List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Post Season

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  • Zane Trew, Jamaine Jones and Jordyn Baker delisted

  • List Manager Matt Clarke appeared on Gettable - Click spoiler below for summary
    On the draft: "We predicted that the draft was strong, but it's probably gotten stronger during the year."

    On top end of draft: "You could probably make five or six different choices and get it right."

    On Pick 3: "I reckon there's five (players) around that mark."

    On splitting: "I think you want to hold an early selection if you can. The depth of this group allows you to maybe have some movement there, and see what you can do to bring in more talent in the first 20-25 picks. Easier said than done, and I think most clubs would be saying the same thing. We'll see what we can do."

    On Liam Baker: "He's still yet to make a decision. They're still weighing up a few things. We'd love to get Liam on board from what he offers from a talent and leadership point of view. We understand where we're at as a group, we're rebuilding our group, we need to add some guys in the middle tier to support our young group."

    On Jack Graham: "We've got a number of players that we're speaking to. A bit of a wait and see on that one as well. We'll talk to a number of guys."

    On Shai Bolton: "I think it will be difficult for anybody, really. He's heavily contracted and a high quality player."

    On James Peatling: "He's heavily involved in a finals series at the moment so I don't want to comment too much on it, but I think there's a number of guys that have been playing really good footy this year that could suit what we do and what other clubs do. He's taken his footy to another level this year."

    On Tom Barrass: "We've had an early discussion with Hawthorn about it, they understand where we're at. He's nominated Hawthorn as his ideal destination. We want what we think he's worth, as a genuine key back in the competition that can do what he can do. We're obviously mindful of getting an appropriate deal for West Coast."

    On Tom Clurey: "Maybe (note: sounded very non enthused). We'd probably need some key back depth, whether that's through the draft or trade and free agency."

    On Jack Darling: "We've had initial discussions with his management group about (moving). We're open to talking, as we are with all of our players, but Jack's contracted with us."

    On Liam Ryan: "I expect him to be at West Coast next year, yes." (The most definitive answer of the day by a mile, a non-starter of a talking point.)

    On out of contact players e.g. Rotham, Witherden, Jones: "We're still working through what it looks like from a list point of view, and how many selections we'll want to have, and players that may come in and potentially may go out. You might want to give a coach an opportunity to look at these guys."

    On Harley Reid: "We've had discussions most of the year with his management group. I think it sits in a really good place. We're open to doing really whatever they want to do to be honest. We're really confident in building the right system around Harley, on and off field, to make sure that he's really comfortable, that he's going to play his best footy, and his long term future."

    On Jake Waterman's new deal: "Yep, really close. We're working really closely with his management on that. I expect that we'll have something done pretty soon."

    On Oscar Allen: "We've been talking with Oscar and his manager most of the year on that one. We're going through some stuff at the moment. I think we'll be ok with that one."






 
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Haha probably. My seats at Subi were over that side near the club admin area. We got some good moments: NicNat’s mark over Sinclair and Blicavs was right in front of me, Jetta (in his Sydney days) through his invisible spear into the block next to us.
Must have all been at night.
Couldn't see much from there at 3 pm without oxy goggles!
We were on the opposite side, 2 rows behind oppo bench. Every time the Pies were over I was glad not to be on the same side of the fence as big Monky
 

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Draper's decision making looked a little suspect to me, particularly in the champs where he was underwhelming

Can't argue with what he's done at SANFL level but
Decision making can improve with age and maturity that being said, I did not think his decision making was that far off, I though some of his decision making issues were more skill based on the part of who he was giving it to as opposed to it directly being him making a poor decision ... but that is just from the limited amount I have seen of him.
 
Decision making can improve with age and maturity that being said, I did not think his decision making was that far off, I though some of his decision making issues were more skill based on the part of who he was giving it to as opposed to it directly being him making a poor decision ... but that is just from the limited amount I have seen of him.
He was also coming back from injury in the champs this year and took a while to get going. Was the SA MVP and all Australian as a bottom ager in 2023.
 
3 and likely 13 plus 2025 picks.

Freo picks 9, 10 and 17 plus 2025.

Who has the better draft capital?
I really hope Warner holds off a year. Would rather use pick 3 this year, and hope beyond hope that we are a couple of spots higher on the ladder next year so only giving away pick ~5 and hawks F1.
 
FOS - Drafting on potential, rather than proven performance. I get injuries, blah. Whatever.
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Reid - **** the highlighted scares the shit out of me.
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Jagga Smith - will be gone before our pick.

So you post proves my point. Pick the proven player, who ticks every

I was thinking of a better way to put it as "safe" feels underwhelming. My view is that Draper provides me with the most confidence he will make it as a top line midfielder at the next level. And while he does not get the tic-tac stats of Will Ashcroft do 1-2 with mates, he gets a load of possessions. We do not have a you high possession mid on our list.

My view on Draper is that he is the most balanced of the top end mids. He has it all and while each may not be the best of the 7, I believe he has the least flaws. Being damn good at most things is actually quite elite. I also look at it with Harley in mind. Harley is a burst player and like Dusty, you do not want him at every stoppage expecting a clearance.

If I was to pair up a combination that best works, then it is Harley and Draper, especially if Hewett can get his body right. Harley Draper and Hewett give us a great trio and you can always get a more defensive mid in the mix. This may well be Hutchinson (albeit on a small sample size), Yeo (ask him to be doing less at stoppages), Graham, Peatling, and even Duggan or Ginbey. We are likely to either get another top Mid in 2025 or we trade for Chad or someone similar next year.

Each of the others in the top 7 have ????
  • Smith - too small and short kick
  • FOS - gone missing much of this year and lower possession mid
  • Murphy Reid - more outside leaning and will unlikely like leaving his Bayside mummy
  • Lalor - endurance, soft tissue run and plays the hard nut too much like Harley
  • Langford - speed and athleticism are questionable
  • Smillie - had the man child already reached his ceiling
Given we cannot afford to screw up our R1 picks, we probably should avoid a high risk high reward. Draper feels like a low risk but high reward pick.

(PS - apart from Murphy Reid as a flight risk, there is still a lot to like about the other options)
IMO..Draper and Smillie on par and the rest a notch ahead.

Draper and Smillie have gone missing for parts of the year and Smillie has a higher ceiling
 
So Petrucca didn’t attend the Dees F&B.

I’m going to wait for someone to now say “where there’s……..”
Petracca is past his prime sitting comfortably on a massive contract.

He seems more interested is life outside of football building his brand kind of like what fyfe did after he signed that huge deal and freo went to shit .

Events , fashion shows and social media .
Not my cup of tea but compared to other sports afl players aren't well off and probably can't retire after football just from earnings .

Built a brand or investments are what modern footballers are encouraged to do .
 

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