List Mgmt. Contract, Trade & Draftee Discussion - 2022 Off Season Edition

[Keys]

Contract status of all players now fully updated

The Contracts Thread

2024 List Changes : Out: Retired- Gaff Delisted - Jones, Trew(R), Baker(R), Witherden, Burgiel, Culley(R) Traded - Darling (NM) Barrass (Hawthorn) In: Trade/FA acquisitions - Graham (Richmond) Baker (Richmond) Owies (Carlton) Current contract status (Updated 18/10/24) : Total 39 Players -...

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[dinnaz]

You have Yeo twice and that backline is treacle slow . Need cole and Jones in that backline

2x Yeo's are good haha

 

[pantskyle]

Start the draft now, who says no?

 

[dinnaz]

With GWS reportedly being reluctant to trade their first pick tonight (after a night of applying aloe Vera cream to a sensitive body part), clubs may come calling for our pick with all but one of Ryan, Cowan, Barnett, George and Clarke still available and in demand.

There’s talk of Adelaide putting Norths F2 on the table in pursuit of Barnett. I would want more than a straight swap. They have Collingwood’s F3 but that’s in the 50 range. They also still hold their own F2 which we could then send back our own F3, Ports F2 at a pinch

So 23 and our F3 for Norths and Adelaide’s F2 if they’re really keen. Would need us trying to use Ports F3 to trade back in to the late 30’s/early 40’s range to use a 4th pick

Melbourne are also keen on George so if he gets past GWS then go after their and Freo’s F2 picks to move from 38 to 23. Or Melbournes F1 and 38 for 23 and our F3

Tell Essendon we’ll bid on Davey or trade 23 for 25 if they send us their F3

There’s other options but thanks to Sydney we might get some attractive offers for our pick

Still get Burgiel with 29 and jump back latish to get someone like Smith, Lemmey, Broadbent, Gilbey or Hagan whilst boosting our 2023 draft hand

Id very much like Barnett at 23. A real risk reward choice but could pay off big time.
GWS might be a chance to take him at 22 as Himmelberg has gone to defence and their Rucks are patchy.

If not Jakob Ryan is a fav of mine. Seems pointless to get an extra 3rd rounder for a slide when there's still 3-4 legit players available.
Jed Hagan is another im hoping for at 29. Massive sleeper of this draft.

 

[Keys]

Id very much like Barnett at 23. A real risk reward choice but could pay off big time.
GWS might be a chance to take him at 22 as Himmelberg has gone to defence and their Rucks are patchy.

If not Jakob Ryan is a fav of mine. Seems pointless to get an extra 3rd rounder for a slide when there's still 3-4 legit players available.
Jed Hagan is another im hoping for at 29. Massive sleeper of this draft.

I’m pleasantly surprised by how many good options we have in front of us still

There’s good options at each pick if we use them plus scope to manufacture a beneficial trade as an alternative

 

[Nuffington Post]

Unless we really want Barnett, I think it’s worth trading down the order to get an extra F2. The talent is pretty even in the second round.


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[Happy Mastenator]

Its literally 2deg on average all winter colder than Melbourne.

You really think you can tell the difference between 12 and 14 deg whilst playing a game of AFL?!

Yeah but Melbourne is an actual city with things to do and stadiums that have great protection from the elements that allow proper footy to be played. Whatever they build in tassie will be a wind blown hellscape unless the give it a roof.

 

[shooshka]

Id very much like Barnett at 23. A real risk reward choice but could pay off big time.
GWS might be a chance to take him at 22 as Himmelberg has gone to defence and their Rucks are patchy.

If not Jakob Ryan is a fav of mine. Seems pointless to get an extra 3rd rounder for a slide when there's still 3-4 legit players available.
Jed Hagan is another im hoping for at 29. Massive sleeper of this draft.

Plenty of good options, and I'm with you that I'd prefer we take pick 24 (after we bid on Davey), but also agree with Keys that we would be mad not to listen to offers.

After yesterday our glaring needs have changed to the following:

KPF
Small Forward
Ruck

At 23 the best ruck is quite possibly available - but if not or we don't rate him that much better than some others then they will be available either very late or rookie
Small forwards will be available at 29 (unlikely Clarke, but some other options)
KPF's 23 is a reach. 29 may well be a reach for many/most of them. Likely a pick around the mid-30's will get Lemmey probably Keeler also, and there are others like Scully who may be RD at best.

Basically, unless there is someone who we rate as too good to pass up then trading down isn't all that bad as the talent is once again even (and guys like Hayes, J Ryan, Cowan, Hustwaite are not filling massive needs for us).

 

[shooshka]

Yeah but Melbourne is an actual city with things to do and stadiums that have great protection from the elements that allow proper footy to be played. Whatever they build in tassie will be a wind blown hellscape unless the give it a roof.

It's the first part that is the issue. Hobart, whilst nice for a visit, is very, very quiet.

Plus the opportunities outside of footy will be more limited (due to the size and population of the state).

 

[mitchzz]

My theory based on nothing at all:

If we had taken Mackenzie, Clark or even Tsatas with our first pick we would have taken a flyer on Ed Allan at 14

But because we took Ginbey - a backman turned midfielder (classic WC) - we opted for a safer, traditional mid in Hewett over Allan, a bigger risk

 

[Biggie]

I had the draft starting at 4pm WST today

So this is a good result

 

[bzparkes]

Yeah but Melbourne is an actual city with things to do and stadiums that have great protection from the elements that allow proper footy to be played. Whatever they build in tassie will be a wind blown hellscape unless the give it a roof.

*Hobart.

Launceston isn't windy at all.

 

[Deepthroat]

We could also trade Essendon 23 for 25 and their 2023 second rounder.

They get their extra player tonight and we get something more for next year.

 

[squashface]

I had the draft starting at 4pm WST today

So this is a good result

It's in my top 5 times

 

[The wily weagle]

This is by far the most relaxed i have seen this board after a draft night in the almost 10 years i have been here

 

[Schtinker]

Have to take Burgiel as he won't be on the board at our 4th. But gee Brayden George, Hustwaite, Charlie Clarke and Olli Hotton are still available. Hmmm

 

[Evo47]

I chortle at the WC media saying our strategy "paid" off.

Unless we had planned on taking Ginbey at 2/3 - then we won't know whether it has paid off.

If Ginbey/Hewett is better than say Wardlaw - then sure - but it's going to be a number of years before we can say it "pays off"

Just like Chinese State Media, the leadership always nails it!

 

[darksquare]

I think we will definitely have some of our preferred selections available at both of our picks tonight - the bids have seen to that. I even think some players we would have been happy taking with our 4th pick will still be on the board in the mid-30s or beyond. Ideally they'd be available at our last pick, wherever it falls - but I hope we're working the phones offering hypothetical trades of future picks in case we decide to pull the trigger and grab someone we like with a 5th pick.

 

[Falco]

I wonder if we could offer something to Collingwood for pick 28 and 30 - imagine having three picks in a row before the purples!

 

[Benny duggans]

I chortle at the WC media saying our strategy "paid" off.

Unless we had planned on taking Ginbey at 2/3 - then we won't know whether it has paid off.

If Ginbey/Hewett is better than say Wardlaw - then sure - but it's going to be a number of years before we can say it "pays off"

Negative Nancy

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

Here are what I believe are the 2023 picks that each club is now holding.

 

[stylish]

I wonder if we could offer something to Collingwood for pick 28 and 30 - imagine having three picks in a row before the purples!

Which current players do you plan on delisting to allow for #23, 28, 29 & 30?

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

From the HUN

 

[Hook461123]

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Here are what I believe are the 2023 picks that each club is now holding.

So its really only GCS and us who hold full draft hands. We need to somehow turn our extra picks into a second R1 selection.
GCS would be the most likely to trade their R1 selection due to their academy selections but they are already stocked up with picks

 

[Falco]

Which current players do you plan on delisting to allow for #23, 28, 29 & 30?

Take one less rookie contingent on an offer of 23 + 2023 3rd rounder for 28 + 30.

 

[eaglesnutcase]

The kids getting actual midfield minutes is important. The idea of Culley. Hewett, Ginbey lining up against Dunkley, Neale and McLugggage does not fill me with joy though.

The majority of the minutes will/should still be taken up by Yeo. Shuey, Sheed, Kelly. Importantly probably two of them plus a kid.

Importantly we now have options. We don't have to flog the older guys with all their minutes in the middle, we can play them forward/back for periods and pro-long their legs.

Y'all fergittin' a supa fit Nicnat !!