List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition

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SSP signing dates

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• Monday, November 25, 2024 – Thursday, December 19, 2024
• Monday, January 13, 2025 – Friday, February 21, 2025

Players out of Contract (16) - 2025

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• Tim Kelly (26/7/94) - Signed a 6 year contract (2020-25) in October 2019
• Dom Sheed (10/4/95) - Signed a 4 year extension (2022-25) in April 2021*
• Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
• Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
• Tom Cole (28/5/97) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) in May 2022
• Rhett Bazzo (17/10/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in September 2022
• Jayden Hunt (3/4/95) - Signed a 3 year contract (2023-25) in October 2022
• Callum Jamieson (31/7/00) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in March 2023
• Jeremy McGovern (15/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• Jack Petruccelle (12/4/99) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• (R) Jack Hutchinson (10/11/01) - Automatic 18 month contract (2024-25) when drafted in May 2024
• (R) Tyrell Dewar (27/3/04) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in June 2024
• (R) Loch Rawlinson (1/6/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024

 

[Goomba1973]

All they would have is pick 16 so we will be forced to accept that.

No we wouldn't .....

 

[Goomba1973]

What leadership credentials do you believe Harley offers?

Or are you thinking like a primary school kid and pick the best player as captain?

Why not look at Baker as an interim option as captain from 2026 until someone else steps up and shows leadership qualities?

 

[Deplorable trumpster]

Ginbey?

Poor kicking?

They are hiding him on a HBF because they don't where else to put him.

If he turns out to be a great player i will admit i am wrong but thats my view.

Even WCE Phil, who is hardly a glass is half empty kind of guy with our players and is better informed about these things than any of us, said shortly after he was drafted that the best we could hope for was a career trajectory similar to Scott Selwood. I think that is a disappointing return for a top 10 pick.

 

[We_The_West]

They are hiding him on a HBF because they don't where else to put him.

If he turns out to be a great player i will admit i am wrong but thats my view.

Even WCE Phil, who is hardly a glass is half empty kind of guy with our players and is better informed about these things than any of us, said shortly after he was drafted that the best we could hope for was a career trajectory similar to Scott Selwood. I think that is a disappointing return for a top 10 pick.

Scott Selwood won a B&F at the very least.... that season he played out of his skin.

 

[bzparkes]

They are hiding him on a HBF because they don't where else to put him.

If he turns out to be a great player i will admit i am wrong but thats my view.

Even WCE Phil, who is hardly a glass is half empty kind of guy with our players and is better informed about these things than any of us, said shortly after he was drafted that the best we could hope for was a career trajectory similar to Scott Selwood. I think that is a disappointing return for a top 10 pick.

You dumb?

They're not 'hiding' him on a HBF, he's a gun at that position.

You want 23 mids in the team or something?

 

[amazingjoshy]

Same as Toby greene.

If Toby Greene is captain material. I think he is. Then Harley is captain material.

Captaincy often removes the I in team and would help Harley with the bigger picture. Toby matured a great deal as a result being installed captain.

I've got something to tell you about Toby Greene's career kicking efficiency....

 

[Happy Mastenator]

They are hiding him on a HBF because they don't where else to put him.

If he turns out to be a great player i will admit i am wrong but thats my view.

Even WCE Phil, who is hardly a glass is half empty kind of guy with our players and is better informed about these things than any of us, said shortly after he was drafted that the best we could hope for was a career trajectory similar to Scott Selwood. I think that is a disappointing return for a top 10 pick.

Scooter was a very good player, one of the best taggers in the game and could win the ball going the other way.

Injuries ruined his career.

Sometimes i think the average age on here is about 10, or people just have the memory of goldfishes.

 

[Aarick13]

If Harley hasn't re-signed by the end of next season you call up Richmond and see what you can get. At minimum their first rounder and NM first rounder. Next year going to Richmond is going to be our best chance to maximize his value if he is planning on going to go back to Victoria after 3 years.

 

[FKASC]

They are hiding him on a HBF because they don't where else to put him.

If he turns out to be a great player i will admit i am wrong but thats my view.

Even WCE Phil, who is hardly a glass is half empty kind of guy with our players and is better informed about these things than any of us, said shortly after he was drafted that the best we could hope for was a career trajectory similar to Scott Selwood. I think that is a disappointing return for a top 10 pick.

The actual comment was

He may be second to the ball Ginbey now but he does still have a lot of elite attributes and if he does get to the point of being the one getting to the ball first even 50% of the time against the oppositions best mids then we will have one seriously good player. A taller, faster version of peak Scott Selwood.

“career trajectory similar to…” is misrepresenting things a bit, especially considering Selwood’s career went from B&F to utter shit very quickly

 

[WCErevival]

Scooter was a very good player, one of the best taggers in the game and could win the ball going the other way.

Injuries ruined his career.

Sometimes i think the average age on here is about 10, or people just have the memory of goldfishes.

I wouldn't say he was brilliant though. He had a couple of good years where he won a fair bit of ball but outside of that he was a solid B grader.

 

[Ruben Grubarb]

What leadership credentials do you believe Harley offers?

Or are you thinking like a primary school kid and pick the best player as captain?

Not sure if serious.

1. You can just see it in how he carries himself. Kid's deoderant is even called Leader.
2. In AFL, you still generally pick your best player as captain. Not all the time, but most of the time, they are the best leader.

 

[Ruben Grubarb]

spud adjacent.

Contender for Macquarie dictionary word/s of the year. Sounds a little bit woke, too.

 

[Ruben Grubarb]

Even WCE Phil, who is hardly a glass is half empty kind of guy with our players and is better informed about these things than any of us

You doing stand-up, now?

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

Not sure if serious.

1. You can just see it in how he carries himself. Kid's deoderant is even called Leader.
2. In AFL, you still generally pick your best player as captain. Not all the time, but most of the time, they are the best leader.

Not sure where you believe the best players in the AFL are captain

Clubs who have NOT made their best player captain. Geelong, Melbourne, Richmond, Collingwood, Sydney, Norf, St Kilda, Freo, Suns, Hawks and West Coast

Even Fremantle saw this with Fyfe.

If it was your best player, Gov would be our captain

You can have game day leaders that turn games but there is a lot more to being a club captain.

 

[We_The_West]

Contender for Macquarie dictionary word/s of the year. Sounds a little bit woke, too.

I prefer their choice: Enshittification.
Describes our ball movement over the past 3 years perfectly, albeit not online...

 

[PremiershipNo4]

Not sure if serious.

1. You can just see it in how he carries himself. Kid's deoderant is even called Leader.
2. In AFL, you still generally pick your best player as captain. Not all the time, but most of the time, they are the best leader.

What a load of crap!
Was Trent Cotchin a better player than Dustin Martin?
Was Max Gawn better than Petracca?
I could go on and on.
It’s not U/10’s, it’s the AFL. Just being the best player doesn’t make you the best leader, it’s that simple.

 

[We_The_West]

2. In AFL, you still generally pick your best player as captain. Not all the time, but most of the time, they are the best leader.

I believe this is only in Fantasy Football - double the points apparently

 

[We_The_West]

Apparently Liam Baker was touted as Richmond's next captain.... pretty happy we just recruited their best player!

 

[Rowan18]

Just not a fan of constantly bombing it.

Rather getting it to someone 60-70m out & a fwdthen can lead up for a mark - with the alternate option of it being run into the 50m & kicking a goal.

The defenders can't be sure which the danger is.

Richmond used to do this often in their flag era. If they marked around 60m out from goal it was a high chance they were having a shot, either by hitting up a lead around 40m out or one of their longer kicks playing on for a ping.

 

[squashface]

Apparently Liam Baker was touted as Richmond's next captain.... pretty happy we just recruited their best player!

So was Graham at one stage too funnily enough

 

[Happy Mastenator]

I wouldn't say he was brilliant though. He had a couple of good years where he won a fair bit of ball but outside of that he was a solid B grader.

He was tracking to be very good, had an failed ankle reconstruction at around ~24 and was never the same again.

2013 was his age 23 season.

 

[WCE_phil]

He was tracking to be very good, had an failed ankle reconstruction at around ~24 and was never the same again.

2013 was his age 23 season.
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Scooter his his injury as much as possible from the club and continued to play with it. It ruined his career. Pure stupidity.

 

[Ruben Grubarb]

Not sure where you believe the best players in the AFL are captain

Clubs who have NOT made their best player captain. Geelong, Melbourne, Richmond, Collingwood, Sydney, Norf, St Kilda, Freo, Suns, Hawks and West Coast

Even Fremantle saw this with Fyfe.

If it was your best player, Gov would be our captain

You can have game day leaders that turn games but there is a lot more to being a club captain.

I said generally.

Danger, along with Selwood was Geelong's best player for close to a decade.
Gawn was the best player at the time. Tracc and Oliver were too young.
Pendlebury could be the Pies best ever player. Was captain for a decade. Daicos is too young, but he will get the captaincy.
Mills was probably the Swans best player at the time.
Norf are in transition. There's no one available. LDU probably doesn't have the leadership chops, so they're waiting for Sheezel.
Steele was easily Saints best when appointed captain.
Touk Miller was easily the Suns best when appointed captain
Sicily also was the best player
OA also best player
Fyfe was the best player for a long time

What on Earth are you talking about? I never said the best player always had to be captain. I also never said that as soon as that player is no longer the best player, you swap him out for the best player. And I never said if your best player is 21, throw him the armband.

 

[Ruben Grubarb]

What a load of crap!
Was Trent Cotchin a better player than Dustin Martin?
Was Max Gawn better than Petracca?
I could go on and on.
It’s not U/10’s, it’s the AFL. Just being the best player doesn’t make you the best leader, it’s that simple.

Dusty is only one example. One example doesn't void the pattern.

When Gawn was appointed captain, Tracc was too young.



Selwood
Danger
Fyfe
Cripps
Buckley
Hird
Voss
Pavlich
Kelly
Reiwoldt
Carey

Let me know if you want me to name more.

I can go on and on and on. Generally, the best player is often the best leader. Generally, most clubs will install the best player as leader.

 

[FKASC]

Richmond used to do this often in their flag era. If they marked around 60m out from goal it was a high chance they were having a shot, either by hitting up a lead around 40m out or one of their longer kicks playing on for a ping.

Tbh they didn’t really hit up leads that much - they would often kick it into space around 25 m out in front of goals and then get their smalls to Zerg Swarm opposition defenders into HTB or turnovers.

Used to hate it seeing spuds like Castagna profit from it, but it was so bloody effective at the time