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Review Good, Bad and Ugly vs Collingwood
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to paraphrase the Rutles, today we found ourselves far from home and far from talented.
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They finished off the year well last year, it's on them.
- Jul 22, 2016
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General summary of points, not good - bad - ugly:
Not a lot of good stuff unfortunately, could be a long year ahead.
I'm hoping Tex & Laird back soon can at least offer a bit, in particular Tex with forward structure and ensuring no more Himmelberg.
- Schoenberg going backwards in a horrendous way sums up the start to this year. Was one of our shining lights last year so not sure whats happened?
- Murray a liability with the ball quite often, reminding me of Hartigan a little too much.
- Pedlar gets to play, dont think he got a single minute in the midfield. If we are going to lose badly like today at least expose him to a spot he's intended to play for the long term so there's some level of benefit from it.
- Cook looked pretty decent.
- Rachele looks quality even in a bad performance.
- Umpires were awful, I do my best to not include them but hard when they stifle the few bits of momentum we got by gifting goals to the opponent.
- Keays was solid & works hard.
- Himmerlberg has been given enough chances now, time to move on from him unless we cant play Tilthorpe for injury reasons.
- Gollant not really sure what to make of his match
- Smith & Dawson probably our 2 best today.
- Fogarty meh, too many bad free kicks given away, poor performance.
Not a lot of good stuff unfortunately, could be a long year ahead.
I'm hoping Tex & Laird back soon can at least offer a bit, in particular Tex with forward structure and ensuring no more Himmelberg.
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- Jul 22, 2016
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Hard on McHenry, wasn't good today by any means but he's been steadily improving. Jones a very mediocre start to year but he was at least looking ok last year.
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TheBrownDog
Jones just irks me. He is someone who was an elite junior mid having been named on the ball with Sam Walsh in the 2018 U18 AA team, so it was clear he had ability. Since playing AFL, he just completely lacks confidence and composure. He struggles to keep his feet, he rushes his kicks and he looked so clueless in the midfield, the club repositioned him to HB which is the easiest position to play on the ground. Despite some ok performances there last season, he has gone backwards again to start this season.
He's getting closer and closer to being a flop, and it seems to be between the ears rather than lack of talent.
- May 5, 2019
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We could’ve used picks in the 60’s or 70’s and got the same sort of players
The Good
The Bad
The Ugly
- Keys excepted, this forward line looks like it's set. Gollant very much has it. McHenry can do a role. Rowe's fine. Pedlar, especially with a tank, is fine. Rachele's a beaut
- Q4 in the middle for Rachele and he looked (for a year one player) a treat. Hopefully the above dudes nail it so he can spend more time there. Him and Pedlar going 50/50 each would be a real bonus
- Dawson is a ripper. Nice having blokes who can kick
- Hinge looks like he'll do a role for awhile. Good get for free.
- Butts keeps developing, a few nice moments
- Cook will be a real point of difference for us
The Bad
- Everything else
- Himmelberg is awful. Maybe needs a last chance saloon in defence?
- You can't call TT back up after one non game on the pine, which makes it even worse
- Fogarty can be such a liability. Limited to begin with, but that's fine. When it's not working, no pressure, immediate turnovers. Not bringing it to ground. Yuck
- Just a general lack of composure from nearly everyone
- ROB is not good. Loses the tap every week, triple grabbing and fumbling. What's he offering?
The Ugly
- The midfield group is so outdated. Nearly all are slow, average ball users, undersized and lack composure and just win cheap, harmless ball.
- The kids we've drafted to be in our midfield fit the above mold. Hardworking limited battlers. Berry, Soligo, Jones, Hately all in the same mold.
- Who the **** is in charge of our list management strategy? Who saw the way the game was going and decided for years to invest in these outdated battlers who play one position. Could have had Zac Bailey instead of Fog, Butters or Caldwell instead of Jones, Warner instead of Worrell, Serong or Young instead of Fish, Powell instead of Pedlar (I like Pedlar, but Powell would have been unreal)
- Sloane probably needs to retire to the forward line
- We're really no better with Crouch in there either, are we? Zero hurt factor or defensive intent
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the lack of skills on show is frightening. dawson and rachele stand out like sore thumbs
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Improving as what? A pressure forward? What a waste of a good pick…
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People say that a lot, but has he really though?
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I think so, has played some decent matches. Works hard, does some dumb stuff at times but I'd persist. There's other players I'd be blaming long before him.
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Good:
Dawson, Hinge, Doedee, Keays, Cook.
Rachele in the middle in the last looked great.
Occasional good patches from Smith, Crouch, Butts, Gollant, Sholl.
Bad:
Mostly everything else.
Umpiring. Absolutely expected the square up from last week but yikes.
Ugly:
Himmelberg. Enough said.
Our ability to develop players has stopped. The next 5 years are going to be very painful I think.
Dawson, Hinge, Doedee, Keays, Cook.
Rachele in the middle in the last looked great.
Occasional good patches from Smith, Crouch, Butts, Gollant, Sholl.
Bad:
Mostly everything else.
Umpiring. Absolutely expected the square up from last week but yikes.
Ugly:
Himmelberg. Enough said.
Our ability to develop players has stopped. The next 5 years are going to be very painful I think.
Development is looking a worry
Agree 100% yet leaders and decision makers and even supporteres god help us, don't The only positive is the state of the game (ridiculous rules that most of you accept as people do our system of govt) is worse than AFC. How I miss the beautiful and tough free flowing game of 1870-2006
Strong post to avatar correlation.
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I liked Cook’s game. Amazed he only had 15 touches, was one of our few clean ball users.
We'd almost be doing Thilthorpe a disservice playing him in this environment. He'll get the best defender, have one or two other key forwards in there clogging space, blocking leading areas, playing hero ball and taking their opponents straight to his space and offering no value. He'd have two on him with another defender zoning off.
Meanwhile, the mids would bomb it on his head, he'd get clobbered in packs and never be able to use his skills to lead to advantage. We're just not capable. The midfield have zero ability to move the ball forward dynamically.
How many times did C'wood get the ball through the corridor at pace today and allow themselves a targeted entrance inside 50? With forwards having space. We hold the ball up so badly and look backwards each time we get the ball in the middle that this simply isn't a reality. Only a Naughton type could survive in that forward line. Embarrassing.
Meanwhile, the mids would bomb it on his head, he'd get clobbered in packs and never be able to use his skills to lead to advantage. We're just not capable. The midfield have zero ability to move the ball forward dynamically.
How many times did C'wood get the ball through the corridor at pace today and allow themselves a targeted entrance inside 50? With forwards having space. We hold the ball up so badly and look backwards each time we get the ball in the middle that this simply isn't a reality. Only a Naughton type could survive in that forward line. Embarrassing.
- Mar 4, 2017
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Things I got from this game:
1. Adelaide has the worst midfield in the AFL by a country mile. 3 plus years to fix that. Spoon this year.
2. Fog is nothing more than a massive MAN CHILD
3. H Berg is the weakest forward to ever play for the Crows....and we already have Man child Fog !!!!
4. Nathan Buckley on commentary? Top bad if your not a Collingwood supporter watching that....typical Vic bias.
5. Umpires. Just imagine the outcry if a bunch of South Australian umpires officiated a Crows game and gave that many one sided frees...that lead to 7-8 goals.
The VFL is a complete and disgusting JOKE !!!!....Victorian umpires officiating a SA v Vic game with COMPLETE bias....and NOTHING to see here.
As I say....if the shoe was on the other foot ?????
1. Adelaide has the worst midfield in the AFL by a country mile. 3 plus years to fix that. Spoon this year.
2. Fog is nothing more than a massive MAN CHILD
3. H Berg is the weakest forward to ever play for the Crows....and we already have Man child Fog !!!!
4. Nathan Buckley on commentary? Top bad if your not a Collingwood supporter watching that....typical Vic bias.
5. Umpires. Just imagine the outcry if a bunch of South Australian umpires officiated a Crows game and gave that many one sided frees...that lead to 7-8 goals.
The VFL is a complete and disgusting JOKE !!!!....Victorian umpires officiating a SA v Vic game with COMPLETE bias....and NOTHING to see here.
As I say....if the shoe was on the other foot ?????
- May 14, 2017
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