No Oppo Supporters General AFL Discussion #13 - Carlton Posters ONLY!

[Healer]

One day I'll tell you of the time I skidded into a steer....

We’re there skid marks ?

 

[Wickzki]

There's clearly two more obvious names given the media reports on both players. Anybody else and it would be absolutely shocking.

Please don't be us after we achieved something significant as a team for the first time in a decade.

Allegedly (according to the Reddit thread on same article) the article goes into no further details. Just names a "player from a Melbourne based finals team" so beating the paywall here seems pointless.

 

[branedotorg]

https://archive.md/cLHtK

 

[carlton_99]

Could be us, Pies, Saints or Demons.

 

[branedotorg]

they mention cocaine a few times in the article and the updated code that you can argue it was recreational, rather than performance enhancing for a 3mo rather than multiple year ban

 

[thylacine60]

We’re there skid marks ?

ooh yeah.......

 

[thylacine60]

https://archive.md/cLHtK

please no.........

 

[teagueyubeauty]

I reckon it’s Ginnivan…that trade went way too fast from zero chance to gone

And if it is, I would hope the AFL reverse the trade if Hawthorn wanted to not knowing what was about to come out


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[Aphrodite]

they mention cocaine a few times in the article and the updated code that you can argue it was recreational, rather than performance enhancing for a 3mo rather than multiple year ban

https://archive.md/zylZ8

The AFL complies with WADA’s anti-doping code, which is governed in Australia by SIA, and cocaine is listed on the WADA in-competition prohibited list of stimulants.
The penalty for an “in competition” positive test is up to four years’ suspension, although there are provisions for a lesser penalty in some situations.
While a four-year suspension is possible, under the AFL’s anti-doping code, if the player can prove the violation was not intentional or there are other circumstances, the penalty could be reduced to as little as a month.

 

[HaydossJ]

From a good source - it's not us. Melbourne player who has been in the media before (not Oliver).

 

[JoeyPBLUES]

I reckon it’s Ginnivan…that trade went way too fast from zero chance to gone

And if it is, I would hope the AFL reverse the trade if Hawthorn wanted to not knowing what was about to come out


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I reckon Clarry, hence the "concerns for his behaviour" from his club & the fact he was in hospital the other day after "hitting his head" and has also moved in with Gawn

 

[Aphrodite]

It's Joel Smith

https://archive.md/Gzkn1

Melbourne’s Joel Smith has tested positive to drugs late in the home and away season.
A urine sample taken from Smith after a game in the weeks leading up to the AFL finals returned positive for a banned substance, believed to be cocaine.

Smith tested positive after the round 23 game against Hawthorn.

 

[Jatz]

Is it considered performance enhancing?

As in, is this just a strike for him or will he see a ban due to testing positive around game day?

 

[Aphrodite]

AFL statement on Joel Smith

The AFL has released a statement on Melbourne player Joel Smith

www.afl.com.au

The AFL confirms that a mandatory provisional suspension (which is effective immediately) has been imposed on Melbourne FC player Joel Smith following notification to him by Sport Integrity Australia of an Adverse Analytical Finding (AAF) and a potential violation of the Australian Football Anti-Doping Code (Code).

It is asserted that a sample provided by Smith during an In-Competition doping control test on 20 August 2023 returned an AAF for the presence of Cocaine and its metabolite Benzoylecgonine being a Prohibited Substance under the Code.
Smith was tested after the Round 23 Melbourne vs Hawthorn game on Sunday August 20, 2023 and was notified by Sport Integrity Australia last week in relation to the finding. The AFL was made aware of the test results at the same time.

 

[Wickzki]

Is it considered performance enhancing?

As in, is this just a strike for him or will he see a ban due to testing positive around game day?

Potential 4 year ban under WADA code.


We almost lost the final against them because a campaigner played out of his mind.

 

[Blue__Balls]

This the same Joel Smith whose dad was going off his nut about Maynard vs. Brayshaw? Bit of egg on the face there - comes off the long run up to criticise a player for making high contact during a smother attempt, meanwhile his son is doing lines of banned/PE drugs during a finals campaign.

 

[Gethelred]

This the same Joel Smith whose dad was going off his nut about Maynard vs. Brayshaw? Bit of egg on the face there - comes off the long run up to criticise a player for making high contact during a smother attempt, meanwhile his son is doing lines of banned/PE drugs during a finals campaign.

Hypocrisy does not make one wrong.

 

[4flagsin5yrs]

Hypocrisy does not make one wrong.

Maybe, maybe not.

Depends.

 

[Gethelred]

Maybe, maybe not.

Depends.

I'd be interesting in knowing how.

 

[Wickzki]

Hypocrisy does not make one wrong.

Two entirely different issues. Don't see it as hypocrisy but his son is a right nut if the B sample comes back positive.

 

[Gethelred]

Two entirely different issues. Don't see it as hypocrisy but his son is a right nut if the B sample comes back positive.

I agree with both of these sentences.

 

[Aphrodite]

Club statement | Joel Smith

The Melbourne Football Club acknowledges the communication sent by AFL regarding Melbourne Player Joel Smith

www.melbournefc.com.au

THE Melbourne Football Club acknowledges the communication sent by AFL regarding Melbourne Player Joel Smith and the notification to him of an Adverse Analytical Finding, potential violation of the Australian Football Anti-Doping Code and imposition of a Provisional Suspension which is effective immediately.

As this matter is being investigated by Sport Integrity Australia, the Melbourne Football Club is unable to make any further comment at this time.

 

[Blue and Silver]

So the sample was from 20th of August. Presuming that was the A and that a B also got taken. Surely both are positive to be going public after he played the rest of the year out.

Couldn't miss finals of course

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[Bostonian]

Forever to now be known as Joel Sniff.

 

[Wickzki]

So the sample was from 20th of August. Presuming that was the A and that a B also got taken. Surely both are positive to be going public after he played the rest of the year out.

Couldn't miss finals of course

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They don't have the B sample back yet and knowing how these things work that could take a while

They've known for a few days. I think the AFL took care of trade week first then dealt with this.