Review Dees v the Aints: the Good, Bad & Fugly

[Bluelegs]

Its getting to the stage now where I just expect him to look average week to week, no point even getting worked up over. Might start calling him Dulliver though.

He looks like all the things that made him special have been coached out of him, I actually think he'd benefit from change in scenery or a new coach but it will never happen.

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

He looks like all the things that made him special have been coached out of him, I actually think he'd benefit from change in scenery or a new coach but it will never happen.

I think hes just let his fitness levels drop off each year since the flag (or big contract) and tries getting by on talent, go compare his body shape back then to the past couple of years.

 

[Bluelegs]

Wasn’t even a comfortable victory, lets be honest.

Outside of North the Saints are the worst team in the league and they won two quarters.

And you just know those campaigners are out drunk on barhwater somewhere celebrating too.

I said during the game the scoreboard flattered us a bit. Saints had some chances to get back into the game from pretty close range that they squandered. We won from a good first quarter and a ten minute hot patch in the third, also a lot of our goals came from center clearances, which are great but they're bonuses most weeks.

We deserved the win but it wasn't anything to write home about.

 

[Bluelegs]

I think hes just let his fitness levels drop off each year since the flag (or big contract) and tries getting by on talent, go compare him body shape back then to the past couple of years.

Yeah well we all know why his fitness fell apart. By all reports he hasn't set a foot wrong since coming back into the side but I would have expected more by now. If it was just a matter of fitness I'd just drop him for a month to let him get that base up.

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

Yeah well we all know why his fitness fell apart. By all reports he hasn't set a foot wrong since coming back into the side but I would have expected more by now. If it was just a matter of fitness I'd just drop him for a month to let him get that base up.

Im sure he can still run out games to an AFL standard, just saying I doubt he does all the things he used to with extra sessions, strict diet etc. He was so much leaner in 2021, had way more burst to his game.

 

[schmuttt]

Its getting to the stage now where I just expect him to look average week to week, no point even getting worked up over. Might start calling him Dulliver though.

I know we won't get much for him now but if he doesn't start looking like the old Oliver next year we need to move the contract ASAP

 

[schmuttt]

I said during the game the scoreboard flattered us a bit. Saints had some chances to get back into the game from pretty close range that they squandered. We won from a good first quarter and a ten minute hot patch in the third, also a lot of our goals came from center clearances, which are great but they're bonuses most weeks.

We deserved the win but it wasn't anything to write home about.

Pretty much, and we all expect a massive shitfest against Freo this week to revert to the mean.

If we actually attack the game against Freo and are willing to maybe concede a couple stoppage goals (They're excellent at stoppage) I will actually give credit.

 

[stEdy]

Although Oliver's impact is definitely down overall, (I'd say it's mostly fitness related, as others has said he's clearly carrying too much weight) I thought his hands were very good yesterday and we actually set up well around him to utilise his strengths.

He shoveled out a lot of good handballs to people on the move. Nibs and Kozzy in the midfield mix is helping.

 

[Headless]

Harvest Snaps Max did to the field what human Max did to Marshall.

Did Max win? I didn't see it in the end.

 

[Bluelegs]

Did Max win? I didn't see it in the end.

I'm starting to think the entire event is the most recent example of the Mandela Effect in action.

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

Did Max win? I didn't see it in the end.

You had one job , should have gone in your pants Les instead of pissing off to the dunny. It was that important.

 

[Macka1203]

Oliver had 24 disposals with only one turnover, 5 clearances, 5 tackles, 5 score involvements, while sitting on the pine for 7-10 minutes every quarter.

I didn’t think he was that bad

 

[Headless]

I'm starting to think the entire event is the most recent example of the Mandela Effect in action.

You had one job , should have gone in your pants Les instead of pissing off to the dunny. It was that important.

One of you was more understanding, here.

 

[Bluelegs]

Oliver had 24 disposals with only one turnover, 5 clearances, 5 tackles, 5 score involvements, while sitting on the pine for 7-10 minutes every quarter.

I didn’t think he was that bad

Don't think anyone said he was bad? The criticism is that he's fine but he's also one of if not our highest paid player and is clearly not playing his best footy or having the impact on games he should.

 

[schmuttt]

Oliver had 24 disposals with only one turnover, 5 clearances, 5 tackles, 5 score involvements, while sitting on the pine for 7-10 minutes every quarter.

I didn’t think he was that bad

Clarry has stuffed the stat sheet since his debut, I don't think it is a good indicator.

Like A11 has said he looks like the 3rd Crouch brother rather than the best inside mid in the game 2018-2022.

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

Oliver had 24 disposals with only one turnover, 5 clearances, 5 tackles, 5 score involvements, while sitting on the pine for 7-10 minutes every quarter.

I didn’t think he was that bad

He wasn't bad, he was meh, nowhere near a 1m player we are paying him to be.

 

[schmuttt]

Don't think anyone said he was bad? The criticism is that he's fine but he's also one of if not our highest paid player and is clearly not playing his best footy or having the impact on games he should.

Yeah like if we are willing to pay a guy around 1m a year for 6 more years after this season for his current output we are kidding ourselves.

 

[Bluelegs]

Yeah like if we are willing to pay a guy around 1m a year for 6 more years after this season for his current output we are kidding ourselves.

ANB would be on half what Oliver is and averaging a similar impact on games.

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

One of you was more understanding, here.

If it was the demon dash you would have stayed and watched it.

 

[Bluelegs]

Kozzy would have had half the ball Oliver did and did so much more damage.

 

[Macka1203]

Yeah like if we are willing to pay a guy around 1m a year for 6 more years after this season for his current output we are kidding ourselves.

Good point re the money, however with the salary cap constantly increasing we will see blokes like reid earning double that in a few years. One average season shouldn’t be the point to jump off for a bloke with all his accolades

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

ANB would be on half what Oliver is and averaging a similar impact on games.

Id argue he has more influence given the role he plays.

 

[Bluelegs]

If it was the demon dash you would have stayed and watched it.

This incident has really shaken my faith in Headless' ATG credentials.

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

Good point re the money, however with the salary cap constantly increasing we will see blokes like reid earning double that in a few years. One average season shouldn’t be the point to jump off for a bloke with all his accolades

How so? Youre paying guys for what they can do moving forward, not what they have done in the past. Wont win flags if you hand out contracts on past performance.

 

[Headless]

This incident has really shaken my faith in Headless' ATG credentials.

It's not raining here right now.