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[Tonga Bob]

Freo fans: tonight hurts but at least be courteous to each other while venting.

Oppostion fans or anyone out to have a crack: don't post here. You will get banned and you will get points.

 

[PurpleEyes]

I think the point is that he's done nothing since. Three games and like 8 kicks total. He just looks completely shot.

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And which of our small forwards have looked great since that R3 match?
When you have just 40 inside50's you aren't giving your forwards much of a chance to shine.

For years I have witnessed Freo supporters gravitate to unproven youth in hope of finding pie in the sky solutions to our problems and for years we have struggled to field an experienced team that shows any forward cohesion.

It's been 26 years since a premiership team has won fielding less than 13x50club game players.
We had 12 tonight and yet supporters expect us to get better next week by dropping our experienced players for god knows who.
Supporters are way too reactionary.
If you want prolonged success like teams such as Geelong, you need subtle realignments, not wholesale changes.
We were flat tonight and the Slime, the footy gods and the umpires made us look much worse than we are, while making some supporters facing the facts that maybe we aren't as good as they hoped.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

And which of our small forwards have looked great since that R3 match?
When you have just 40 inside50's you aren't giving your forwards much of a chance to shine.

For years I have witnessed Freo supporters gravitate to unproven youth in hope of finding pie in the sky solutions to our problems and for years we have struggled to field an experienced team that shows any forward cohesion.

It's been 26 years since a premiership team has won fielding less than 13x50club game players.
We had 12 tonight and yet supporters expect us to get better next week by dropping our experienced players for god knows who.
Supporters are way too reactionary.
If you want prolonged success like teams such as Geelong, you need subtle realignments, not wholesale changes.
We were flat tonight and the Slime, the footy gods and the umpires made us look much worse than we are, while making some supporters facing the facts that maybe we aren't as good as they hoped.

That's all fantastic but he cant get to a contest. To get older, need to not lose players, not play ones who are completely cooked

 

[DMan 11]

I thought Fyfe was ok. Not great, but definitely not as bad as some are making out.

As for Erasmus, IMO I’m stamping his card and leaving him at Peel for a year. Slow in movement and mind not maketh the AFL player.

Our ball movement strategy is so rigid, other teams know exactly where and when we look to move.
Somethings gotta change here or this result will become the norm


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[G Mus]

Answer me this... why us Brayshaw not played in the midfield instead on a wing. 2 years ago our best mid. Now fyfe who isn't as good as him is playing mid and Brayshaw is pushed out.

Why do we have has been players still playing? Walters and Omarea are spent.

Brayshaw had the second most CBAs for us, they were just quick eagles clearances so easy to miss

 

[DocT]

Short memories.
Walters was named in our best only 3 weeks ago vs Adelaide.
4th best on ground according to the coaches votes (21 disposals).
Last season he was our 2nd best goal kicker (behind Amiss).

I remember fine and gave him 2 weeks pass on that basis.
But the last 3 weeks have all been very, very poor.
If Walters had just have had average games in the previous 2 weeks we probably would have won them both.
3 terrible games in a row is awful.
If we are serious as a team statements have to be made.
If he wants to play on in 2025 then he will rise to the challenge of a stint in Peel and show us all that he still has it. We all still love him!

 

[mightymouse75]

Really hope we don't overpay for an established player like lob, hogan or matera.
Would like to use at least 2 of our first rounders in the draft for a tall and a small.

 

[Deathly]

Really hope we don't overpay for an established player like lob, hogan or matera.
Would like to use at least 2 of our first rounders in the draft for a tall and a small.

Genuine Small and Medium who are FORWARDS first.
Not junior midfield rejects who were pushed into forward roles to survive at AFL.

 

[SPEEDWAGON]

that was hell

Not sure eagles or their supporters even believe in what happened

Again we are the stick for these losers redemption. They likely still suck for years to come and we can’t break out under real
Pressure with that forward line

 

[gaskin]

And which of our small forwards have looked great since that R3 match?
When you have just 40 inside50's you aren't giving your forwards much of a chance to shine.

For years I have witnessed Freo supporters gravitate to unproven youth in hope of finding pie in the sky solutions to our problems and for years we have struggled to field an experienced team that shows any forward cohesion.

It's been 26 years since a premiership team has won fielding less than 13x50club game players.
We had 12 tonight and yet supporters expect us to get better next week by dropping our experienced players for god knows who.
Supporters are way too reactionary.
If you want prolonged success like teams such as Geelong, you need subtle realignments, not wholesale changes.

That is all well and good but we aren't Geelong. We can't just pick and choose who we want to top up our list. We have to do it by bringing in the kids and giving them a go if the established isn't working which the established small forwards aren't.

 

[bushchook]

How long is it going to take for us to build the necessary footskills to counter a Richmond-style gameplan? I think longer than our premiership window will allow...

You don't really "build" footskills. You draft people who have them. I can't think of a single player who managed to learn to kick better if they started out kicking poorly. You build footskills when you are 8 years old, not 18.

 

[PurpleEyes]

I remember fine and gave him 2 weeks pass on that basis.
But the last 3 weeks have all been very, very poor.
If Walters had just have had average games in the previous 2 weeks we probably would have won them both.
3 terrible games in a row is awful.
If we are serious as a team statements have to be made.
If he wants to play on in 2025 then he will rise to the challenge of a stint in Peel and show us all that he still has it. We all still love him!

I just don't know what miracles people are expecting from any Walters replacements given I have so far only heard Simpson and a non Freo 26 year old in Wemm discussed. I'm surprised I'm not hearing requests for 31 year old retired Nathan Wilson's return given at least he is kicking goals in the WAFL.

Freo's 2024 small forwards so far;
Banfield 6 games 6.5
Emmett 6 games 4.1
Frederick 4 games 4.5
OMeara 5 games 0.3
Switkowski 5 games 3.4
Walters 6 games 6.6

Now if Walters is carrying an injury in the past 3 weeks then I get the discussion, but otherwise, focus on some of our bigger issues until we have options clearly better than Walters.

 

[Arkhitect]

You don't really "build" footskills. You draft people who have them. I can't think of a single player who managed to learn to kick better if they started out kicking poorly. You build footskills when you are 8 years old, not 18.

Agreed.

The only midfielder we have with notable footskills is Young. Johnson was drafted with supposedly excellent footskills but we're yet to really see that. Brayshaw's footskills are neat but not excellent. Fyfe's and Serong's are ok. Erasmus' aren't great.

Makes you wonder why we're trying to implement a 'fast posession by foot' style game if we're relying on these guys to do it?

 

[s_wd6]

I just don't know what miracles people are expecting from any Walters replacements given I have so far only heard Simpson and a non Freo 26 year old in Wemm discussed. I'm surprised I'm not hearing requests for 31 year old retired Nathan Wilson's return given at least he is kicking goals in the WAFL.

Freo's 2024 small forwards so far;
Banfield 6 games 6.5
Emmett 6 games 4.1
Frederick 4 games 4.5
OMeara 5 games 0.3
Switkowski 5 games 3.4
Walters 6 games 6.6

Now if Walters is carrying an injury in the past 3 weeks then I get the discussion, but otherwise, focus on some of our bigger issues until we have options clearly better than Walters.

Yeah I have no idea how any player in the WAFL can replace Walter's combined 19 touches 2 marks and 2 goals in the past three games. How ever will we find any player to give us more than 6 touches 1 mark and 1 goal a game? I guess we should just keep playing the 33 year old instead of blooding a 19 year old who can give us the same output with a much bigger room for improvement.

Seriously man, no one is denying that Walters is one of our greatest players and bleeds purple. But that doesn't change that he's been dog shit this season, and in the past three weeks especially. Literally who else in the league older than 25 is staying in their team with numbers like that every week. Talk about the Adelaide game all you want but he had more ball in that game than he did in the next three combined.

 

[Bradesmaen]

I was at the infamous game vs the crows where we kicked 1.7.13. round 15 back in 2009

As was I... Glad we never see days like that again. I even stayed til the end cause my brother and dad were with me as Crows fans.

 

[Bradesmaen]

.
If you want prolonged success like teams such as Geelong, you need subtle realignments, not wholesale changes.
We were flat tonight and the Slime, the footy gods and the umpires made us look much worse than we are, while making some supporters facing the facts that maybe we aren't as good as they hoped.

This is poor. Don't blame the umpires, don't bs with footy gods. We were shit and they were good. Nothing else is to blame.

 

[Freomaniac]

All week, we the supporters scoffed at the Eagles.
100 point win we said.
Players thought they had already won. They deserved tonight.
I had a yuck feeling about this game. Didn't think we would be pantsed ..

Just lazy and uninspired.
Just like our 2023.
Didn't see any aggression, fight or swagger.
It was a limp hand shake and a 19 year old squeezed hard and brought us down. (Fyfe)

In no way we deserved to win, though the umpiring was west coast all the way in the first. Robbing momentum and scoring goals for the bird poo.
3rd week without a home games a bit s**t.
Jackson had a down day. He has worked very hard this year.
Darcy's first game back.
Amiss going down at the starting blocks wasn't ideal.
Our best is pretty bloody good.

Going forward Alex needs to cut his Barbie hair, jom needs to be gone to peel forever, ras needs to relearn his trade at peel,
Banners has been horrible.
I can't see a future for him.
JL is very 2 dimensional.
Has he grown as a coach or is this him at his best ? Sighh

Dockers were arrogant, We expected to walk up and take the win. We underestimated the eagles. Make it a harsh reality chock and learning experience not to take anyone lightly. I said it earlier in the week.

I wont deny our best footy is good. Our best is good enought to beat certain sides.

Why does this club continue to be synonymous with these type of games. Isn’t it enough already? Just don’t ever fell like Fremantle will ever be taken seriously.

True... Sadly we are synonymous in losing bad games, even if we were half decent. This club lost to the demons at the MCG in 2009 despite having a 50 point lead.

It hurts when you talk up how good the dockers are then a game like this happens and it gets thrown at your face.

Over a 30 year stretch, theres only 2 periods in our history this clubs was either semi respected or semi taken seriously or both.

One era was the Chris Connolly era of 2002-7 when we made finals in 2003 and 2006. I have said we should of made finals every year between 2003-06.

The other time is The Ross Lyon era of 2012-5.

The concern with Switta is he isn't kicking many goals. What he does around the ground and with pressure is important though.

Hoping to see Simpson up there and at this point even developing Delean would be better than JOM or Walter running around.

Switta has to come in. Switta and Sturt on both forward Flanks. Its like a yin and yang thing to balance it out. Switkowski runs hard around the ground, chases and tackles.

Sam Sturt is the opposite. He runs to leads and kick set shot goals. But unlike switkowski, he cant tackle well or add defensive pressure.

I want Simpson and Delean rotated off the bench.

In fairness the Eagles played well. We looked as flat as a doe-doe.

2 weeks on the road (worth the experiment) and probably too much focus making up on lost time with (uh-hem) loved ones (wink-wink)

No point bemoaning certain players, the team collectively wasn’t there as we had expected.

They be back to normal next week

I think its more of a case the eagles got us at the right time. 2 weeks travelling at adelaide hurts. Both Adelaide oval games took their toll on us phyisically and mentally. We should be fine.

He wasn’t the difference though.
Banfield clearly gets overwhelmed playing half forward. He excelled at wing. Let him run.

Sturt and Fredrick can play half forward. They’re better options

Give Banfield a game on the wing then.

Banfield is getting panned for missing all those set shots tonight. he kicks 2 or 3 of them and the game changes.

Frederick is Similar to Walters. he can play forward flank and wing.

I have said my thoughts on Sturt. Let him play next week and kick 2 or 3 vs the dogs.

 

[FreoRicci]

Dockers were arrogant, We expected to walk up and take the win. We underestimated the eagles. Make it a harsh reality chock and learning experience not to take anyone lightly. I said it earlier in the week.

I wont deny our best footy is good. Our best is good enought to beat certain sides.

True... Sadly we are synonymous in losing bad games, even if we were half decent. This club lost to the demons at the MCG in 2009 despite having a 50 point lead.

It hurts when you talk up how good the dockers are then a game like this happens and it gets thrown at your face.

Over a 30 year stretch, theres only 2 periods in our history this clubs was either semi respected or semi taken seriously or both.

One era was the Chris Connolly era of 2002-7 when we made finals in 2003 and 2006. I have said we should of made finals every year between 2003-06.

The other time is The Ross Lyon era of 2012-5.

Switta has to come in. Switta and Sturt on both forward Flanks. Its like a yin and yang thing to balance it out. Switkowski runs hard around the ground, chases and tackles.

Sam Sturt is the opposite. He runs to leads and kick set shot goals. But unlike switkowski, he cant tackle well or add defensive pressure.

I want Simpson and Delean rotated off the bench.

I think its more of a case the eagles got us at the right time. 2 weeks travelling at adelaide hurts. Both Adelaide oval games took their toll on us phyisically and mentally. We should be fine.

Give Banfield a game on the wing then.

Banfield is getting panned for missing all those set shots tonight. he kicks 2 or 3 of them and the game changes.

Frederick is Similar to Walters. he can play forward flank and wing.

I have said my thoughts on Sturt. Let him play next week and kick 2 or 3 vs the dogs.

Game doesn’t change. Still 32 points behind.
His shot in the first quarter however was the momentum. Hit the post.

 

[FD2646]

Rumours that Young has done a hamstring (I will stress that these are only rumours at this stage, but spent the whole final quarter on the bench)

I was at the game (lucky me) and absolutely noticed Young clutch his hamstring at the start of the third quarter after following the ball down towards the eagles attacking 50m. Luckily it appears minor, but he absolutely grabbed at it and should not be risked next weekend.

Have had time to calm down (maybe not enough) but really think this game defines our season. If we miss finals after rebuilding since 2016, questions must be asked about the board, CEO and coach.

 

[wakojako]

Tonight was all mental, a combination of the gruelling games we've played and the awful schedule. Everyone is signaling out individuals as the issue but it's the team as a collective that is the issue. We've played some great football with the exact same players in our b22 squad. If you don't run through the banner with the right mindset you are at an extreme disadvantage. This has been a common theme among JLos tenure but it extends to the assistants and leadership group. Personnel issue just exacerbates the issue.

 

[Gimme the Fyfe]

I was at the infamous game vs the crows where we kicked 1.7.13. round 15 back in 2009

I was there too, also stayed until the end. My grandma was visiting from Europe and it was the only AFL game she ever saw. I swear to God she asked "are these scorelines customary in this sport"? At least we had a laugh by the end of it.

 

[mightymouse75]

I was at the game (lucky me) and absolutely noticed Young clutch his hamstring at the start of the third quarter after following the ball down towards the eagles attacking 50m. Luckily it appears minor, but he absolutely grabbed at it and should not be risked next weekend.

Have had time to calm down (maybe not enough) but really think this game defines our season. If we miss finals after rebuilding since 2016, questions must be asked about the board, CEO and coach.

Ouch. Young is 1 of , maybe the most important players we are have playing out there.
Was he iced up ?
Hope limoy was he ?
Why are we doing so many hammys again ?

 

[Geoff]

The standard was set last night. The "We are a good team" is a fallacy, where no better than our finishing position from last year. Season over and its round what 6? For the sake of my mental health I need to cut ties with this mob. No more.

 

[Yeti]

The most frustrating thing for me continues to be our lack of goal scorers. Say what you want about West Coast, their midfielders kick goals.

Their forwards, kick goals.

Our midfielders can't kick goals, definitely not from 50 out. Our forwards spend too much time worrying about chasing and tackling. Other than Amiss who is a genuine goal kicker for us?

Looking forward to the draft this hear where we pick a KPD, a sub 185cm midfielder and some skinny flankers just to top it off.

Club needs to prioritise putting the ball between the big sticks.

Also, I saw a lot of people complaining about a certain poster who continually bets against Freo. I put them on ignore about 6 months ago and the whole BF experience has been far more positive. Would reccomend.

 

[Fat Nyfe]

Is West Coast one of the most bizarre cases in AFL history? They’ve had a decent team on paper for the last 3 years, even despite injuries, but played like the worst team of all time so everyone assumed they’re all cooked and absolutely stink.
3 weeks ago they played the Bulldogs and Adam Simpson, an AFL premiership coach pre match says they’d just like to win a quarter (they didn’t).

Fast forward 3 weeks and you go okay, makes sense that they can win games with names like Yeo and Kelly out of the middle, McGovern and Barrass mopping up, and Waterman and Cripps up front, ****ing Darling has kicked 500 goals too.

And now due to inexplicably sucking so bad WAFL teams could’ve smashed them, they’ve stocked up on generational talent too.

 

[BStaff17]

We dominated them for 4/5 of the 1st quarter. I think F50 was 16-6 in favour of us and we kicked 3 points. Our mids then lost complete confidence in their movements and our forwards couldn't fire a shot they were so mentally done.
Mods aren't our issue IMO.
Momentum is real and we give it away.

Banfield missing a sitter at 7-2 with the dribble was a massive turning point.

Running into open goal it's happened at least 3 times in past 4 games from someone in the fwd line.

Just basic fundamentals you can have all the systems in place all across the ground.

It's generally useless if you can't kick goals.

Until we nail that part of the game on a regular basis we are wasting our time.