Rumour GFC 2022 Player Trading, Drafting FA, Rumours and Wish lists PT2

[Turbocat]

Is that the pisstake Cleary account or the real one? I ask because it seems hilarious that Ned Guy is the head of the AFL's "player movement" after his ineptness at Collingwood forced the movement of Treloar to the Dogs!!!

Id like to know the full story on that. I think he was the lee majors in that situation. Did Buckley talk about Grundy the otehr day... their whole footy dept said no ...but those upstair said yes to his contract. so what sort of pressure was he under to be the guys to clean up ...other peoples choices? How much was all him?

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Whats to be worked out ..... details ?

The ripping up of the last 2 years of his gc contract and the specific salary details in the new 4/5 year contract that we will be signing with him and lodging with the afl..i assume we are just getting the $ on that ticked off before we trade the pick to gc.

 

[Jhye Clark 13]

I honestly have been going over this scenario in my head, haha. Something like GC keep 7 and we get 5, a Future second and Bowes, but hand over our Future 1st - which is very valuable to them.

More likely it doesn't happen though and we just get Pick 7 and try and trade up on the night with GC then (to get ahead of the Hawks).

I do have a feeling - if Sheezel is gone - that Hawthorn will take Clark at 6.

He's exactly what they need and will play 250+ games.

 

[Heckler]

Completely understand main Trade Thread melting over Cats.
Everyone was envious of Cats extended period of success.
Recently due to acquiring mature stars to top an aging list.
Desperately waiting for the Cats to fall due to age gap.
GF win shows Kittens have stepped up to help fill the gap
GFC ethos sacrifice salary for success has attracted talent.
Smart player management means room in cap available.
Potential 4 R1 draft picks + McKenna fixed this age gap
Cats will now avoid the fall and continue to be competitive.
The Cap and Trade system was designed to cycle success.
Cats have beaten the system.

 

[Jemaine]

On how would he feel. It would depend on our commitment to him. The way it appears ..t was driven by OH and it happened late. How does any player feel at this time of the year. probably crap.

Maybe publicly, but surely, surely, the Cats knew of his commitment way earlier in the year.

He's probably been briefed by Mack/Wells/Scott about what's happening in the background re the Sav (and possible Stephens and maybe even others) trade/s.

I'd put money on it.

 

[Turbocat]

The ripping up of the last 2 years of his gc contract and the specific salary details in the new 4/5 year contract that we will be signing with him and lodging with the afl..i assume we are just getting the $ on that ticked off before we trade the pick to gc.

5 minutes ..get it done ..its not like we are talking about millions dollars

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Read what I said.

It's up to the pies to FIND a Fr2

Ah I see. Yeah I think we might be holding off until we see a Grundy trade. If pies net a future 2nd we might put it to them that we can do a f2 to f1 upgrade for him

 

[year of the cat]

Id like to know the full story on that. I think he was the lee majors in that situation. Did Buckley talk about Grundy the otehr day... their whole footy dept said no ...but those upstair said yes to his contract. so what sort of pressure was he under to be the guys to clean up ...other peoples choices? How much was all him?

My understanding was that Guy oversaw all the cap/contract issues and Hine was left to organise talent identification. Unless Guy was made an unfortunate scape goat then I think that mess was pretty much all on him.

 

[Jhye Clark 13]

Maybe publicly, but surely, surely, the Cats knew of his commitment way earlier in the year.

He's probably been briefed by Mack/Wells/Scott about what's happening in the background re the Sav (and possible Stephens and maybe even others) trade/s.

I'd put money on it.

I wouldn't trade Stephens for a top 10 pick.

 

[Shadow89]

I do have a feeling - if Sheezel is gone - that Hawthorn will take Clark at 6.

He's exactly what they need and will play 250+ games.

Exactly. If Clark is still there at GC's pick though and we know Hawks want Clark, I think we'll have Cameron on speed dial to swap positions, given his love for us and disdain for the Hawks after the O'Meara debacle.

They want Olly Hollands, so they won't be fussed if they move back a bit, given that's their only likely selection this year.

 

[Pivo]

Is that the pisstake Cleary account or the real one? I ask because it seems hilarious that Ned Guy is the head of the AFL's "player movement" after his ineptness at Collingwood forced the movement of Treloar to the Dogs!!!

When I saw his name pop up a few days back and read his title I thought the same thing. Although, I don't think the Collingwood list got into the state it was on his watch, he just had to deal with it.

May be wrong but that was my memory of it.

Probably best remembered for not really being able to articulate why the club did what it did straight afterwards.

 

[Sky]

I don’t want to shit on a 20 year old who’d be excited to be coming home on his welcome to Geelong thread because I believe I’m better than that.

Can someone tell me why I should be excited? I feel like GWS won the trade so far

 

[Jhye Clark 13]

Exactly. If Clark is still there at GC's pick though and we know Hawks want Clark, I think we'll have Cameron on speed dial to swap positions, given his love for us and disdain for the Hawks after the O'Meara debacle.

They want Olly Hollands, so they won't be fussed if they move back a bit, given that's their only likely selection this year.

If we walk away from the draft with Clark we're in a really good spot.

Clark, Stephens and Bruhn will tear midfields apart in 3 years.

 

[year of the cat]

When I saw his name pop up a few days back and read his title I thought the same thing. Although, I don't think the Collingwood list got into the state it was on his watch, he just had to deal with it.

May be wrong but that was my memory of it.

Probably best remembered for not really being able to articulate why the club did what it did straight afterwards.

I'll have to ask a family member who was working there at the time. I do remember that interview. Fair to say that Guy would never make a great politician.

 

[D BRIDGE]

Im not sure many thought it was achievable ... because the esrablished fact was GWS would only accept a future. Now something like what you prognosticate is plausible

As I have mentioned a few times in the past... It's likely to all come together in the "non obvious" way.

Anyway, fingers crossed we can rob the Pies of Henry and hold our F1 next year.

I really can't see us wanting to part with it.

In saying that... I got no clue on how high Mac/Wells truly regard Henry.

As per usual... Time will tell.

 

[year of the cat]

Id like to know the full story on that. I think he was the lee majors in that situation. Did Buckley talk about Grundy the otehr day... their whole footy dept said no ...but those upstair said yes to his contract. so what sort of pressure was he under to be the guys to clean up ...other peoples choices? How much was all him?

Maybe he was the fall Guy. (like that?).

 

[tielgaz]

I don’t want to s**t on a 20 year old who’d be excited to be coming home on his welcome to Geelong thread because I believe I’m better than that.

Can someone tell me why I should be excited? I feel like GWS won the trade so far

You have to pay up for good players, GWS picked him up for p 12 we get him p 18 with 2 years experience. Should be happy with that..

 

[Sky]

If we walk away from the draft with Clark we're in a really good spot.

Clark, Stephens and Bruhn will tear midfields apart in 3 years.

Cooper Stephens? Isn’t he the guy who was compared to Fyfe pre-draft?

 

[Turbocat]

Completely understand main Trade Thread melting over Cats.
Everyone was envious of Cats extended period of success.
Recently due to acquiring mature stars to top an aging list.
Desperately waiting for the Cats to fall due to age gap.
GF win shows Kittens have stepped up to help fill the gap
GFC ethos sacrifice salary for success has attracted talent.
Smart player management means room in cap available.
Potential 4 R1 draft picks + McKenna fixed this age gap
Cats will now avoid the fall and continue to be competitive.
The Cap and Trade system was designed to cycle success.
Cats have beaten the system.

I guess thats one way to think on it ..... I tend to think the system is like a drug that was designed for one use ...and then someone else found an alternative way took at it and alternative use was found .

Sort of like Sildenafil, is an artificial compound that was originally synthesized and studied to treat hypertension (high blood pressure) and angina pectoris (a form of cardiovascular disease)


Sildenafil ... the chemical name for Viagra.


One might say what we have done to the system is what Viagra does for a lot of people. We were suppose to just fade off into a limp future of decrepitude ... instead what we have done is to stay active and infact become more potent.

To be more exact ... we have ****** the system.

 

[Sky]

You have to pay up for good players, GWS picked him up for p 12 we get him p 18 with 2 years experience. Should be happy with that..

Yeah but this post isn’t the information I’m after. I understand GWS midfield bats deep and most of them are well overpaid so people gotta go. I look on AFL Tables and the guy hasn’t had many 20+ touch games from his 30 games.

I guess if you look at pick 18 historically and factor in Bruhn should play 100+ games for us then the point is void? Is this why everyone is over the moon?

 

[Turbocat]

Maybe he was the fall Guy. (like that?).

Too good for me...

 

[Sire of Claude]

I'm assuming it's Clark's leadership qualities that makes him the popular choice here, as his stats etc are very similar to several others who are prominent in draft discussions. It would seem he's a safe 200 game bet, though personally I'm attracted to the speedier (?) McKenzie or the left-footer Phillipou for a point of difference. Is it the case that Stephens, Bruhn and young Clark are very similar - I ask because though it's my impression i don't really know.

 

[BlakeyNoFlakey]

Completely understand main Trade Thread melting over Cats.
Everyone was envious of Cats extended period of success.
Recently due to acquiring mature stars to top an aging list.
Desperately waiting for the Cats to fall due to age gap.
GF win shows Kittens have stepped up to help fill the gap
GFC ethos sacrifice salary for success has attracted talent.
Smart player management means room in cap available.
Potential 4 R1 draft picks + McKenna fixed this age gap
Cats will now avoid the fall and continue to be competitive.
The Cap and Trade system was designed to cycle success.
Cats have beaten the system.

If Geelong had lost the 2022 GF, these same people who are currently melting about our success would have been bagging the crap out of the Cats for pretty much all those same reasons. So, F* them.

 

[Mr Meow]

I don’t want to s**t on a 20 year old who’d be excited to be coming home on his welcome to Geelong thread because I believe I’m better than that.

Can someone tell me why I should be excited? I feel like GWS won the trade so far

Pick 12 with 2 years in the system/30 games trumps pick 18 with none - for where we are at and what we want to achieve in the next couple of years. I haven't seen too much of Bruhn but he's got some tricks. He's been played out of position a fair bit but when played as a midfielder Lana showed Bruhn is still tracking nicely. And that a top 12 having already played that many games in first 2 years is a better predictor for long careers than a straight pick 18. Competition for mid spots and capacity to rotate heavily will be important for the year ahead. We need a strong squad of 30 next year and Bruhn adds to that.

 

[Turbocat]

As I have mentioned a few times in the past... It's likely to all come together in the "non obvious" way.

Anyway, fingers crossed we can rob the Pies of Henry and hold our F1 next year.

I really can't see us wanting to part with it.

In saying that... I got no clue on how high Mac/Wells truly regard Henry.

As per usual... Time will tell.

Pretty sure I heard or read that there wer going to use one of the Cameron picks on him so ...I think they rate him