List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition

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• Monday, November 25, 2024 – Thursday, December 19, 2024
• Monday, January 13, 2025 – Friday, February 21, 2025

Players out of Contract (16) - 2025

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• Tim Kelly (26/7/94) - Signed a 6 year contract (2020-25) in October 2019
• Dom Sheed (10/4/95) - Signed a 4 year extension (2022-25) in April 2021*
• Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
• Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
• Tom Cole (28/5/97) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) in May 2022
• Rhett Bazzo (17/10/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in September 2022
• Jayden Hunt (3/4/95) - Signed a 3 year contract (2023-25) in October 2022
• Callum Jamieson (31/7/00) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in March 2023
• Jeremy McGovern (15/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• Jack Petruccelle (12/4/99) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• (R) Jack Hutchinson (10/11/01) - Automatic 18 month contract (2024-25) when drafted in May 2024
• (R) Tyrell Dewar (27/3/04) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in June 2024
• (R) Loch Rawlinson (1/6/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024

 

[WCE777]

Actually have 4 firsts in play next year. The smart call would be particularly if hawks slide a few spots Hawks 1st + WCE future first straight up. It's very fair all round if Warner still wants to come home.

Could literally add Freddie, Chad, Corey, WCE 2nd and then academy prospects and be done. Not much more that can or needs to be turned over. The club is going to need to be developing some of our young talls as backs and we still need a competent ruck for the future when the time comes.

Reality is even if we end up absolutely nailing the 2021-2025 draft/trade/fa periods the earliest likely time to contend imo is 2028. So i'd want to have a ready to go ruck by the end of the 2027 trade period if Flynn doesn't work out.

100%
Like I mentioned earlier do you think fair trade for Warner is pick 9-12 Hawks 1st and WC F1st, likely pick 5-7?
Are WC paying overs based on recent high end trades?
That high of trade for OOC player would be maximum, would be asking for something back if it gets to that price picks wise?
Chad, Corey, Freddie, WC 2nd/hopefully Curtin slides, and academy talent, 100% like this, would love to get Curtin as the next KDEF prospect to be ready in 3-4 years.
Again agree 100% with club needing to develop KP players as backs, A Reid, Barnett if he doesn't improve in ruck role, Maric looks like he is being tried in KDEF role in Gov type?
Again agree with 2028 and the need for a decent ruck is probably 2026-27 FA, trade problem, even if Flynn does work out he will be 29 and is more of a decent fill than a decent top 20 ruck imo?

 

[flamingEMBERS]

Sorry on Rodriguez he is not outside at all he is a centreman
He is a inside mid that has elite footskills on either side
He is tough hard at it gets a lot of second possession in the centre
Is elite distributor by hand and foot so brings other into the game
He has a very balanced inside outside game

Sounds like Benny Cuz. Must draft!

 

[Byron_Clanger]

100%
Like I mentioned earlier do you think fair trade for Warner is pick 9-12 Hawks 1st and WC F1st, likely pick 5-7?
Are WC paying overs based on recent high end trades?
That high of trade for OOC player would be maximum, would be asking for something back if it gets to that price picks wise?
Chad, Corey, Freddie, WC 2nd/hopefully Curtin slides, and academy talent, 100% like this, would love to get Curtin as the next KDEF prospect to be ready in 3-4 years.
Again agree 100% with club needing to develop KP players as backs, A Reid, Barnett if he doesn't improve in ruck role, Maric looks like he is being tried in KDEF role in Gov type?
Again agree with 2028 and the need for a decent ruck is probably 2026-27 FA, trade problem, even if Flynn does work out he will be 29 and is more of a decent fill than a decent top 20 ruck imo?

Oh, we're definitely gonna be paying overs trying to secure Warner, pretty sure that was the entire reason for wanting next years picks instead of this years from the Hawks.

 

[Get_The_Gaff]

Oh, we're definitely gonna be paying overs trying to secure Warner, pretty sure that was the entire reason for wanting next years picks instead of this years from the Hawks.

Why do we have to pay overs for warner ?

If we convince him to come to west coast we trade hard .

We shouldn't be paying more than other similar trades .

Contracted Bolton 10 + 11 + 18 for Bolton + 14 + f3 (37)

Tim toranto 12 + 19

Rankin pick 5

Cameron 3 x later 1sts for Cameron + 2x 2nd rounders approximately pick 4-5 on the draft points calculation

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

Why do we have to pay overs for warner ?

Because the recruitment team be like:

 

[WCE777]

Oh, we're definitely gonna be paying overs trying to secure Warner, pretty sure that was the entire reason for wanting next years picks instead of this years from the Hawks.

the question is what overs does WC pay.
Hawks 1st(pick 9-12), WC F1st(pick 5-7) is basically pick 1 with a discount for WC F1st.
High end deal, anymore and SYD need to be giving something back, if WC have to trade into back half of 1st round to satisfy a deal if want picks in 2025 they need to be putting a F2nd on the table.

 

[WCE_phil]

100%
Like I mentioned earlier do you think fair trade for Warner is pick 9-12 Hawks 1st and WC F1st, likely pick 5-7?
Are WC paying overs based on recent high end trades?
That high of trade for OOC player would be maximum, would be asking for something back if it gets to that price picks wise?
Chad, Corey, Freddie, WC 2nd/hopefully Curtin slides, and academy talent, 100% like this, would love to get Curtin as the next KDEF prospect to be ready in 3-4 years.
Again agree 100% with club needing to develop KP players as backs, A Reid, Barnett if he doesn't improve in ruck role, Maric looks like he is being tried in KDEF role in Gov type?
Again agree with 2028 and the need for a decent ruck is probably 2026-27 FA, trade problem, even if Flynn does work out he will be 29 and is more of a decent fill than a decent top 20 ruck imo?

If Flynn can get himself over his injuries and into peak form he is a serviceable ruck for a contending side. 29-31 is a workable age for a ruck and I think he has the ability to be the lead ruck in a contending side.

It's a big if however.

If the hawks pick is pick 9 + WCE F1 I think that's fair to all parties.

 

[We_The_West]

The club is going to need to be developing some of our young talls as backs and we still need a competent ruck for the future when the time comes.

What's your view on Bazzo? Was pretty highly rated as a junior and was part of that strong 2021 WA draft class. I really hope he can fill one of the KPD roles long term.

 

[Obeanie1]

Actually have 4 firsts in play next year. The smart call would be particularly if hawks slide a few spots Hawks 1st + WCE future first straight up. It's very fair all round if Warner still wants to come home.

Could literally add Freddie, Chad, Corey, WCE 2nd and then academy prospects and be done. Not much more that can or needs to be turned over. The club is going to need to be developing some of our young talls as backs and we still need a competent ruck for the future when the time comes.

Reality is even if we end up absolutely nailing the 2021-2025 draft/trade/fa periods the earliest likely time to contend imo is 2028. So i'd want to have a ready to go ruck by the end of the 2027 trade period if Flynn doesn't work out.

Spot on.

Been saying all along our list in 2026 is going to have refreshed the young talent with top picks and we start climbing. Add a couple of trades and free agents and the list is 90% there.

Agreed we need to develop or trade in a capable #1 ruck however we dont need to use top 10 picks to land them. Money and opportunity can land us a decent mature ruck in the next 2 to 3 years.

When the team looks close to contending thats when established gun players become interested in us as an option.

 

[ghostbat12]

And I don’t pretend to have any inside word on anything.

Oh yes you do! Everything in your post is fair but this bit - no.

 

[THE_GUN]

Very interesting thread

Sydney wont be willing to accept Hawks R1 + Eagles F1 for Warner
the eagles 1st rounder will 100% be demanded and will be included with something ontop

Gun mid in his prime with 8 / 9 years left
Top 5 pick + change every day of the week

 

[Rowan18]

Very interesting thread

Sydney wont be willing to accept Hawks R1 + Eagles F1 for Warner
the eagles 1st rounder will 100% be demanded and will be included with something ontop

Gun mid in his prime with 8 / 9 years left
Top 5 pick + change every day of the week

They'd definitely be keen to get it, but I figure that's what the argy bargy would be over. Probably depends if he nominates us as a club or just the old "WA team", which will allow Freo to leverage it up.

 

[Bender_]

Very interesting thread

Sydney wont be willing to accept Hawks R1 + Eagles F1 for Warner
the eagles 1st rounder will 100% be demanded and will be included with something ontop

Gun mid in his prime with 8 / 9 years left
Top 5 pick + change every day of the week

Did you work out we'd started a new thread and your threadban was for the old one?

 

[Keys]

Did you work out we'd started a new thread and your threadban was for the old one?

Thanks for the reminder

 

[WCE777]

Cripps - retire
Sheed - put down
Jamison
Hunt
Barnett or Flynn - we can’t keep going with both
Livingstone
Rawlinson

Need to find their afl level performances or gone:
Chesser
Brock

Retirement looms (hopefully not):
Gov

Petrucelle would, I think, suit the new gameplan. But prone to injury.

Cripps- retire only player on this list that deserves 1 year extension if keeps form
Sheed- delist
Jamieson- delist
Livingstone- delist
Rawlinson= delist
Petch- trade FA band 3 or 4
Chesser- trade 3rd/4th round pick
Flynn- plays ok he keeps his spot, but not a number 1 ruck
Bazzo is next probably but would be deciding at end of year if he has progressed enough or is a depth player/short term contract. It will depend where Maric, Barnett, A Reid progress in the team re- KDEF options?

 

[ArdentEagle]

The ruck truly is a conundrum, especially as we know that we're heavily invested in Warner, plus our academy guys and most likely FR as an earlier talent. (Rucks always take a while too)


To we go hard for TDK as an RFA, that big ginger muppet from Adelaide is an upgrade on Flynn but not an exciting one as a UFA (2025)

Of the other RFA/UFA for 2025, Goldy is just getting too old. Blicavs probably the same, Meek is an NFA, as is Visentini.

I still maintain the Crossley is worth another shot for no cost. I don't care if he's short for a ruck, he will punish the other rucks and is probably an ideal pairing for BW.

He'll probably suit our new game plan too. Also far less HTA by oppo rucks....I recon Reid would love him too.

 

[Nuffington Post]

The ruck truly is a conundrum, especially as we know that we're heavily invested in Warner, plus our academy guys and most likely FR as an earlier talent. (Rucks always take a while too)


To we go hard for TDK as an RFA, that big ginger muppet from Adelaide is an upgrade on Flynn but not an exciting one as a UFA (2025)

Of the other RFA/UFA for 2025, Goldy is just getting too old. Blicavs probably the same, Meek is an NFA, as is Visentini.

I still maintain the Crossley is worth another shot for no cost. I don't care if he's short for a ruck, he will punish the other rucks and is probably an ideal pairing for BW.

He'll probably suit our new game plan too. Also far less HTA by oppo rucks....I recon Reid would love him too.

I think it would be very unlikely TDK comes west. Need Flynn to have a big year otherwise we will be looking at the likes of Reidy, Moyle or Reeves.


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[ArdentEagle]

I think it would be very unlikely TDK comes west. Need Flynn to have a big year otherwise we will be looking at the likes of Reidy, Moyle or Reeves.


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Moyle just re-signed to the end of 2028 still under contract to 2026.

Reidy only had the 1yr extension but now Freo had Knobel nicked from under their noses, I suspect they'll fight hard to keep him.

I recon Crossley would suit out (new) system better than Reidy too an at no cost.

 

[Broken_Chairs]

Very interesting thread

Sydney wont be willing to accept Hawks R1 + Eagles F1 for Warner
the eagles 1st rounder will 100% be demanded and will be included with something ontop

Gun mid in his prime with 8 / 9 years left
Top 5 pick + change every day of the week

Prob depends on where Hawks land in 25 & the value of that first rounder. If they're top 8 no chance, bottom 8 and it might be workable with a F1.

 

[WCE777]

Moyle just re-signed to the end of 2028 still under contract to 2026.

Reidy only had the 1yr extension but now Freo had Knobel nicked from under their noses, I suspect they'll fight hard to keep him.

I recon Crossley would suit out (new) system better than Reidy too an at no cost.

The ruck is a problem but lower priority until 2026/27.
Moyle will be 25 in 2027, Reidy 27 in 2027.
If WC can get decent service out of Flynn/BW and JW as backup, Barnett mature we won't need a very good ruck until 2027/28 when we are finals bound, Flynn will be done by then or decent 2nd ruck, BW will find his place or be 2nd ruck if WC can get a decent ruck come 26/27 or be traded.

 

[Wce17]

Very interesting thread

Sydney wont be willing to accept Hawks R1 + Eagles F1 for Warner
the eagles 1st rounder will 100% be demanded and will be included with something ontop

Gun mid in his prime with 8 / 9 years left
Top 5 pick + change every day of the week

So who’s the better player Bolton or Warner?

 

[eaglevision]

Pinched this from another thread but very, very good from DGB.

 

[FKASC]

Pinched this from another thread but very, very good from DGB.
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Interesting that they didn’t already follow each other

 

[WCE777]

Actually have 4 firsts in play next year. The smart call would be particularly if hawks slide a few spots Hawks 1st + WCE future first straight up. It's very fair all round if Warner still wants to come home.

Could literally add Freddie, Chad, Corey, WCE 2nd and then academy prospects and be done. Not much more that can or needs to be turned over. The club is going to need to be developing some of our young talls as backs and we still need a competent ruck for the future when the time comes.

Reality is even if we end up absolutely nailing the 2021-2025 draft/trade/fa periods the earliest likely time to contend imo is 2028. So i'd want to have a ready to go ruck by the end of the 2027 trade period if Flynn doesn't work out.

Following on with list management.
Where do you see BW future in the ruck structure at WC?
If Flynn plays well and stays injury free and the need to play and growth of JW he probably finds himself in an awkward position?

 

[Obeanie1]

No idea why people are putting Livingston on the delist pile after his 1st year.

When have 200cm frwd rucks delivered as 19 year olds? They take years to develop.

Same with Bazzo. We are not moving on one of the few developing KP defender prospects. Not after a year wrecked by tragedy and the next working through OP as he was building his body.