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  • Zane Trew, Jamaine Jones and Jordyn Baker delisted

  • List Manager Matt Clarke appeared on Gettable - Click spoiler below for summary
    On the draft: "We predicted that the draft was strong, but it's probably gotten stronger during the year."

    On top end of draft: "You could probably make five or six different choices and get it right."

    On Pick 3: "I reckon there's five (players) around that mark."

    On splitting: "I think you want to hold an early selection if you can. The depth of this group allows you to maybe have some movement there, and see what you can do to bring in more talent in the first 20-25 picks. Easier said than done, and I think most clubs would be saying the same thing. We'll see what we can do."

    On Liam Baker: "He's still yet to make a decision. They're still weighing up a few things. We'd love to get Liam on board from what he offers from a talent and leadership point of view. We understand where we're at as a group, we're rebuilding our group, we need to add some guys in the middle tier to support our young group."

    On Jack Graham: "We've got a number of players that we're speaking to. A bit of a wait and see on that one as well. We'll talk to a number of guys."

    On Shai Bolton: "I think it will be difficult for anybody, really. He's heavily contracted and a high quality player."

    On James Peatling: "He's heavily involved in a finals series at the moment so I don't want to comment too much on it, but I think there's a number of guys that have been playing really good footy this year that could suit what we do and what other clubs do. He's taken his footy to another level this year."

    On Tom Barrass: "We've had an early discussion with Hawthorn about it, they understand where we're at. He's nominated Hawthorn as his ideal destination. We want what we think he's worth, as a genuine key back in the competition that can do what he can do. We're obviously mindful of getting an appropriate deal for West Coast."

    On Tom Clurey: "Maybe (note: sounded very non enthused). We'd probably need some key back depth, whether that's through the draft or trade and free agency."

    On Jack Darling: "We've had initial discussions with his management group about (moving). We're open to talking, as we are with all of our players, but Jack's contracted with us."

    On Liam Ryan: "I expect him to be at West Coast next year, yes." (The most definitive answer of the day by a mile, a non-starter of a talking point.)

    On out of contact players e.g. Rotham, Witherden, Jones: "We're still working through what it looks like from a list point of view, and how many selections we'll want to have, and players that may come in and potentially may go out. You might want to give a coach an opportunity to look at these guys."

    On Harley Reid: "We've had discussions most of the year with his management group. I think it sits in a really good place. We're open to doing really whatever they want to do to be honest. We're really confident in building the right system around Harley, on and off field, to make sure that he's really comfortable, that he's going to play his best footy, and his long term future."

    On Jake Waterman's new deal: "Yep, really close. We're working really closely with his management on that. I expect that we'll have something done pretty soon."

    On Oscar Allen: "We've been talking with Oscar and his manager most of the year on that one. We're going through some stuff at the moment. I think we'll be ok with that one."






 
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Tell ya what, i'm a bit bummed with Norfs shit pick coming back our way for Darling. I get it's about Salary, but still.


Pick 40 was a bit too delish and probably a pipe dream.

Pick 58 seemed like a reasonable finishing point.

But pick 64 is a bit of trash.


Some might think melting about sliding 6 places on a 4th round pick is over the top. If it is, consider me Miles Davis.

Is the melt moot because that pick will be eaten up by Champion anyway? Whether it's 58 or 64?
 
Tell ya what, i'm a bit bummed with Norfs shit pick coming back our way for Darling. I get it's about Salary, but still.


Pick 40 was a bit too delish and probably a pipe dream.

Pick 58 seemed like a reasonable finishing point.

But pick 64 is a bit of trash.


Some might think melting about sliding 6 places on a 4th round pick is over the top. If it is, consider me Miles Davis.

Is the melt moot because that pick will be eaten up by Champion anyway? Whether it's 58 or 64?
64 is fine if it'll get Champion. If it won't, we'll have to ask for more. I don't know where Champion is projected to go but 59 + 64 is equivalent to pick 46 as far as Champion goes.
 
64 is fine if it'll get Champion. If it won't, we'll have to ask for more. I don't know where Champion is projected to go but 59 + 64 is equivalent to pick 46 as far as Champion goes.
Hard to predict but probably around then (46) and these picks might come in a little once bids get matched with later picks and teams pass (not sure how much of that will happen this year)

Lawson Humphries went at 63 but I think that pick was 76 pre draft starting.
 
Pyke strong in his speech (as expected from an CEO in front of a crowd) about bringing in talent via FA, Draft and trade. They made it a mandate and that’s what we will do.
Was hoping they'd airdrop some players in by airdrop tbh, but I suppose draft, trade and FA will do.
 
Hard to predict but probably around then (46) and these picks might come in a little once bids get matched with later picks and teams pass (not sure how much of that will happen this year)

Lawson Humphries went at 63 but I think that pick was 76 pre draft starting.
Considering how short bris and essondon are on picks I'd guess our 59 could be 45.
 
SSP - DGB after he finally gets delisted and hawks nuffies stop thinking he's going to be part of the Barrass trade 🤦‍♂️

Leave one list spot open for that ^


I do hope we take the rookie list serioulsly and use properly by taking the punt on some raw project players with upside. Rather than just demoting someone we've had for too long but don't want to cut from the list properly.


2019 - Treacy, Mitch Oneil, B.Ah Chee (again), H.Brayshaw (again)
2020 - Trew and Venables (again)
2021 - Pass
2022 - Trew (again) and Winder (again)
2023 - Rawlinson

I think the MSD has changed the importance of the rookie draft a bit. Maric/Culley/Hutchinson over the past 3 years are all players we wouldn't have had eyes on 6M earlier in the rookie draft that year but are still on our list.
 

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64 is fine if it'll get Champion. If it won't, we'll have to ask for more. I don't know where Champion is projected to go but 59 + 64 is equivalent to pick 46 as far as Champion goes.

Pick 59 is 158 points so would cover anything from pick 45 onwards

Pick 59 + 64 combined is 259 points which would cover a bid from 39 onwards

In short, we don’t want a bid on Champion before 39 and ideally it comes after 45 so we keep 64 to use

Or if there’s no bid before 59 we can take a live pick knowing we’ve got 64 for Champion
 
Pick 59 is 158 points so would cover anything from pick 45 onwards

Pick 59 + 64 combined is 259 points which would cover a bid from 39 onwards

In short, we don’t want a bid on Champion before 39 and ideally it comes after 45 so we keep 64 to use

Or if there’s no bid before 59 we can take a live pick knowing we’ve got 64 for Champion
Brief explainer for a draft noob like myself please.

Why do we get the discount? Isn’t NGA just the rights to match a bid? If we’re getting the discount here, when does anyone ever pay full points price?
 
Brief explainer for a draft noob like myself please.

Why do we get the discount? Isn’t NGA just the rights to match a bid? If we’re getting the discount here, when does anyone ever pay full points price?
Mainly old rules still for this year so all Northern Academy, F/S and NGA players can match the bid anywhere and they all get a 20% discount

It will all change, just waiting for Aunty Laura to announce the 2025 rules

It’s expected to be less picks holding value, a lower discount and it should be requiring a pick within a decent range so clubs cannot stack up picks 50 to 72 and match a bid at pick 1
 
Pick 59 is 158 points so would cover anything from pick 45 onwards

Pick 59 + 64 combined is 259 points which would cover a bid from 39 onwards

In short, we don’t want a bid on Champion before 39 and ideally it comes after 45 so we keep 64 to use

Or if there’s no bid before 59 we can take a live pick knowing we’ve got 64 for Champion
If he slips through we can take him as a Cat B rookie though?
 

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