List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Post Season

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Trade period
In: 12, F1, F2, F3, 73, Baker, Owies, Graham*
Out: 3, 63, F4, Barrass, Darling

*Free agent

Done deals

• Jai Culley, Alex Witherden
  23

  Alex Witherden

  Age

  26

  Ht

  188cm

  Wt

  85kg

  Pos.

  Def

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  20.7

  5star

  K

  15.2

  5star

  HB

  5.5

  4star

  M

  6.2

  5star

  T

  1.8

  4star

  MG

  386.5

  5star

  D

  13.0

  3star

  K

  10.0

  4star

  HB

  3.0

  2star

  M

  7.0

  5star

  T

  0.0

  1star

  MG

  201.0

  3star

  D

  24.0

  5star

  K

  15.4

  5star

  HB

  8.6

  5star

  M

  5.8

  5star

  T

  2.2

  4star

  MG

  380.2

  5star

  and Coby Burgiel delisted
  • Burgiel to be considered as a train on player

• Tom Barrass traded to Hawthorn
  • In: F1, F2, F3 (HAW)
  • Out: Barrass, F4

• Liam Baker and Matt Owies join West Coast in Pick 3 trade
  • In: Baker, Owies, 12, 73
  • Out: 3, 63, 68

• Jack Darling traded to North Melbourne for Pick 67

• Jack Graham joins West Coast as UFA

• Jake Waterman re-signs with West Coast until at least 2029

• Zane Trew, Jamaine Jones
  31

  Jamaine Jones

  Age

  26

  Ht

  180cm

  Wt

  80kg

  Pos.

  D/F

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  9.0

  2star

  K

  4.8

  2star

  HB

  4.2

  3star

  M

  2.1

  2star

  T

  3.8

  5star

  MG

  159.6

  3star

  D

  10.5

  3star

  K

  6.5

  3star

  HB

  4.0

  3star

  M

  2.5

  3star

  T

  4.0

  5star

  MG

  196.5

  3star

  D

  9.0

  3star

  K

  4.2

  2star

  HB

  4.8

  4star

  M

  2.4

  3star

  T

  4.2

  5star

  MG

  166.0

  3star

  and Jordyn Baker delisted

• Archer Reid (2027), Loch Rawlinson (2025), and Coen Livingstone (2025) sign extensions

 

[PremiershipNo4]

That Gettable episode was a huge punch in the guts. Maybe besides the Warner sweepstakes.

Sound like we are not at the top of the queue for Peatling. To me sounded like us and Saints were just thrown in there.

I want Baker but pick 13 is putrid. The extras on that trade would be interesting. Still not sure why he has to be the one who wants to see how the trade will be done before nominating. Great fit for us but not for over paying.

Still nibbling around Shai Bolton. I want McQualter for some reason and I love Shai but is absolutely not the right fit for us right now.

Going by that info we would be hoping Bolton and Baker both go to Freo this year. Means we would have to be in front for The Chad next off season.

Trade Bell with Sam Edmund was a bit more of a positive. Links us with Riley Garcia and said both have a 2 year deal in front of him but we could put bid them if needed.

I’ll be very happy if we can land Garcia.

 

[PremiershipNo4]

How much would the doggies want for Garcia?

 

[THE A5]

Surely we aren’t getting or expecting compo for Rotham…




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Him off the list is enough Compo for me

 

[Yippy Yi Yeo]

Swans cannot get a better offer than our 3 and F1 as a starting point. Certainly a very likely top 3 pick. So what are then their options if not acceptable?

Warner is an excellent player, no doubt, but he isn’t a franchise player yet. Swans also get $1.5m in salary relief which allows them to chase other players along with two top 3 picks.

Thats a lot for one player. We would need something back. Warner isn’t worth 2xfinn Callaghan’s yet. Daicos is.

Climbing up to top 3 in draft is not like trying to get to pick 6. It’s an exponential thing in terms of trade assets.

The other option is hold him to his contract?
We might get something back trading for him next year but not this year.

 

[Elite Pete]

How much would the doggies want for Garcia?

Couldn’t get much? OOC and only getting offered 2 years. The 42 we get for Rotham?

Port linked to him on Gettable but Edmund didn’t mention them.

Similar to Dev last year, probably worse Imo, it would be a bad business decision to stay. Yes getting rid of Macrae but chasing Peatling and Sanders likely to get games next year and plus they will have pick 15*.

At the age where he just has to start playing AFL week in and out. Will get that at the Eagles without question and if he is good enough that will be enough to make it a career

 

[maverick001]

No idea what the proposed contract is but with multiple clubs reportedly interested and if Rotham is prepared to move interstate I don’t think it’s unreasonable to consider that it’s at least a couple of years in length and band 5 (pick 42) could be in play.

That would be splendid

 

[Boohemian]

The purpose of trading Barrass is he wants to go.

...because we don't want to pay the additional years and dollars that he was asking for.

It's a list management decision and as much ours as his.

 

[JackOutback]

Swans cannot get a better offer than our 3 and F1 as a starting point. Certainly a very likely top 3 pick. So what are then their options if not acceptable?

Warner is an excellent player, no doubt, but he isn’t a franchise player yet. Swans also get $1.5m in salary relief which allows them to chase other players along with two top 3 picks.

Thats a lot for one player. We would need something back. Warner isn’t worth 2xfinn Callaghan’s yet. Daicos is.

Climbing up to top 3 in draft is not like trying to get to pick 6. It’s an exponential thing in terms of trade assets.

If you add Warner to second-year Reid, Yeo and Kelly still with a little life in them, do we still finish 16? Particularly if we make another canny trade or two. Our forward line is very good, our backs at the very least hold up, our problems have always been in the middle. We still lack a competitive ruck but it could be a deal that works in our favour.

 

[mat11]

Jfc just listened to gettable. **** I'm concerned we are going to wreck our entire draft hand and short term future. I think the best option now is to forget about player movements and just bring in the kids

Get 13 + hawks F1 for barass + our f3
Get a 4th rounder for darling

Take 3, 13, 23, 58, 59 to the draft and get kids. Forget about Warner, baker,carrol,robertson, peatling etc

 

[pantskyle]

Unless Warner states he wants to leave this year I don't see any point in discussing him, Swans have him for another 12 months on good wages for them, they'll get a monster offer for him next year if he continues to perform and he'll get a massive deal still.

Load up on the draft this year, look at the experienced players next year.

 

[JoshWoodenSpoon]

The proposed deal is 13 for 21 and Baker.

That would be pretty favourable, I would expect to have to pay more.

 

[Yippy Yi Yeo]

He's uncontracted at the end of the day so why we're offering anything more than 23 or preferably F2 is beyond me. This draft is stacked and we need to be prioritising the future, not helping Richmond rebuild.

 

[ghostbat12]

Unless Warner states he wants to leave this year I don't see any point in discussing him, Swans have him for another 12 months on good wages for them, they'll get a monster offer for him next year if he continues to perform and he'll get a massive deal still.

Load up on the draft this year, look at the experienced players next year.

It’s only because will schofield suggested that it could happen this year if swans win premiership.

And he isn’t going to declare he is coming back unless he knows a deal can be made and what that looks like.

I’d rather load up on draft this year, otherwise always playing catch-up. We need to hit 3 150 game players this year.

 

[Eastern Rangers]

The smartest move here is to play Fremantle as much as possible to weaken their draft hand and go hard for Warner next year. Let them take Bolton, Baker with their 2024 picks and we'll have the superior hand with an uncontracted Warner in 2025.

 

[twce13]

Would be great but if we get Graham it’s zero compo. Another well thought out recruitment.

It'll be close to zero regardless..

 

[JackOutback]

He's uncontracted at the end of the day so why we're offering anything more than 23 or preferably F2 is beyond me. This draft is stacked and we need to be prioritising the future, not helping Richmond rebuild.

We are short on picks alone and we want to cut a little deeper to fast-track our own rebuild. Pick 13 for Baker and 21 retains our draft pick numbers in total and adds a ready-made best 22 player.

 

[Keys]

• Ashcroft gets a bid early - top 5 territory
• Lombard bid probably top 10
• Kako top 15
• Marshall possibly top 20

Don’t think there’s any other FS or academy players going that early. The Camporeale twins and Welsh sound like they’ll be later in the draft

• Battle possibly Band 1 compo but will be at least Band 2
• Parryman also likely Band 2

Don’t think there’s any other FA that would command Band 1 or 2 compo

The point of all that is pick 13 slides to 15-17 depending on the Battle compo and Kako bid. Pick 21 likely becomes pick 27 and pick 23 goes to 29 (30 if we pay Graham enough to generate Band 3 compo)

I have my concerns around the proposed Baker trade - I’m not sure he provides enough to give up a top 15 pick for. The trade as proposed effectively ends up as Baker and 27 for pick 15 (16 if Battle gets Band 1)

Bear in mind 4 of the picks pushing back are for players we can’t get so in terms of live picks it’s 13 (or 14) for 23

What also should be factored in is that Richmond’s current pick 21 is the first pick on night two. Last year the offers we got for that pick which was 30 at the time were underwhelming so we took Archer Reid. This year, with better depth in the draft we might get better offers so that pick could be perhaps split further into 2 R2 picks instead of one. Maybe

The trade isn’t outright terrible but honestly, I’d rather keep 13 at this stage and hope that Baker picks Freo

 

[plays tall 1]

The purpose of trading Barrass is he wants to go.

I’ll spell it out for you.

Why does he want to go?

Because we declined to increase his salary to something closer to market value (which he has been haggling for 2 years).

Why did we decline to increase his salary?

Because we determined that he’s a player that has draft currency and hence enable us to speed up the rebuild.

 

[ziad]

• Ashcroft gets a bid early - top 5 territory
• Lombard bid probably top 10
• Kako top 15
• Marshall possibly top 20

Don’t think there’s any other FS or academy players going that early. The Camporeale twins and Welsh sound like they’ll be later in the draft

• Battle possibly Band 1 compo but will be at least Band 2
• Parryman also likely Band 2

Don’t think there’s any other FA that would command Band 1 or 2 compo

The point of all that is pick 13 slides to 15-17 depending on the Battle compo and Kako bid. Pick 21 likely becomes pick 27 and pick 23 goes to 29 (30 if we pay Graham enough to generate Band 3 compo)

I have my concerns around the proposed Baker trade - I’m not sure he provides enough to give up a top 15 pick for. The trade as proposed effectively ends up as Baker and 27 for pick 15 (16 if Battle gets Band 1)

Bear in mind 4 of the picks pushing back are for players we can’t get so in terms of live picks it’s 13 (or 14) for 23

What also should be factored in is that Richmond’s current pick 21 is the first pick on night two. Last year the offers we got for that pick which was 30 at the time were underwhelming so we took Archer Reid. This year, with better depth in the draft we might get better offers so that pick could be perhaps split further into 2 R2 picks instead of one. Maybe

The trade isn’t outright terrible but honestly, I’d rather keep 13 at this stage and hope that Baker picks Freo

Ashcroft is touted as better than his brother - I have no personal idea. But, his brother has a lot of Cuz in his name and he is an absolute Rolls Royce. Could be an interesting draft.

 

[Bestbird]

• Ashcroft gets a bid early - top 5 territory
• Lombard bid probably top 10
• Kako top 15
• Marshall possibly top 20

Don’t think there’s any other FS or academy players going that early. The Camporeale twins and Welsh sound like they’ll be later in the draft

• Battle possibly Band 1 compo but will be at least Band 2
• Parryman also likely Band 2

Don’t think there’s any other FA that would command Band 1 or 2 compo

The point of all that is pick 13 slides to 15-17 depending on the Battle compo and Kako bid. Pick 21 likely becomes pick 27 and pick 23 goes to 29 (30 if we pay Graham enough to generate Band 3 compo)

I have my concerns around the proposed Baker trade - I’m not sure he provides enough to give up a top 15 pick for. The trade as proposed effectively ends up as Baker and 27 for pick 15 (16 if Battle gets Band 1)

Bear in mind 4 of the picks pushing back are for players we can’t get so in terms of live picks it’s 13 (or 14) for 23

What also should be factored in is that Richmond’s current pick 21 is the first pick on night two. Last year the offers we got for that pick which was 30 at the time were underwhelming so we took Archer Reid. This year, with better depth in the draft we might get better offers so that pick could be perhaps split further into 2 R2 picks instead of one. Maybe

The trade isn’t outright terrible but honestly, I’d rather keep 13 at this stage and hope that Baker picks Freo

Same regarding Pick 13. The trade for Baker maybe easier depending on what the other pick Hawthorn gives for Barrass

 

[swingdog]

• Ashcroft gets a bid early - top 5 territory
• Lombard bid probably top 10
• Kako top 15
• Marshall possibly top 20

Don’t think there’s any other FS or academy players going that early. The Camporeale twins and Welsh sound like they’ll be later in the draft

• Battle possibly Band 1 compo but will be at least Band 2
• Parryman also likely Band 2

Don’t think there’s any other FA that would command Band 1 or 2 compo

The point of all that is pick 13 slides to 15-17 depending on the Battle compo and Kako bid. Pick 21 likely becomes pick 27 and pick 23 goes to 29 (30 if we pay Graham enough to generate Band 3 compo)

I have my concerns around the proposed Baker trade - I’m not sure he provides enough to give up a top 15 pick for. The trade as proposed effectively ends up as Baker and 27 for pick 15 (16 if Battle gets Band 1)

Bear in mind 4 of the picks pushing back are for players we can’t get so in terms of live picks it’s 13 (or 14) for 23

What also should be factored in is that Richmond’s current pick 21 is the first pick on night two. Last year the offers we got for that pick which was 30 at the time were underwhelming so we took Archer Reid. This year, with better depth in the draft we might get better offers so that pick could be perhaps split further into 2 R2 picks instead of one. Maybe

The trade isn’t outright terrible but honestly, I’d rather keep 13 at this stage and hope that Baker picks Freo

In no other industry would an employee nominate a company they want to go to and the expectation is that company will find a place for them, whether it suits their plans or not. Ridiculous.

 

[eaglesnutcase]

versatile athletic player with height and pace. HOT property

Absolute star. Just needs a new environment to bring out the inner talent.whoever gets him is getting a potential bargain. I always knew he could go on with it.

 

[Shueygod]

The Baker trade can be looked at in isolation, other trades are not dependent on it going through. Pairing it up with Barrass/Warner trades to make it look better is pointless.

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

The proposed deal is 13 for 21 and Baker.

What that likely means is we get Oliver plus Baker instead of Travaglia or Lindsay.

It is not what I want but it is seriously not that bad a deal.

 

[stallon]

Giving up 13 for Baker doesn't make sense in isolation. Assuming the Barrass trade is 13 + 30 and Baker is 13 for Baker + 21, combined with a suggestion from stallon to get Warner, 18 + F1 from the Swans for 3 + F1, that could leave us with:

Warner
Baker
18, 21, 23, 30, 59
Swans F1, WCE F2, F3, F4

Trade pick 30 for Peatling then draft 2 wing/half backs and a KPD and we are sorted ready to rise up the ladder.
I really think thatd be an elite off-season