Anyone seen Team America?
I'd rather be a dick than a pussy or arseh*le.
So your swipe at Bailey is now irrelevent?
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Harvey cracks the sads over Warnock
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Anyone seen Team America?
I'd rather be a dick than a pussy or arseh*le.
So your swipe at Bailey is now irrelevent?
Once he says ' I want to go to Melbourne ' the bids will sure start coming inLet the bidding war begin
FFS guys this is a storm in a teacup.
If I was in Harvey's shoes I'd be pretty pissed as well, but in reality we're doing nothing wrong. Ethically yes it is probably wrong but we're not breaking any laws.
Posters from both teams here need to lie down and chill for a bit. Freo fans, we haven't actually done anything wrong. My own comrades, there is no need to attack Harvey when he just made an off the cuff remark. It's not like he came out on his own accord and constantly attacked us.
If I was in Harvey's shoes I'd be pretty pissed as well, but in reality we're doing nothing wrong. Ethically yes it is probably wrong but we're not breaking any laws.
Posters from both teams here need to lie down and chill for a bit. Freo fans, we haven't actually done anything wrong. My own comrades, there is no need to attack Harvey when he just made an off the cuff remark. It's not like he came out on his own accord and constantly attacked us.
I won't be angry with Warnock if he decides to go home, and I certainly don't have an issue with the Demons meeting with him since it appears to be within the rules. Thr Melbourne Footy Club should do whatever it can to improve its list.
Where this thread has stemmed from is a few Melbourne supporters bizzarely taking umbrage with a comment Mark Harvey made yesterday.
Hahahahahahahahahahahaha, that's comedy gold!!
Woo Hoo!! Finally, some sense.
deeswant13
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It won't come down to a bidding war at all, the player has to agree to be traded so if he says he wants to come to Melbourne we can just offer a 4th round pick and say take it or leave it. If you leave it we'll take him in the PSD.
Warnock was surprised but very impressed with Melbourne and the presentation.
Warnock was surprised but very impressed with Melbourne and the presentation.
Yep, if Warnock only wants to play for Melbourne the only thing Richmond's interest will achieve is an increase in the $$$$$ you have to pay him. The more clubs that throw their hat in the ring the better it is for Robbie Warnock. You could end up paying him close to $1.2M over three years.
Fact of the matter is that football clubs nowadays are being run like businesses. I know Barassi has stated that they should never be regarded as businesses, but they are being treated as such - it's indicative of the times and indeed the way football is going. In the business world this happens all the time and if Harvey can't handle such professionalism then he needs to wake up and move with the times.
In a way I guess Melbourne saw this as an opportunity to trial such an approach with an eye to the future, perhaps there were some faults with their presentation to Judd. Fair to say they may have gone over the top with regard to a player of Warnock's ability but I'd prefer they try it out now and fail than try it out with a huge potential signing and really stuff it up.
In a way I guess Melbourne saw this as an opportunity to trial such an approach with an eye to the future, perhaps there were some faults with their presentation to Judd. Fair to say they may have gone over the top with regard to a player of Warnock's ability but I'd prefer they try it out now and fail than try it out with a huge potential signing and really stuff it up.
guys, seriously its not rugby. Your lucky the AFL has not decided to do anything about it.
Moo
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My God it is going to be a long off season ....we are already debating dictionary definitions of terms and it is not even round 22.
Allow me to summarise
- Was it illegal .....no
- Was it cheeky ...yes
- Would I complain if Freo did it .....no but I would understand some minor crappiness from the other club
We will send Robbie to Essendon and on trade Laycock to you - Watt do we get? I don't know rich 1, sorry I mean Pick 1 .....everyones a winner ...rucks all around and we will take that pick I am sure you don't need
Send us Marcus Camby Hammy and it is a deal.
As a general rule I like Dees fans (7th Hamster aside)....lets just keep it on good terms.
Allow me to summarise
- Was it illegal .....no
- Was it cheeky ...yes
- Would I complain if Freo did it .....no but I would understand some minor crappiness from the other club
We will send Robbie to Essendon and on trade Laycock to you - Watt do we get? I don't know rich 1, sorry I mean Pick 1 .....everyones a winner ...rucks all around and we will take that pick I am sure you don't need
Take your pick of White or Yze. All Australians for an unproven kid. Bargain!
Send us Marcus Camby Hammy and it is a deal.
As a general rule I like Dees fans (7th Hamster aside)....lets just keep it on good terms.
I'm sure Warnock would see his career progressing as a number #1 ruckman as opposed to Sandilands understudy. We lost Jolly this way. That comment about unproven potential which im not bothered to go back and quote may explain your terrible recruiting of has been's.
Harvey does not interview well at all, for this reason it doesn't matter what he says. Hope he makes more sense to his players.
Harvey does not interview well at all, for this reason it doesn't matter what he says. Hope he makes more sense to his players.
Asgardian
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Mark Harvey has a bit of history about this type of situation.
He went crying to the media when Port expressed some interest in Josh Carr.
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Harvey isnt winning many fans by whinging, he already isnt that well liked - and will be under pressure in the next yr to keep his job..
I actually liked Freo when Chris Con was there, but he more than had his chance, I wonder if Freo regret appointing Harvey though, the blokes a tool..
I actually liked Freo when Chris Con was there, but he more than had his chance, I wonder if Freo regret appointing Harvey though, the blokes a tool..
dee-molishon
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Im sure if jace bode, issac weetra, john messen.........come to think of it about half the playing list talked to other clubs and leave, i and many others wouldnt (any excuse to use it) "give a rats toss bag".
The fact remains is melbourne arent doing anything outside the rules. Warnock isnt unhappy at freo but wants to return home, Melbourne need a ruckman, we have his brother on the list, if he wants to return home and come to our club you will take what your given as we have the first pick in the pre-season draft.
So heres the deal you will take: 1)Jeff White - cause its just what u need another person over the hill. 2)Pick 85 in the national draft. 3) Issac Weetra - he can replace farmers out put from this year for you next year for less cash!!!
Either that or we take him for free in the psd. Your choice.
Mark Harvey, thank *** we didnt appoint that nimrod.
His press conferences when asked the hard questions, lmao. Gets that glazed over look on his face, you can see the mind ticking over trying to come up with something, anything!!! Cant think of anything so just makes up things and starts to mumble about anything be it about the subject or not.
Reminds me of zoolander when matilda asks derek "in some aboriginal tribes they believe when you get your photo taken it takes away a piece of you soul how do feel about that getting your photo taken the all time?" and he replies "well id like to answer your question with a question of my own, how many abadiginals do you see modelling??"
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Who was directly critical of Harvey's win/loss percentage? I was critical of him as a coach, but I was refering to the fact that of the 4 new coaches he was expected to do the best & is currently sitting 3rd of those 4 and that its widely believed that of those 4 coaches he is doing the poorest job in his first year.
Wrong. AFLPA said it was perfectly fine, so the AFL had zero they could do about it.
I don't think Harvey's stance here is too ridiculous, but he does have a history for stupidity in the media so anything he says is jumped on now. Really, all the man wants is to retain one of his brightest prospects, and he has every right to comment on a topic that is relevant to his club. I think we forget that coaches are people too, they aren't just some figurehead told what to say at all times. They are allowed to have opinions on certain issues, and his is a pretty valid one. When you stop and think about it, his reaction was a very natural one.
Not sure its quite as widely believed as you make out.
He lost his 2 best midfielders for the whole season (Hasleby and Headland). The development in the kids has been exceptional. Its quite a credit to him that despite retirements and injuries we have been competitive for the majority of the year.
The development in the young players was always missing under Connolly. We get young guys in, but they'd never come on. Some would go backwards. Harvey has got all the young kids moving in the right direction and playing with confidence.
Some of the midtier players who were always very average have started to step up in the absence of the senior guys.
Retirements of Bell, M.Carr, H.Black, McManus and no Hasleby or Headland for the whole year has taken its toll on a young midfield.
I think despite the win/loss ratio he's done a great job. Can't wait to see what he can do with a whole list to choose from next year.
Well put mate
Harvey said nothing that was out of line.
I don`t have a problem with Melbournes approach, if they get him, good luck to them, and we`ll get nothing in return...sh*t happens!
Well put mate
Harvey said nothing that was out of line.
I don`t have a problem with Melbournes approach, if they get him, good luck to them, and we`ll get nothing in return...sh*t happens!
For some reason, I don't think Fremantle will have the same attitude towards the Warnock situation. They won't just lie down and say shit happens, nor should they. They have a club and a business to run, and letting go of their assets for nothing is hardly the scenario they desire. They will do all in their power to broker a deal with any number of clubs, but it does come down to Warnock in the end, and hopefully that is where Melbourne will have the advantage.
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Try this thread, excluding Freo posters almost everyone puts Harvey last.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=474564&highlight=first+year+coaches
And if you don't want just BF opinions, Mike Sheahan wrote the following on the weekend.
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,24186659-19742,00.html
In the paper they put school like grades next to the coaches, Ratten & Knights got B+, Bailey C and Harvey D or D+, clearly last.
Oh no, you lost a couple of players. That excuse isn't really going to cut it when Essendon has the worst injury list in the league and melbourne's is worse then Freo, by round 10 we'd lost the 2 guys who've lead our goal kicking since 2001, we also lost our best defender and our best midfielder. So injuries are no excuse
So i'd say it's pretty widely believed that Harvey is the worst performed first year coach
Of course no-one at the club or the supporters want to lose him but IF he wants to go to Melb via the PSD then that`s up to him...and we can`t do anything about it really.
Of course it would be preferable if he stays or chooses to go to another club that aren`t on the bottom of the ladder
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