List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Edition

[Keys]

The Contracts Thread

Current contract status (Updated 26/6/24) : Total 45 Players - Main List (37) Rookie List (6) Cat B (2) Contracted to 2027 (3) : Tom Barrass (8/10/95) - Signed a 5 year extension (2023-27) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in December 2021 Reuben Ginbey (10/9/04) - Signed a 3 year...

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[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Both have spent significant time on the sidelines since being drafted. Development wise, both are effectively still first year players. Jones and Rotham only have contracts as they will be depth players from next year onwards.

Who else is left to delist is the thing if/when those 2 get contracts

Witho (will get a contract)
Gaff (gone)
Burgiel
H.Edwards
L.Edwards
J.Williams (has to stay?)
Culley (rookie)
Jones (Simmo wants to keep)
Baker (rookie)
Rotham (Simmo wants to keep)
Dewar (rookie)
Trew (rookie

If 6 go (so ideally Baker, Cummings in and 4 picks) then thats 4 left on main list left to delist in Simmos fanciful world where he wants to keep Rotham and Jones and Burgiel is one of those 4 im afraid

 

[Obeanie1]

People gotta sit up and admit

Its dire and ugly when you got 2 players you want on the delist pile in Jones and Rotham so close to the coaches best 25.....

Im a tad concerned myself that both get contract extensions at the expense of younger players we should be keeping.

To me it almost feels like the writing is on the wall for both Burgiel and Culley given the situation at present, which is insanely dumb, but here we are

Both are UFA's.

If the kids aren't ready they need to get better.

 

[Barrybran]

Who else is left to delist is the thing if/when those 2 get contracts

Witho (will get a contract)
Gaff (gone)
Burgiel
H.Edwards
L.Edwards
J.Williams (has to stay?)
Culley (rookie)
Jones (Simmo wants to keep)
Baker (rookie)
Rotham (Simmo wants to keep)
Dewar (rookie)
Trew (rookie

If 6 go (so ideally Baker, Cummings in and 4 picks) then thats 4 left on main list left to delist in Simmos fanciful world where he wants to keep Rotham and Jones and Burgiel is one of those 4 im afraid

Gaff, LEdwards, Jones and Trew are the obvious ones to me. Jones is playing because clearly those behind him aren't ready yet but Baker makes him obsolete. Culley may be unlucky by virtue of the fact that he is now third in line at his best position and further down the line as a midfielder.

That's 5. If Cumming comes in then I don't see why we would extend Rotham.

The smokey to me is Bailey Williams. Sure, he's just signed a two-year extension but he doesn't fit long term. He's not a forward and while he gets beat up in the ruck, he has come a long way in the last two years. His value is at its highest and being Victorian, there will be a market for him. I don't know that I see anything happening in that space but pending what the club thinks about Archer Reid's development and role, Williams might not be here beyond that contract anyway.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Both ate UFA's.

If the kids aren't ready they need to get better.

Do you believe last game Jones showed more then Culley in terms of playing this week?


Thats the most worrying part of it all.... Culley earnt a spot over Jones yet didnt keep it

 

[1Bally1]

Have you noted the mountain of 2nd and 3rd round picks Richmond hold to balance the trade and provide the Suns with the points they need?

Plus we would need to add a 2nd and a player.

Change it to
wce trade 3, 23 future 2nd and Bailey Williams.

Richmond trade baker, green and Rioli pick 22

Gold Coast trade 9 and 10

WCE get 9, 10, 22 baker and green

Suns get Rioli, 23 and future 2nd

Richmond get pick 3 and Bailey Williams.

 

[Bleedblueandgold]

Don't think it's looking particularly good for Culley getting another year with him getting 1 game and being omitted immediately despite barely any mids available.
He could've hardly had done any more in the WAFL to earn a game but was dropped after hardly given an opportunity like Trew.
Probably means he isn't in the clubs current or future plans with his skillset or attributes.
Best case scenario is being given the Trew treatment with another year on the rookie list and languishing in the WAFL.
Only chance for him is to find another position since it seems the club doesn't see him as a midfield option in the AFL.

 

[eaglevision]

I don’t think GCS will pay what Richmond will ask for Rioli, assuming he even wants to leave. GCS need 1R picks for their NGA next year, a simple swap of our F1 for Pick 9 and 10 might be more appealing. I’d be fine finishing 17th and going to the draft with 2,9,10,22,58 and putting a broom through the list.

2-FOS
9-Travaglia
10-Lalor
22-Lindsay/Mraz
58-Champion match (trade F4 also)
Rookie-Dennis
F2-Busslinger
FA-Cumming

Delist:
Rotham, LEdwards, Jones, Gaff, Witherden, HEdwards, Trew, Baker, Rawlinson

Trade options
Petruccelle, BWilliams, Barrass

Would give us 38 main list, 4 Cat As and 2 Cat Bs provided we Maric spends one more year as a rookie and can get Culley, Burgiel or JWilliams to re-sign as a rookie.

 

[WCErevival]

Do you believe last game Jones showed more then Culley in terms of playing this week?


Thats the most worrying part of it all.... Culley earnt a spot over Jones yet didnt keep it

They were basically the same in disposals and Jones had 5 tackles to Culleys 0. I wouldnt say Culley earnt it over him. Neither are long term options anyway so no point getting worked up over it.

 

[ArdentEagle]

They seem big on him internally from what I've been told - not sure if they're just spinning his wheels though



No idea on the method of acquiring him - that will depend on Richmond

Based on nothing more than gut feel...I have a very strong feeling that we're going to do something radical.

Something like Pick 3 for Bolton, Baker and Green

 

[Ghossein]

They seem big on him internally from what I've been told - not sure if they're just spinning his wheels though



No idea on the method of acquiring him - that will depend on Richmond

If he's not offered a contract at Richmond then the club won't be looking to trade for him

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Based on nothing more than gut feel...I have a very strong feeling that we're going to do something radical.

Something like Pick 3 for Bolton, Baker and Green

No chance Richmond do that. Laughable even to suggest it. Bolton is worth pick 3 by himself

 

[Ghossein]

I reckon we trade Pick 3 for Chad Warner

1

Chad Warner

Age

23

Ht

185cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

7.0

2star

K

4.5

2star

HB

2.5

2star

M

1.5

2star

T

1.5

3star

CL

0.0

1star

D

7.0

1star

K

4.5

2star

HB

2.5

2star

M

1.5

2star

T

1.5

2star

CL

0.0

1star

D

7.0

2star

K

4.5

2star

HB

2.5

3star

M

1.5

2star

T

1.5

4star

CL

0.0

1star

, Isaac Heeney

5

Isaac Heeney

Age

28

Ht

185cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.2

5star

K

10.4

4star

HB

7.7

5star

M

4.9

5star

T

4.1

5star

CL

2.2

4star

D

14.3

3star

K

8.8

4star

HB

5.5

3star

M

4.8

4star

T

2.5

3star

CL

0.8

3star

D

10.4

3star

K

7.2

3star

HB

3.2

3star

M

2.8

3star

T

2.4

4star

CL

0.8

3star

, Nick Daicos, Marcus Bontempelli

4

Marcus Bontempelli

Age

28

Ht

194cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

22.5

5star

K

12.3

5star

HB

10.3

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

4.8

5star

CL

4.4

5star

D

18.4

4star

K

9.7

4star

HB

8.8

4star

M

2.6

3star

T

4.1

5star

CL

4.0

5star

D

12.0

3star

K

5.8

3star

HB

6.2

4star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.8

5star

CL

1.8

4star

, and Patrick Cripps

9

Patrick Cripps

Age

29

Ht

195cm

Wt

93kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

25.9

5star

K

9.8

4star

HB

16.1

5star

M

3.4

3star

T

5.8

5star

CL

7.4

5star

D

21.0

5star

K

10.1

4star

HB

10.9

5star

M

2.5

3star

T

3.8

4star

CL

6.3

5star

D

12.6

4star

K

4.8

2star

HB

7.8

5star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.2

5star

CL

1.4

4star

 

[ArdentEagle]

No chance Richmond do that. Laughable even to suggest it. Bolton is worth pick 3 by himself

This was discussed earlier in this thread, a week or two ago...I don't agree.

In saying that, if we give up 3, I'd only do it for Warner. Bird in the hand and all.

 

[mat11]

I don’t think GCS will pay what Richmond will ask for Rioli, assuming he even wants to leave. GCS need 1R picks for their NGA next year, a simple swap of our F1 for Pick 9 and 10 might be more appealing. I’d be fine finishing 17th and going to the draft with 2,9,10,22,58 and putting a broom through the list.

2-FOS
9-Travaglia
10-Lalor
22-Lindsay/Mraz
58-Champion match (trade F4 also)
Rookie-Dennis
F2-Busslinger
FA-Cumming

Delist:
Rotham, LEdwards, Jones, Gaff, Witherden, HEdwards, Trew, Baker, Rawlinson

Trade options
Petruccelle, BWilliams, Barrass

Would give us 38 main list, 4 Cat As and 2 Cat Bs provided we Maric spends one more year as a rookie and can get Culley, Burgiel or JWilliams to re-sign as a rookie.

This is where I'm at also, embarrassingly I think norf jump us and we finish 17th. 9 and 10 is a bit of a stretch unfortunately I think our f1 will only get the 9 from GC but we could maybe try f1 + 23 for GC 9 and their 20

2- fos
9- travaglia
20- best available winger or key back
Junk pics- malakai

I'd personally keep h.edwards and witherden as insurance. B.Williams only gets traded for busslinger or Baker don't think we can afford to throw our r2 or f2 away for them. I'd chuck darling in the trade pile also

I'd also like to see a revamp of the coaching staff, we are a lot better side than bottom 4

 

[CursoryMercenary]

Surely we are within our rights to ask for a compo pick, given we will likely have 3 seasons in a row with 4 wins or under?

 

[eagles rule]

Don't think it's looking particularly good for Culley getting another year with him getting 1 game and being omitted immediately despite barely any mids available.
He could've hardly had done any more in the WAFL to earn a game but was dropped after hardly given an opportunity like Trew.
Probably means he isn't in the clubs current or future plans with his skillset or attributes.
Best case scenario is being given the Trew treatment with another year on the rookie list and languishing in the WAFL.
Only chance for him is to find another position since it seems the club doesn't see him as a midfield option in the AFL.

We don’t know if Culley pulled up a little sore so the MC are being cautious..


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[Obeanie1]

Who else is left to delist is the thing if/when those 2 get contracts

Witho (will get a contract)
Gaff (gone)
Burgiel
H.Edwards
L.Edwards
J.Williams (has to stay?)
Culley (rookie)
Jones (Simmo wants to keep)
Baker (rookie)
Rotham (Simmo wants to keep)
Dewar (rookie)
Trew (rookie

If 6 go (so ideally Baker, Cummings in and 4 picks) then thats 4 left on main list left to delist in Simmos fanciful world where he wants to keep Rotham and Jones and Burgiel is one of those 4 im afraid

Why do you think Simo wants to retain Jones and Rotham?

I dont get that impression at all.

We lack depth and so they get games. Both as UFA and likely end up elsewhere or not on a list. Teams with no picks may look for a top up player to add depth.

I see both not on our list next year but both are better than the kids that need to develop and earn a game.

 

[Obeanie1]

Change it to
wce trade 3, 23 future 2nd and Bailey Williams.

Richmond trade baker, green and Rioli pick 22

Gold Coast trade 9 and 10

WCE get 9, 10, 22 baker and green

Suns get Rioli, 23 and future 2nd

Richmond get pick 3 and Bailey Williams.

Getting there.

Between the three clubs all the 2nds, 3rds in 2024 and 2025 can get shuffled around to make something work for all parties IMO.

We need a 2nd for Busslinger hopefully.

 

[Obeanie1]

Surely we are within our rights to ask for a compo pick, given we will likely have 3 seasons in a row with 4 wins or under?

Same picks North got. A F2nd and F3rd that must be traded.

 

[Elite Pete]

The Suns aren't even giving up 10 on its own for Rioli

Could if Richmond pay a fair chunk of his salary.

 

[eaglesnutcase]

If Pykey says we are going aggressive you can bet we will go for priority picks.
Norf got two end of first round comp picks that had to be traded.
Wats the bet Laura dear will change the rules this year.We will get screwed as per normal

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Pyke wants fixture concessions not priority picks. Not sure how many more times that point can be made

 

[Keys]

We won’t get any priority picks but there’s two things we should be asking for that have little or no impact on other clubs

1) Better access to NGA players which may well be addressed anyway going by recent reports
2) Two extra rookie list spots which can be argued as necessary to help with travel loads and more depth in our standalone WAFL side

Neither are particularly controversial or are a massive leg up that would give us a significant advantage over other clubs

The other thing the AFL could do in light of concerns over the drop in indigenous numbers league wide is allow a third Cat B spot to allow for the time to develop players like Dewar, Baker and Livingstone

 

[eaglevision]

This is where I'm at also, embarrassingly I think norf jump us and we finish 17th. 9 and 10 is a bit of a stretch unfortunately I think our f1 will only get the 9 from GC but we could maybe try f1 + 23 for GC 9 and their 20

2- fos
9- travaglia
20- best available winger or key back
Junk pics- malakai

I'd personally keep h.edwards and witherden as insurance. B.Williams only gets traded for busslinger or Baker don't think we can afford to throw our r2 or f2 away for them. I'd chuck darling in the trade pile also

I'd also like to see a revamp of the coaching staff, we are a lot better side than bottom 4

I reckon Richmond more likely to jump us, if they finish last I think they’ll take FOS and not Smillie. Don’t think 9/10 is a stretch and will actually be 11/12. Lombard would be perfect for us and a high 2025 1R will come at an absolute premium after the mooted NGA changes.

I think we can all read between the lines.

 

[Deplorable trumpster]

We won’t get any priority picks but there’s two things we should be asking for that have little or no impact on other clubs

1) Better access to NGA players which may well be addressed anyway going by recent reports
2) Two extra rookie list spots which can be argued as necessary to help with travel loads and more depth in our standalone WAFL side

Neither are particularly controversial or are a massive leg up that would give us a significant advantage over other clubs

The other thing the AFL could do in light of concerns over the drop in indigenous numbers league wide is allow a third Cat B spot to allow for the time to develop players like Dewar, Baker and Livingstone

Given how awfully unproductive our rookie drafting has been in recent times i am not sure getting more rookie picks would make any difference.