List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition

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• Monday, November 25, 2024 – Thursday, December 19, 2024
• Monday, January 13, 2025 – Friday, February 21, 2025

Players out of Contract (16) - 2025

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• Tim Kelly (26/7/94) - Signed a 6 year contract (2020-25) in October 2019
• Dom Sheed (10/4/95) - Signed a 4 year extension (2022-25) in April 2021*
• Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
• Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
• Tom Cole (28/5/97) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) in May 2022
• Rhett Bazzo (17/10/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in September 2022
• Jayden Hunt (3/4/95) - Signed a 3 year contract (2023-25) in October 2022
• Callum Jamieson (31/7/00) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in March 2023
• Jeremy McGovern (15/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• Jack Petruccelle (12/4/99) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• (R) Jack Hutchinson (10/11/01) - Automatic 18 month contract (2024-25) when drafted in May 2024
• (R) Tyrell Dewar (27/3/04) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in June 2024
• (R) Loch Rawlinson (1/6/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024

 

[Yippy Yi Yeo]

O/k we are after Warner & it sounds like he is keen to, unless Sydney make him a multi million dollar offer he cant refuse. So lets focus on other players we should hunt. It all depends how our players can stand up this year will depend on what we require for next year. I am super impressed with this years draft group, but its still going to take us a few years to improve, possibly this year we win 5 games and end up second last.

We have improved the last 2 seasons and no reason we can't do it again this season. If we only win 5 games (same as last year) then the year is a failure given the senior talent we've added along side the junior development we should see. 7 or 8 wins should be the aim if not more.

 

[eaglesnutcase]

We have improved the last 2 seasons and no reason we can't do it again this season. If we only win 5 games (same as last year) then the year is a failure given the senior talent we've added along side the junior development we should see. 7 or 8 wins should be the aim if not more.

I agree.Injuries and time to adapt the new game plan will be the limiting factors . I think we have some great talent.
With Shanahan,OA,Waterman,Reid and JW look great. Barnett seems to be getting back on track according to training reports. We may be becoming the land of the giants but WC have always liked quality bigmen.

 

[WCE777]

They will, but it will be harder. The new pick value's will limit this and change trading expectations.

Eg Picks 13 and 21 will now be equivalent to pick 4

May throw a spanner into the potential Sydney trade scenario's, and others. Round 1 picks are not the same any more.

The draft change adding another element to upcoming trade frenzy

Cal Twomey takes a look at how changes to the points model could impact this year's Trade Period

www.afl.com.au

it seems more equitable TBH.
Also why a club like GC will be keen to trade down to accumulate picks for their academy players.
Having 3 1st round picks is a big draft haul but would expect that only 2 academy players are projected would make the 1st round.
If GC academy players go pick 5, 15, 25 they will have roughly 1500 points left after matching bids, they may also have 2 further academy players from 3rd round on so will need another 300 points roughly.
They will be looking to trade at least 1 of their 1st round picks for later picks or into next year, basically have pick 10 left over in points value so I would 100% be going after this if I am WC.
Having a top 5 player in the draft means they will be limited on what they can do list wise, they may trade out and trade back in to get a list need but they will be trading lots of their draft capital for points out of the 1st round imo.

 

[briztoon]

it seems more equitable TBH.
Also why a club like GC will be keen to trade down to accumulate picks for their academy players.
Having 3 1st round picks is a big draft haul but would expect that only 2 academy players are projected would make the 1st round.
If GC academy players go pick 5, 15, 25 they will have roughly 1500 points left after matching bids, they may also have 2 further academy players from 3rd round on so will need another 300 points roughly.
They will be looking to trade at least 1 of their 1st round picks for later picks or into next year, basically have pick 10 left over in points value so I would 100% be going after this if I am WC.
Having a top 5 player in the draft means they will be limited on what they can do list wise, they may trade out and trade back in to get a list need but they will be trading lots of their draft capital for points out of the 1st round imo.

Kalani White more than likely nominates the Dee’s over GC. There’s a lot of talk amongst QLD circles that his selection in the National Academy was very much a “political” selection. He’s still viewed as significantly behind GC top 4 prospects.

Jai Murray is right up there with Dylan Patterson in terms of talent, but there’s only so many mids that could be selected for the national academy. Was an U16 All Australian with the other GC boys, and played 7 VFL games last year as a bottom ager.

 

[WCE_phil]

Are you expecting Dan Curtin to have a breakout as a key position player?

“Smith is bust lookout for me” - is there a typo here? Are you suggesting Jagga Smith is a bust?

Apologies was just waking up. Yes, I personally think Jagga Smith will be a bust. He might be a role player but as far as a pick 3 goes I think he is a bust. I think it is incredibly unlikely he is able to play his style of game with his height and slim frame at the next level.

Whether it falls apart due to the slim frame and injury or just because he won't have the strength or truly elite skill to stack up to the best mids in the game we'll see.

 

[Elite Pete]

This would all go close to ruling them out for Chad Warner.

 

[stallon]

Makes it a 2 horse race for Warner, us vs Sydney. Likely we will win it.
Get Corey on a wing too.

Where does that leave us position-wise for the future?
Midfield more or less finished, forward line well covered, d50 is pending Barnett/Bazzo/VanEs/Brock's performance this year and ruck if Flynn is fit is fine.

2026 round 1 starting with Warner, Reid and Hewett in the middle sounds pretty good

 

[juddy_Like]

Apologies was just waking up. Yes, I personally think Jagga Smith will be a bust. He might be a role player but as far as a pick 3 goes I think he is a bust. I think it is incredibly unlikely he is able to play his style of game with his height and slim frame at the next level.

Whether it falls apart due to the slim frame and injury or just because he won't have the strength or truly elite skill to stack up to the best mids in the game we'll see.

Imagine trading two whole draft hands for Chris Masten 2.0

 

[Byron_Clanger]

This would all go close to ruling them out for Chad Warner.

Yeah, unless they got the Geelong style 'salary' cap.

 

[Byron_Clanger]

Apologies was just waking up. Yes, I personally think Jagga Smith will be a bust. He might be a role player but as far as a pick 3 goes I think he is a bust. I think it is incredibly unlikely he is able to play his style of game with his height and slim frame at the next level.

Whether it falls apart due to the slim frame and injury or just because he won't have the strength or truly elite skill to stack up to the best mids in the game we'll see.

I don't know how you can foresee someone being a bust when they haven't played a second of action yet. We've seen enough players over the journey with small frames fill out nicely after a few pre-seasons. Fyfe was as skinny as a rake when he started. Hell, look at the Bont

 

[WCE_phil]

I don't know how you can foresee someone being a bust when they haven't played a second of action yet. We've seen enough players over the journey with small frames fill out nicely after a few pre-seasons. Fyfe was as skinny as a rake when he started. Hell, look at the Bont

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Yep and see the width of the bont's shoulders, length of his arms and thickness of his neck. Was always going to end up a larger frame. Fyfe was the same.

I mean i've only watched about 15 hours or so hours of tape and seen 9-10 live matches of Smith but it's my feeling on him.

 

[WCE777]

This would all go close to ruling them out for Chad Warner.

sources have told?

 

[ep2018]

This would all go close to ruling them out for Chad Warner.

We better pretend we want him to drive his price up like they will for Warner and us.

 

[WCE777]

Makes it a 2 horse race for Warner, us vs Sydney. Likely we will win it.
Get Corey on a wing too.

Where does that leave us position-wise for the future?
Midfield more or less finished, forward line well covered, d50 is pending Barnett/Bazzo/VanEs/Brock's performance this year and ruck if Flynn is fit is fine.

2026 round 1 starting with Warner, Reid and Hewett in the middle sounds pretty good

100% agree with that.
1 more elite mid after Warner would round us out pretty well for the foreseeable future.
Elite KDEF like Curtin and an elite distributer of HB would probably round out the young list.
Ruck ready to go in trade period 2026 would be the finishing touch, 24-26yo with 5-7 years of good footy 204cm+.
Moyle or Reidy would be my choice, stuck behind others and have size and ability to compete.
Sounds nice doesn't it, Warner, Reid, Hewett, support crew of Hutch, Hall, Johnston, B Allan, Davis, Gross, Corey in the young brigade, Yeo, Kelly until 2027 Baker and Graham after that for another 2 years after that, serious grunt and some serious wing/outside players in the young crew.

 

[amazingjoshy]

There's going early, and then there's the West writing trade stories in January...

 

[ArdentEagle]

Sharp seems the missing piece of the puzzle to me for our new midfield. Yeo is getting long in the tooth.
Add Sharp to the mix and that is one hell of a brutal, dynamic midfield

 

[stallon]

100% agree with that.
1 more elite mid after Warner would round us out pretty well for the foreseeable future.

I dont think we even need that. Reid, Warner, Hewett, and any combo of the rest of the young mids Allan, Ginbey, Gross, Hall, etc will be more than fine. Most finals midfields dont have that level of talent, Reid and Warner puts us ahead of most teams immediately
Wings covered by some combo of Co.Warner, Dewar, Hutch, Davis, Banfield, etc.

Elite KDEF like Curtin and an elite distributer of HB would probably round out the young list.
Ruck ready to go in trade period 2026 would be the finishing touch, 24-26yo with 5-7 years of good footy 204cm+.
Moyle or Reidy would be my choice, stuck behind others and have size and ability to compete.

Moyle goes to Vic for sure if anywhere unfortunately, he will get good offers to go home, he already did. Hes signed long term at GC and is probably 1 year away from having the #1 ruck spot anyway.

Sounds nice doesn't it, Warner, Reid, Hewett, support crew of Hutch, Hall, Johnston, B Allan, Davis, Gross, Corey in the young brigade, Yeo, Kelly until 2027 Baker and Graham after that for another 2 years after that, serious grunt and some serious wing/outside players in the young crew.

Yeah, well stocked. Ive been seeing how over-stocked Freo have been in young talent for the last couple of years, well thats about to be us, even if we dont get Warner.

 

[WCE777]

I dont think we even need that. Reid, Warner, Hewett, and any combo of the rest of the young mids Allan, Ginbey, Gross, Hall, etc will be more than fine. Most finals midfields dont have that level of talent, Reid and Warner puts us ahead of most teams immediately
Wings covered by some combo of Co.Warner, Dewar, Hutch, Davis, Banfield, etc.

Moyle goes to Vic for sure if anywhere unfortunately, he will get good offers to go home, he already did. Hes signed long term at GC and is probably 1 year away from having the #1 ruck spot anyway.

Yeah, well stocked. Ive been seeing how over-stocked Freo have been in young talent for the last couple of years, well thats about to be us, even if we dont get Warner.

Fair enough, I think we need 1 high quality mid more, Yeo, Kelly are nearly done and need to be replaced, all the others will make a nice complement of players wherever they finish up in our team.
Wings look good don't they.
Didn't know Moyle had some good offers last year and can understand why they signed him to a long contract, breakable/over pay if the right man.

 

[stallon]

Fair enough, I think we need 1 high quality mid more, Yeo, Kelly are nearly done and need to be replaced, all the others will make a nice complement of players wherever they finish up in our team.

We would have Warner and Allan, plus we add Hewett his year to replace those two. 5 mids can fit in the 22 man squad: Warner, Reid, Hewett, Allan plus Hall/Gross/Ginbey/whoever.
More than covered

We will have picks in the meantime anyway, but id focus the earlier picks on half backs or making sure our KPDs are covered

Wings look good don't they.
Didn't know Moyle had some good offers last year and can understand why they signed him to a long contract, breakable/over pay if the right man.

The pick required to drag him across wouldnt be a late pick, I dont even think GC entertain it for less than a late first rounder when Witts is their only other ruckman ready to go.

 

[We_The_West]

We better pretend we want him to drive his price up like they will for Warner and us.

Let's not pretend let's go full send for him.

Absolute gun of a player!

 

[Cuzz09]

Did we get anything for JD?

What pick did it return? and who was that player?

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[eaglevision]

Did we get anything for JD?

What pick did it return? and who was that player?

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Pick 68. Clarke chucked it in with pick 3 and 63 to Carlton as part of our genius trade strategy because we weren’t getting reamed enough in that deal.

 

[Doashuey]

There's going early, and then there's the West writing trade stories in January...

He says in the 2025 draft thread that is 80 pages long in mid January...

 

[Cuzz09]

Pick 68. Clarke chucked it in with pick 3 and 63 to Carlton as part of our genius trade strategy because we weren’t getting reamed enough in that deal.

I'm gonna go with we got JD for Bo Allan then

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[eaglevision]

I'm gonna go with we got JD for Bo Allan then

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Yep that’s how Matt Clarke rationalised it too.