Draft Expert Davo-27's 2024 Draft Thread

[KrispyKreme]

Difference being your club recognised what a role player of FA age is worth plus they were contracted. Brady must be pumped he’s no longer the worst list manager in the competition. Oh there is a word:

f****d.

Anyway back to the draft. You guys splitting 2 and F2 for 6 and 10 like a normal club and taking Tauru and Armstrong/Shanahan? Darling will be a lot better acquisition than many are giving him credit for but you need another high quality developing KPF ready to play regular senior footy in 3-4 years.

Pick 2 & F1
For
Pick 6 & 11

 

[Davo-27]

Doughton and Toner from Dandenong Stingrays could be surprise pick ups come draft time, maybe late or rookie chances.

 

[Smythe]

Doughton and Toner from Dandenong Stingrays could be surprise pick ups come draft time, maybe late or rookie chances.

Toner definitely has something

 

[bungalow_bill]

Pick 2 & F1
For
Pick 6 & 11

A terrible trade for North.

 

[Wrenny]

Toner definitely has something

Wonder if he’ll ‘ink’ a contract soon?

 

[Ysaye]

Wonder if he’ll ‘ink’ a contract soon?

Should do if he moves like a jet or delivers his mark with pixel precision.

 

[Wrenny]

Should do if he moves like a jet or delivers his mark with pixel precision.

 

[The Talent Scout]

Difference being your club recognised what a role player of FA age is worth plus they were contracted. Brady must be pumped he’s no longer the worst list manager in the competition. Oh there is a word:

f****d.

Anyway back to the draft. You guys splitting 2 and F2 for 6 and 10 like a normal club and taking Tauru and Armstrong/Shanahan? Darling will be a lot better acquisition than many are giving him credit for but you need another high quality developing KPF ready to play regular senior footy in 3-4 years.

Yeah, pretty much spot on there eaglevision, I'm happy with Jack Darling at the club, I know some are not thrilled but he'll go okay and be there to teach and help our young key forwards so that's another plus, pick #2 and a possible future 2nd rounder for Richmond's picks #6 and #10 sounds about right, some people will question why not pick 11?

The answer is quite simple, because in this scenario IF the tigers have pick 10 I'm fairly sure after picking two gun midfielders they go a gun key forward, that is what I would be doing from a tigers point of view from the first three picks, where as if they have pick #11, having the pick before them we would probably take the best key forward even though the tigers supposedly like Jack Whitlock and Jonty Faull, I find it extremely hard that they would not jump at the chance to draft Harry.

 

[jthanos]

But is Finn better than Tauru + Reid or Langford + Armstrong? Who would you rather have?

Million dollar question we wont be able to answer until 2030 !!

 

[The Talent Scout]

Pick 2 & F1
For
Pick 6 & 11

No. I generally think some people are of the opinion that we are going to just do a trade like this because clubs know we are after key position talent and "hey", you get that extra pick early in the first round and that your not going to select Alix or Harry {if they are top two on our whiteboard} at pick 2, surely? We will look at trading in our future first after we see who wants our pick 2 bad enough and believe me, someone will, even in this draft.

So worst case scenario is that we take one of the gun midfielders to finish of our midfield {replaces Tarryn} and with our future first we get our gun key forward, we are actually in the drivers seat and clubs are aware of this, if you want a gun midfielder you will come to us, if you don't, then take your own picks to the draft, in the tigers case, now you see what I said there, that is what it will come down too for your second pick in this draft. YOUR GOING TO GET THE GUN OF YOUR CHOICE.

If you keep your picks, I highly doubt you get the gun midfielder of your choice at pick #6, percentage wise it would be very very unlikely, now some supporters will probably say we will still get a top player at pick #6, but I highly doubt it won't be the player of your choice and with the picks you've assembled you have to take the two best midfielders that is on your whiteboard with the players that have left your club.

Most of the time what supporters want and what clubs do are sometimes so far apart, well lets just say that its quite interesting at some of the trade picks scenario's. West Coast are a prime example of supporters and the club being about 100 miles apart on these sort of issues, not supporters, but the clubs, if agreed upon, will be a fair deal for both clubs, if not the deal won't take place and like Carlton did to secure their gun midfielder in this draft, someone will come calling and if that happens, another gun midfielder bites the dust and that list of gun midfielders are shrinking by the minute, I wouldn't be surprised if an agreement with a club hasn't already been ticked off, but as supporters we aren't going to know, so its all a waiting game, for the moment.

 

[Davo-27]

Sam Lalor is nearly certain to go pick 1 now, Richmond seems keen and have taken their favourite of the top 8-10 which is a unique situation to a unique year where there was no clear stand out, Lalor is a top end talent and should be able to play a role for the Tigers rise up the ladder in a couple years.

i dont think a trade will get done for pick 2, because i dont think the clubs are in agreement, so pick 6 might be Langford? at a guess.

 

[Howzat1]

Doughton and Toner from Dandenong Stingrays could be surprise pick ups come draft time, maybe late or rookie chances.

Both will miss … quality youngsters but it’s tough to get in a list

 

[KrispyKreme]

No. I generally think some people are of the opinion that we are going to just do a trade like this because clubs know we are after key position talent and "hey", you get that extra pick early in the first round and that your not going to select Alix or Harry {if they are top two on our whiteboard} at pick 2, surely? We will look at trading in our future first after we see who wants our pick 2 bad enough and believe me, someone will, even in this draft.

So worst case scenario is that we take one of the gun midfielders to finish of our midfield {replaces Tarryn} and with our future first we get our gun key forward, we are actually in the drivers seat and clubs are aware of this, if you want a gun midfielder you will come to us, if you don't, then take your own picks to the draft, in the tigers case, now you see what I said there, that is what it will come down too for your second pick in this draft. YOUR GOING TO GET THE GUN OF YOUR CHOICE.

If you keep your picks, I highly doubt you get the gun midfielder of your choice at pick #6, percentage wise it would be very very unlikely, now some supporters will probably say we will still get a top player at pick #6, but I highly doubt it won't be the player of your choice and with the picks you've assembled you have to take the two best midfielders that is on your whiteboard with the players that have left your club.

Most of the time what supporters want and what clubs do are sometimes so far apart, well lets just say that its quite interesting at some of the trade picks scenario's. West Coast are a prime example of supporters and the club being about 100 miles apart on these sort of issues, not supporters, but the clubs, if agreed upon, will be a fair deal for both clubs, if not the deal won't take place and like Carlton did to secure their gun midfielder in this draft, someone will come calling and if that happens, another gun midfielder bites the dust and that list of gun midfielders are shrinking by the minute, I wouldn't be surprised if an agreement with a club hasn't already been ticked off, but as supporters we aren't going to know, so its all a waiting game, for the moment.

The last thing you need is a midfielder you have plenty????

A terrible trade for North.

North get two positions they are screaming for and in a deep draft seeing as they coughed up pick 25 for Caleb Daniels. We get an earlier pick to guarantee pick 1&2
I either way they are the team who is desperate to trade they have to pay overs.
I also don’t think they are bottom four next year so future first is likely pick 5-8 in my opinion.

 

[tigs2010]

Sam Lalor is nearly certain to go pick 1 now, Richmond seems keen and have taken their favourite of the top 8-10 which is a unique situation to a unique year where there was no clear stand out, Lalor is a top end talent and should be able to play a role for the Tigers rise up the ladder in a couple years.

i dont think a trade will get done for pick 2, because i dont think the clubs are in agreement, so pick 6 might be Langford? at a guess.

Think Langford will be gone. Smillie seems likely at this pick assuming North go FOS.

 

[blueiris]

Sam Lalor is nearly certain to go pick 1 now, Richmond seems keen and have taken their favourite of the top 8-10 which is a unique situation to a unique year where there was no clear stand out, Lalor is a top end talent and should be able to play a role for the Tigers rise up the ladder in a couple years.

i dont think a trade will get done for pick 2, because i dont think the clubs are in agreement, so pick 6 might be Langford? at a guess.

maybe not but don't count out Adelaide at pick 4 and a future 2nd for 10 and 18

 

[sydney_gws]

No - we’re not trading out of this years draft, only potentially up or back in

So 8 for 15,16 you would say no to.

 

[Obeanie1]

They play different roles.

Langford is a midfielder who can win plenty of footy, take strong contested marks, run all day, but limited speed

Travaglia is an intercept specialist who can create counter attack/Turn over footy, run and carry, has speed, positions well in defence, he can then run forward as an option in the same play as he intercepts.

It's like asking, who is better? Dangerfield or Stewart for Geelong? (differences in style and ability, not a direct comparison)

Is Travagalia better than a mid who cant play elsewhere rated in the 2nd round? (Not Langford just an example....say a Gross this year).

Different types of player. However Travagalia would be rated the better player.

Is Whitfield a better player than say a inside mid / flanker like a Taylor Adams?

 

[sydney_gws]

Pick 2 & F1
For
Pick 6 & 11

I think to do this you need to trade down first to get more value for pick 11.
Say 11 for 16,21.
Trade 11, 16, 21 for 2, F1

 

[BigFella!]

If you look at the Richmond and North Melbourne potential pick swap situation based upon the points system, Pick 2 is worth 2517 points. There is a likely bid on Levi Ashcroft between pick 1 and pick 5 which will see Richmond's pick 6 most likely devalued to pick 7 and worth 1644. Richmond's pick 11 will most likely be devalued with bids on Ashcroft, Lombard and Kako to pick 14, and a value of 1161 points, totalling 2,805 points which is roughly 11% more than what North Melbourne is offering. Richmond's pick 18 will be devalued to pick 21 worth 878 points which equates to 2522 which is about as close as one is going to get to a fair trade on the points system. I understand why North would be pushing for picks 6 and 10/11, and I understand why Richmond would be saying that picks 6 and 18 is fair when taking into account potential bids on F/S and Academy products.

 

[THE_GUN]

Difference being your club recognised what a role player of FA age is worth plus they were contracted. Brady must be pumped he’s no longer the worst list manager in the competition. Oh there is a word:

f****d.

Anyway back to the draft. You guys splitting 2 and F2 for 6 and 10 like a normal club and taking Tauru and Armstrong/Shanahan? Darling will be a lot better acquisition than many are giving him credit for but you need another high quality developing KPF ready to play regular senior footy in 3-4 years.

Sonds like you actually think thats a good trade for north ?
In that scenario they are getting torched hard and even i can admit to that

Anything less than #6 , #11 , #18 is getting robbed

 

[THE_GUN]

Sam Lalor is nearly certain to go pick 1 now, Richmond seems keen and have taken their favourite of the top 8-10 which is a unique situation to a unique year where there was no clear stand out, Lalor is a top end talent and should be able to play a role for the Tigers rise up the ladder in a couple years.

i dont think a trade will get done for pick 2, because i dont think the clubs are in agreement, so pick 6 might be Langford? at a guess.

I would be extremely happy to tale Lalor with #1 and thats just my personal view
There are some that think FOS is the #1 then there are others that think Jagga and even Draper/Langford are the 2nd best player in the top 6/7 then we had Smillie rated #1 around june/July. So there is no clear #1 this year

Lalor & Jagga / Langford / Smillie / Draper I think thats a pretty good 2 at the top end

 

[THE_GUN]

So 8 for 15,16 you would say no to.

I would say St Kilda say No

They would have their eye on Armstrong and a top mid

 

[bone2468]

I would be extremely happy to tale Lalor with #1 and thats just my personal view
There are some that think FOS is the #1 then there are others that think Jagga and even Draper/Langford are the 2nd best player in the top 6/7 then we had Smillie rated #1 around june/July. So there is no clear #1 this year

Lalor & Jagga / Langford / Smillie / Draper I think thats a pretty good 2 at the top end

Lalor reminds me of Taranto with more goal sense would be a good get and think he would start round 1

 

[Wrenny]

Keep the early picks for mine. Look to do something potentially with 18,20,23 & 24.

Would Port do 13 & F2 for 18 & 23?
(Pick numbers not including bids etc)
1. Lalor
6. Smith/Langford/Smillie
10. Travaglia/Lindsay
11. Allan/Berry
13. Shanahan
20. Trainor/Whitlocks

24 for a F1 next year.

2025 have our 1st + Traded in 1st
Our 2nd plus Ports 2nd

 

[THE_GUN]

Lalor reminds me of Taranto with more goal sense would be a good get and think he would start round 1

I honestly cannot see anything in his game that reminds me of TT

More foward power and much better kick