Live Event Draft Day! - Live Chat Thread 2019

[Taylor]

ROUND 1

1 Gold Coast - Matt Rowell 2 Gold Coast - Noah Anderson 3 Melbourne - Luke Jackson 4 GWS - Lachie Ash 5 Sydney - Dylan Stephens 6 Adelaide - Fischer McAsey 7 Fremantle - Hayden Young

8 Fremantle - Caleb Serong 9 Fremantle - Liam Henry [Academy] 10 GWS - Tom Green [Academy] 11 Gold Coast - Sam Flanders 12 Melbourne - Kysaiah Pickett 13 Hawthorn - Will Day 14 Port Adelaide - Miles Bergman

15 Western Bulldogs - Cody Weightman 16 Geelong - Cooper Stephens 17 Carlton - Brodie Kemp 18 Port Adelaide - Mitch Georgiades 19 Geelong - Sam De Koning 20 Carlton - Sam Philp 21 Richmond - Thomson Dow

Spoiler: ROUND 2

22 Brisbane Lions - Deven Robertson 23 Port Adelaide - Dylan Williams 24 Adelaide - Harry Schoenberg 25 Port Adelaide - Jackson Mead FS 26 Sydney - William Gould 27 Gold Coast - Jeremy Sharp 28 Adelaide - Joshua Worrell 29 Hawthorn - Finn Maginness FS 30 Essendon - Harrison Jones 31 North Melbourne - Charlie Comben 32 Melbourne - Trent Rivers 33 Brisbane Lions - Brock Smith

34 North Melbourne - Jack Mahony 35 North Melbourne - Flynn Perez 36 Sydney - Elijah Taylor 37 Brisbane Lions - Keidean Coleman 38 Essendon - Nick Bryan 39 Sydney - Chad Warner 40 Collingwood - Jay Rantall 41 Geelong - Francis Evans 42 Adelaide - Ronin O'Connor 43 Richmond - Noah Cumberland 44 Richmond - William Martyn

Spoiler: ROUND 3

45 Collingwood - Trent Bianco 46 Richmond - Hugo Ralphsmith 47 Carlton - Sam Ramsay 48 Adelaide - Lachlan Gollant 49 West Coast - Callum Jamieson

50 Geelong - Cameron Taheny 51 GWS - Jake Riccardi 52 St Kilda - Ryan Byrnes 53 Western Bulldogs - Louis Butler 54 Richmond - Bigoa Nyuon

Spoiler: ROUND 4

55 Collingwood - Trey Ruscoe 56 Essendon - Ned Cahill 57 Hawthorn - Josh Morris 58 West Coast - Ben Johnson 59 Brisbane Lions - Jason Prior 60 Gold Coast - Jy Farrar 61 Fremantle - Minairo Frederick 62 Western Bulldogs - Riley Garcia

Spoiler: ROUND 5

63 Essendon - Lachlan Johnson 64 St Kilda - Leo Connolly 65 GWS - Thomas Hutchesson

Pick Trades here: https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/thre...s-and-free-agency-moves.1229926/post-63749542

 

[Daniels Riches]

I've heard whispers that North might try and package 32 and 47 for Brisbane's 23 so they can get Robertson. Didn't think he'd survive that long. Time will tell....

Would be a big no from the Lions


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[Weiterbot23]

Why should we have bid on Green? didn't fit our plans. Pickett isn't a reach and we will see about Jackson, go home factor my worry.

GWS would have matched and you would have an extra player to chose from at 10

 

[dlb99]

Yes he loves doubling down on mistakes.

Played very well 2nd half of 2019.

 

[Andre the Giant]

Without SOS GWS would = GC

Again, completely off the mark.

Firstly, we had 12 months and a lot more currency than GCS.

Secondly, the AFL made better decisions by giving us an icon in Kevin Sheedy as a spiritual leader and charismatic face of the club and Mark Williams as an experienced coach.

Thirdly, we were fortuitous to draw from a much better pool of 17yo talent than GCS and grab players pre draft like Cameron, Treloar and Shiel.

Fourthly, Gubby Allan and crew came up with the inspired idea of utilising Breakfast Point and turning it into a college style environment which the young players enjoyed. They kept them together and got them to bond and buy into a culture.

Fifthly, we targeted younger experienced players like Ward, Davis and Scully as well as some mongrel in Mummy and cheeky class in Shaw who have ended up great leaders.

Sixthly, we have been magnificently led by a hard head in Dave Matthews, an ex AFL man who knows how to play the game and is not intimidated my anyone.

They are the reasons we are not currently GCS, but GCS are now getting their stuff together and will eventually be successful.

SOS just happened to be in the right place at the right time. Yes he got some picks right (notably Kelly and Lobb), but he also burned a heap of currency and overall did a poor job with the unprecedented currency he had at his disposal.

Happy to have Caruso over him every day of the week.

 

[Harris Specter]

I've heard whispers that North might try and package 32 and 47 for Brisbane's 23 so they can get Robertson. Didn't think he'd survive that long. Time will tell....

Haha what is this stupid trade doing here?

 

[Cobwebs]

GWS would have matched and you would have an extra player to chose from at 10

Not our job to keep clubs honest for the rest of you. Adelaide didn't have to trade them pick 4, Saints didn't have to trade them pick 6. Whinge at someone else.

 

[Haychh]

Stoked with Kemp & Philp for Pick 9. Kemp could be anything. Rivers Ralphsmith Robertson or Honey would be good at 44. There is some good talent left including some talls.

I think we are going to be much better off than if we landed Papley

The Stocker trade just gets better and better

Great Trade/Draft period for Blues. Add another young talent plus Martin maybe Webb as a rookie and we now have the depth to push for finals in 2020. Then 2021 watch out

Not sure how you pulled it off after reading the first couple sentences but that post got progressively more and more delusional as it went on.

 

[Pykie]

Balmers Day 2 Mock Draft:

AFL phantom draft: How the remaining picks should play out — and there are some hidden gems

Phantom Draft: How remaining picks will play out — and there are some hidden gems

www.foxsports.com.au

 

[Soapy V]

Not sure how you pulled it off after reading the first couple sentences but that post got progressively more and more delusional as it went on.

Time will tell

 

[Mitchell54]

Is Deven Robertson a clone of James Worpel?

- Competitive beast
- Known for poor kicking in draft year.
- Both captained a team to premiership(Robertson for WA, Worpel for Geelong Falcons)
- Both featured in the Under 18's All-Australian team
- Both slid further than expected

 

[Haychh]

Balmers Day 2 Mock Draft:

AFL phantom draft: How the remaining picks should play out — and there are some hidden gems

Phantom Draft: How remaining picks will play out — and there are some hidden gems

www.foxsports.com.au

Has us taking a Ruck and a 187cm forward with our first 2 picks. Zero chance

 

[Mofra]

Academy bidding will have all the shuffling of a craps table.

I can't imagine how many live trades will happen next year.

 

[Mr Meeseeks]

Unsure if mentioned earlier, but Flanders does not look happy to be going to the Suns

Oh man, his family told a story when he was picked.

He would of been sitting there knowing he had slid down the order. Probably pretty content after Freos picks with 3 vics clubs up next in Carlton, Melb and hawthorn. He and his folks would of been quietly confident he was staying in Vic....

Then bam! Blues have traded their pick. Oh shit. Maybe they wont pick you Sam. Oh shit!

 

[RUNVS]

Is Deven Robertson a clone of James Worpel?

- Competitive beast
- Known for poor kicking in draft year.
- Both captained a team to premiership(Robertson for WA, Worpel for Geelong Falcons)
- Both featured in the Under 18's All-Australian team
- Both slid further than expected

Worley did not slide anywhere near as much as Robertson has, though they do seem to have quite a bit in common as you pointed out.

 

[Weiterbot23]

Again, completely off the mark.

Firstly, we had 12 months and a lot more currency than GCS.

Secondly, the AFL made better decisions by giving us an icon in Kevin Sheedy as a spiritual leader and charismatic face of the club and Mark Williams as an experienced coach.

Thirdly, we were fortuitous to draw from a much better pool of 17yo talent than GCS and grab players pre draft like Cameron, Treloar and Shiel.

Fourthly, Gubby Allan and crew came up with the inspired idea of utilising Breakfast Point and turning it into a college style environment which the young players enjoyed. They kept them together and got them to bond and buy into a culture.

Fifthly, we targeted younger experienced players like Ward, Davis and Scully as well as some mongrel in Mummy and cheeky class in Shaw who have ended up great leaders.

Sixthly, we have been magnificently led by a hard head in Dave Matthews, an ex AFL man who knows how to play the game and is not intimidated my anyone.

They are the reasons we are not currently GCS, but GCS are now getting their stuff together and will eventually be successful.

SOS just happened to be in the right place at the right time. Yes he got some picks right (notably Kelly and Lobb), but he also burned a heap of currency and overall did a poor job with the unprecedented currency he had at his disposal.

Happy to have Caruso over him every day of the week.

A lot of SOS hate, it will be hard for you defend your position in 2-3 years when Carlton is top 4 off his rebuild here.

 

[Weiterbot23]

Not our job to keep clubs honest for the rest of you. Adelaide didn't have to trade them pick 4, Saints didn't have to trade them pick 6. Whinge at someone else.

Your clubs going nowhere and it's due to lack of imagination with trades and drafting.

 

[Weiterbot23]

Not sure how you pulled it off after reading the first couple sentences but that post got progressively more and more delusional as it went on.

What talent did Essendon add to their list?

And you cant include keeping players that desperately want out

 

[Dez!]

A lot of SOS hate, it will be hard for you defend your position in 2-3 years when Carlton is top 4 off his rebuild here.

The delusion is strong in you.

 

[Roksman]

A lot of SOS hate, it will be hard for you defend your position in 2-3 years when Carlton is top 4 off his rebuild here.

So that would be 7-8 years after he started? Holy shit you'd hope Carlton was close to top 4 after that long. What a masterstroke

 

[Lore]

No, I don't think you have factored in the live trades.

I did actually. The full explainer is in the draft order thread:

Resource - 2019 AFL Draft Order

Every trade as it happens!

www.bigfooty.com

If there’s something specific that you have in mind that looks wrong, post it over there and we’ll track it back to figure it out.

What I have matches with the AFL’s official version though so if I’ve missed anything so have they.

 

[Elmer_Hauser]

So that would be 7-8 years after he started? Holy shit you'd hope Carlton was close to top 4 after that long. What a masterstroke

He started at Carlton in 2015 actually..

 

[Roksman]

He started at Carlton in 2015 actually..

.... Yeah. So that means this is his 5th Draft. The post said 2-3 years time which would take it to 7-8 years later? Not that difficult mate, basic maths.

 

[Johnny Bananas]

WCE can’t trade their 2020 first as they have already traded their future second unless they get a future pick in return

That trade does give them a future second. But it won't happen anyway because WCE already traded their future first for Kelly.

 

[Elmer_Hauser]

Intrigued by what North and Essendon do with their picks ? North are in a good position to pick up a couple of sliders and bolster the depth of their list.

Think they are in good shape going forwards (finals probably a tad beyond them in 2020 though), but that pick swap with the Dees gives them an wonderful opportunity to pick up another gun kid and trade for an out of contract star at the end of next season.

 

[Weiterbot23]

So that would be 7-8 years after he started? Holy shit you'd hope Carlton was close to top 4 after that long. What a masterstroke

Which deal will be remembered as SOS’s best?

-Tom Bell and pick 23 for Charlie Curnow
-Henderson for Harry McKay
-Gibbs for two first round picks
-pick 4 (Ash) for 19 (Stocker), 17 (Kemp) and 20 (Philp)
-Yarran for Cuningham
-Jack Martin for nothing

Or are there other mastermind deals that I’m forgetting