good news is the Big O for the Lions is not generally the crash and bash type like that Swans brute who just used to knee Grundy in the back at every turn and jump into him at the bounces.

 

[Chrispiesssss]

 

[Apex36]

Realistically, I dont like our chances here. Lions on the rebound, at home. & Us without Cameron, who has been extremely valuable whilst playing. Dont really want to upset our structure too much, but think Reef has to come in and go forward, with McStay, Billy, and Ash sharing ruck duties.

FTR, I also didnt like our hubris on the weekend. Weak Richmond side, and we couldnt convert, put them away, deal with their increased pressure well, getting caught too often etc. Think they have been reading the globetrotter headlines a bit too much, and said, "yep, thats us... Fly has given us the license to bring on showtime". Wouldve preferred Fly to say "Right, forget the headlines, lets make this a clinical but blue collar effort, to show we're about making smart decisions, not just fancy ones to show off our skills". Hope that gets rectified this week

Go Pies

Think you’re being overly harsh here. Richmond are one of the best defensive pressure sides in the comp, and have been one of the best wet weather sides in the comp for the past 5 years too. We still managed to deal with the increased pressure and wet weather. Had our conversion been at an average AFL level we’d have had another very comfortable win, but it wasn’t, and that had nothing to do with drinking our own bath water. It’s just something that happens every now and then.
We’ll inevitably have some close games, and inevitably lose some games. No need to slam the players to such an extent because not everything went our way.

 

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So McRae has already squashed my opinion that Frampton shouldn't venture away from his one role which should be to play on Daniher, unless he's strictly a D50 ruck option.

Perhaps Maynard might be in for a big job on one of Daniher or Hipwood from time to time?

 

[Doc1763]

Gotta be Frampton for the main ruck surely. I'd rather leave him back to see what he can do after a good showing last week, but at least he is a mature body. I don't think they can chuck Steene into the cauldron though he seems like he has a bit of mongrel.
McStay could do it also but i think our forward line structure is looking pretty good with him in there. Times like there you wish we had a real s***-truck like Leigh Brown, Q Stick, even Jesse White to throw in there.
The good news is the Big O for the Lions is not generally the crash and bash type like that Swans brute who just used to knee Grundy in the back at every turn and jump into him at the bounces.

Leroy would have scared the crap out of the Big O.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

My guess is Carmichael stays the sub because he can play forward and mid.

So if we need to do some shifting around to cover the ruck, we have a sub that can play in the most likely position where the move gets made.

Wilson and Ruscoe being taller options might arguably be more likely to fill those gaps though if we lose a tall during the game which further undermines our ruck dilemma.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

So McRae has already squashed my opinion that Frampton shouldn't venture away from his one role which should be to play on Daniher, unless he's strictly a D50 ruck option.

Perhaps Maynard might be in for a big job on one of Daniher or Hipwood from time to time?

Maynard/ Murphy could easily handle hipwood. Moore theoretically the matchup for Daniher but playing undersized on him and capitalising on his klutziness is also an option.

 

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I know everyone wants WHE dropped but with the forced change of Cameron, perhaps we need to stick fat until there's a legitimate direct swap option available, ie Allen when he's ready.

At this stage I'd just swap Cameron out for McInnes and as for the sub it could be anyone fresh enough out of Saturday night that's likely to make an impact if required, which probably only really leaves Carmichael or Wilson.

Not sure if Macrae, Ginnivan and co are legitimate tactical sub options.

 

[Harry O]

So McRae has already squashed my opinion that Frampton shouldn't venture away from his one role which should be to play on Daniher, unless he's strictly a D50 ruck option.

Perhaps Maynard might be in for a big job on one of Daniher or Hipwood from time to time?

Murphy played on the gorillas quite a bit last year

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

I know everyone wants WHE dropped but with the forced change of Cameron, perhaps we need to stick fat until there's a legitimate direct swap option available, ie Allen when he's ready.

At this stage I'd just swap Cameron out for McInnes and as for the sub it could be anyone fresh enough out of Saturday night that's likely to make an impact if required, which probably only really leaves Carmichael or Wilson.

Not sure if Macrae, Ginnivan and co are legitimate tactical sub options.

If frampton rucks which has been as good as telegraphed it will be unfair to expect him to also play key defence. In fact it would be highly unusual to have one ruckman resting forward while the other ruckman rests back. So it’s a selection dilemma…. We might need a defender to come into replace Cameron, not a forward.

Unless…. We just have frampton take the hitouts in D50 and mcstay/ Johnson share F50 and midfield hitouts . That will still leave us a tall man down at the D50 hitouts though.

 

[Harry O]

Maynard/ Murphy could easily handle hipwood. Moore theoretically the matchup for Daniher but playing undersized on him and capitalising on his klutziness is also an option.

Hipwood will need a spare nappy handy if Bruzzy takes him

 

[Scodog10]

Going by the review of last nights game seems like Steene's not ready, especially against Mcinerney he will outbody him with ease and will punch it far out of the contest so our midfielders can't get to the ball.

Atleast with Mcstay he creates a decent contest, bring the ball to ground and let our midfielders get to work.

Think in last years finals game against Melbourne he was one of their BOG as the predominant ruck with Big O out. Correct me if i'm wrong.

In the context of Saturday night Steene was fine. Naismith is by far the best state league ruckman in the country and is only out of the system because of the horror run he’s had with his knees (honestly I’d have preferred him over Markov). Steene went with him around the ground and was competitive enough at stoppage to prevent Naismith putting it wherever he wanted. If the club take that path in order to maintain our structure forward of the ball I’ll be in support

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

Hipwood will need a spare nappy handy if Bruzzy takes him

You reckon Murphy wouldn’t scare him?

 

[Football God]

I reckon Murphy would be a good matchup on Hipwood, he would piss him off so much lol.

 

[#23 Hill]

Expected top of 28 in Brisbane this Thursday. Cloudy. No rain. It'll be around 23 when the players take to the ground at around 7pm. So it should be perfect conditions for our running game.

 

[neilk]

We have to avoid just bombing it in long or Harris Andrews

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will have a field day. He took 16 marks against the Bulldogs.

 

[KrispyKremePie]

 

[No SPIN]

Definitely keep Frampton in the backline for the reasons already mentioned.

Something different, why not Tom Wilson in the ruck for half a game? Will lose the taps but taller than Johnson and offers a bit around the ground, if it all turns to sh*t then sub Reef to go forward and McStay to the ruck for only a half.

AJ has a much better leap and so would lose less contests than TW. TW would have to have another significant compensating advantage over AJ but I can't think of one.

 

[Ugene41]

I know everyone wants WHE dropped but with the forced change of Cameron, perhaps we need to stick fat until there's a legitimate direct swap option available, ie Allen when he's ready.

At this stage I'd just swap Cameron out for McInnes and as for the sub it could be anyone fresh enough out of Saturday night that's likely to make an impact if required, which probably only really leaves Carmichael or Wilson.

Not sure if Macrae, Ginnivan and co are legitimate tactical sub options.

WHE would be the perfect sub. Experienced, versatile and also not robbing kids of development time playing full matches either AFL/VFL.

 

[live fast pieyoung]

I know everyone wants WHE dropped but with the forced change of Cameron, perhaps we need to stick fat until there's a legitimate direct swap option available, ie Allen when he's ready.

At this stage I'd just swap Cameron out for McInnes and as for the sub it could be anyone fresh enough out of Saturday night that's likely to make an impact if required, which probably only really leaves Carmichael or Wilson.

Not sure if Macrae, Ginnivan and co are legitimate tactical sub options.

Agree with this about WHE. For all the WHE haters, he plays a specialist role, he wont be getting dropped until his replacement is ready, which is Allen. There isnt anyone in the 2s that can match WHE's tank, and Allen is the only one so far they have said is going to get there.

 

[Bianconeri]

Where's the actual evidence that Mihocek and Cox/Johnson have been freed up?

Mason Cox has scored 3 goals in two games after barely hitting the scoreboard last season whilst Mihocek is currently averaging 2 goals a game the highest in his career.

 

[neilk]

It would be wonderful if we could hear the questions being asked.

 

[The Royal Sampler]

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will have a field day. He took 16 marks against the Bulldogs.

Correct! Although only 6 of those were intercept marks.

 

[Big Bryza]

In an interview earlier in the year, Wright also brought up Frampton.

I think the option of Frampton in the ruck will be explored at some point in the next month. However, i think this week they'll go the makeshift duo of AJ/Mcstay allowing Frampton to settle in further to his role in the D50. Mcinnes comes in to play forward. I think the biggest issue with no ruckman is that we lose Cameron and Cox's contested marking around the ground. For mine, we have to play even more chaotic with less kicking to contests than normal. It's going to be mighty fun to watch, that is for sure.

 

[Big Bryza]

My best guess is they are going to put Frampton in the ruck, WHE down back and bring in Ginnivan, but I hope I'm wrong.

Reef has to be miles ahead of Ginny in the pecking order to play forward.