Review Good vs Melbourne

[CrowBloke]

I don’t think he needs to say anything it’s pretty clear on video it was deflected.

Yep.
I've been arguing that (it was deflected) since I saw the vid on Saturday night.
My guess is players are told not to comment on their involvement in contentious Umpires' calls.

 

[DJ75]

Interesting to watch the last few minutes again with the 2021 interpretation of "deliberate".

What a bizarre watch. It's almost like an entirely different game. The mud. The lack of crowd. The holding the ball in the packs. The deliberate out of bounds interpretation. Bizarre. The not paying Hawthorn a free directly in front of goal in the last 30 seconds.

 

[brucetiki]

What a bizarre watch. It's almost like an entirely different game. The mud. The lack of crowd. The holding the ball in the packs. The deliberate out of bounds interpretation. Bizarre. The not paying Hawthorn a free directly in front of goal in the last 30 seconds.

Football in suburbia

Though we've gone full circle with the crowds of late - especially in Victoria where all Melbourne based clubs are trying to outdo North Melbourne for 'attendance'

 

[SugarShane]

Yeah it's always weird watching old footage of games against the so called Tiger Army at the G and there'd be like 20 thousand there. I always think of that Modra goal of the year where he soccered it towards the boundary then snapped it from the pocket. Bugger all people in the stands. Even Port would laugh.

 

[skam85]

Gary Lyon (and we know what morals he has) commentating a Melbourne game. Says it all really.

Roo was also commentating....

 

[DJ75]

Football in suburbia

Though we've gone full circle with the crowds of late - especially in Victoria where all Melbourne based clubs are trying to outdo North Melbourne for 'attendance'

I genuinely think there is a bit of VFL fatigue (even in Victoria).
The way the competition is run is more like the WWE than an actual fair competition.

 

[arrowman]

Adelaide v Melbourne
10 Clayton Oliver (MELB)
7 Ben Keays (ADEL)
7 Paul Seedsman (ADEL)
2 Jake Lever (MELB)
2 Taylor Walker (ADEL)
1 Christian Petracca (MELB)
1 Ed Langdon (MELB)

I'd probably have Trac and Lever swapped but otherwise hard to argue.

If I was Nicks, I would have given 1 vote to Murray for the trollz.

 

[WeedsMullet84]

Roo was also commentating....

Lyon said something to the effect of 'How on earth was that not holding the ball'..

To which Roo replied 'It's been happening all game, boys!'

 

[arrowman]

But for 165 years, a player being closely hounded, heading towards the pocket, has always had to handball the ball in front of him. What else is he supposed to do??

I've never been a fan of "what else is he supposed to do?" (KG used to say that all the time) - if the oppo can corral you / cut off your options, then good for them. If you're clever / skilled enough to at least try to move the ball up the line, then great, but the boundary line is not a get out of jail card "what else could he do?".

- That said, I think sometimes players are unreasonably penalised for kicking up the line to space because "what else are they supposed to do", it's a legitimate option.

Yep, this --- and he ain't sayin (wisely, lest he infuriate his own fans and contradict his Coach and the AFL). However, if he didn't touch/deflect it, I reckon he'd have said so by now.

I don't think there should be any expectation on the player to comment, either way. Of course we'd all love Spargo to come out and say "yeah, I touched it / deflected it" but we can't expect that (and neither can the other side expect him to say the opposite). Players just - rightly - zip their lips in situations like this.

Unless their initials are JJ

 

[Amacca 23]

U jelly bro?

But hey lets forget about scholls touched goal or keays head high tackle in our forward line ,guess what its say adelaide won so get over it that 1 decision cost you nothing the fact you were up 16 points with 6 minutes to go and lost says alot more

 

[Amacca 23]

So the commentators say it was deliberate, the wider football public acknowledge it was deliberate, the afl's official review say it was deliberate yet it's only the Adelaide fans that are bringing out the hot spot technology to claim Spargo touched it. Lol. Face it, the win has an asterisk next to it.

The media can't even talk about the game without mentioning that decision. lol. As much as you think I'm the one who is salty, it's pretty clear that its you lot that are salty after the official review said that the decision was wrong. And not just a little bit wrong, severely wrong to the point of cheating.The commentators literally laughed when it happened at the time.

So the commentators say it was deliberate, the wider football public acknowledge it was deliberate, the afl's official review say it was deliberate yet it's only the Adelaide fans that are bringing out the hot spot technology to claim Spargo touched it. Lol. Face it, the win has an asterisk next to it.

The media can't even talk about the game without mentioning that decision. lol. As much as you think I'm the one who is salty, it's pretty clear that its you lot that are salty after the official review said that the decision was wrong. And not just a little bit wrong, severely wrong to the point of cheating.The commentators literally laughed when it happened at the time.

jelly bro?

But hey lets forget about scholls touched goal or keays head high tackle in our forward line ,guess what its say adelaide won so get over it that 1 decision cost you nothing the fact you were up 16 points with 6 minutes to go and lost says alot more

 

[arrowman]

Just on the Keays / Petty htb non decisions... It's been a while and I haven't looked at the replays, but I know everyone here is hanging out for my opinion and as I recall it....

- Keays was tackled immediately, he did not have prior, his arms were (almost) free and he made an immediate attempt to handball. All of this counts in his favour, plus the fact that he did in fact execute a sort-of handball (looked more like the Crows player - Rowe? grabbed the ball as it bobbled around). No prior, immediate attempt to dispose legally, and even if the disposal was marginal for legality you could argue "knocked free". Very harsh, if not outright incorrect, to call htb in that situation.

(Watching it in real time, I winced - but the replay put me at ease )

- Petty, on the other hand - I don't know if he had "prior", but he was swung around 180-270 degrees, his hands were completely free, he chose to not release the ball until he could direct it to a teammate (and in the end, I don't think he did direct it towards a teammate, I think he just realised he was holding it too long).

The difference between the two is pretty clear cut, to me.

 

[marvin]

Yeah it's always weird watching old footage of games against the so called Tiger Army at the G and there'd be like 20 thousand there. I always think of that Modra goal of the year where he soccered it towards the boundary then snapped it from the pocket. Bugger all people in the stands. Even Port would laugh.

That was in 1995, I'm pretty sure. The crowd that night was 38791 - not too bad. Then again, Richmond were good in 1995.



They had truly small crowds against us in 1992 (10291) (admittedly a meaningless end of season match), and in Round 1, 1993 (18473). That last crowd was miserably small given a new season and a new coach.

 

[marvin]

If I was Nicks, I would have given 1 vote to Murray for the trollz.

Or one to Spargo.....

 

[StickerMan]

What a bizarre watch. It's almost like an entirely different game. The mud. The lack of crowd. The holding the ball in the packs. The deliberate out of bounds interpretation. Bizarre. The not paying Hawthorn a free directly in front of goal in the last 30 seconds.

Loved Jars blowing kisses to the crowd at the end!

 

[Slippery Pete]

What a bizarre watch. It's almost like an entirely different game. The mud. The lack of crowd. The holding the ball in the packs. The deliberate out of bounds interpretation. Bizarre. The not paying Hawthorn a free directly in front of goal in the last 30 seconds.

They also didn’t stop the clock for a ball-up back then, which helps a lot if you’re in front.

 

[DJ75]

That was in 1995, I'm pretty sure. The crowd that night was 38791 - not too bad. Then again, Richmond were good in 1995.



They had truly small crowds against us in 1992 (10291) (admittedly a meaningless end of season match), and in Round 1, 1993 (18473). That last crowd was miserably small given a new season and a new coach.

God that's good to watch. Such an incredible player.

 

[SugarShane]

God that's good to watch. Such an incredible player.

It's an overused cliche but the guy was a freak. That highlights reel would be amazing if it was just a universal AFL reel but it's all one dude.

He had the goal sense of Eddie Betts and the hops of Jeremy Howe. Of all the other gun full forwards of the era none could sit on heads like he could. He really was something special.

 

[Moonwatcher]

Loved Jars blowing kisses to the crowd at the end!

I may have taken to doing this during primary school games and training. Big Andrew Jarman fan.

 

[Moonwatcher]

overused cliche

A repeated tautology.

 

[Moonwatcher]

Read the first few pages, can’t be bothered with the rest so this might have been done already but in answer to your question Drugs Are Bad Mackay? - I looked into this on Monday.

Our 4th 1 point win. Three of them we kicked a winning goal in the last minute.

Hawthorn at Waverley 1992 - Darel Hart

Fitzroy at Footy Park 1993 - Liptak kicked a goal from 50 to level the scores and Pittman broke the tie by hitting the post with a snap from the boundary line. (I had no memory of this - God bless you JeffAlbertson2.

Then a 20 year break.

North Melbourne at Etihad 2013 - Petrenko.

Melbourne at AO 2021 - Tex.

We always struggled to get over Fitzroy when they were the competition punching bag.

 

[Moonwatcher]

Read the first few pages, can’t be bothered with the rest so this might have been done already but in answer to your question Drugs Are Bad Mackay? - I looked into this on Monday.

Our 4th 1 point win. Three of them we kicked a winning goal in the last minute.

Hawthorn at Waverley 1992 - Darel Hart

Fitzroy at Footy Park 1993 - Liptak kicked a goal from 50 to level the scores and Pittman broke the tie by hitting the post with a snap from the boundary line. (I had no memory of this - God bless you JeffAlbertson2.

Then a 20 year break.

North Melbourne at Etihad 2013 - Petrenko.

Melbourne at AO 2021 - Tex.

Found this from the Fitzroy game.

 

[Moonwatcher]

My first Crows game - won tickets thru 5AA- when Pittman hit the post everyone in the crowd just started saying "siren siren siren" but as a dumb 8 yr old who was just loving every second of being there I couldn't work out why anyone would want the game to end!

I was at this game but don't remember it.

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

When was the Fitzroy game where the umpire did a ball up near the boundary line and only succeeded in throwing it over the boundary?

 

[Moonwatcher]

When was the Fitzroy game where the umpire did a ball up near the boundary line and only succeeded in throwing it over the boundary?

Insufficient intent.