Analysis Hawks 2022 Hypothetical trades (read the pinned post)

[Strapping Young Lad]

Firstly, the "No Kane Cornes

Kane Cornes

Age

41

Ht

183cm

Wt

78kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

23.5

5star

K

12.5

5star

HB

11.0

5star

M

5.2

5star

T

3.3

5star

CL

2.6

4star

No current season stats available

D

13.0

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

5.4

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

1.2

3star

" Rule is back

 

[Jazzfan]

Gee if Jackson stays, we might be the only option for Grundy (with pies paying a chunk)...

 

[TylerDurden]

Gee if Jackson stays, we might be the only option for Grundy (with pies paying a chunk)...

Spot on. And if JDG stays/ they want Tom Mitchell.

 

[Mrzohs]

Spot on. And if JDG stays/ they want Tom Mitchell.

Ball park figure what would Tom Mitchell current salary be.. 600's? No more than 7s?
If Grundy is on a million that's a fair gap in between.. How much are the Pies chipping in?

 

[CaptainWorpedo]

Henry and Grundy to the Hawks for Mitchell to the pies. Hawks cover grundys wage (we have cap room)

 

[Iceman!]

Duursma spoke upon arrival in Perth last night on 9 news denying any trade links following the report Port are meeting Rioli.


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Players are just about the last person that would admit it

 

[Brishawk]

He'd cost pick 6. There's no chance he's with us.
In fact Dodo would want 2 firsts.

He isn’t the kind of player you give up top draft picks for. I guess I’d consider him as a free agent but not for our first.

 

[Barralupo]

I'm confused, why would Grundy leave a side that's about to play in a semi final to us for the same wage? He's contracted and holds the power in this scenario, I would be amazed if he came to us

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

I'm confused, why would Grundy leave a side that's about to play in a semi final to us for the same wage? He's contracted and holds the power in this scenario, I would be amazed if he came to us

If Dees keep Jackson(long shot), he doesn’t really have a home, as Pies want his $$$ off the books.

 

[Adrian Dodoro]

I know Liam personally, and he’s definitely not toxic.

He’s certainly not a “yes man” but he’s a deeper thinker / worrier.

He was refreshingly open about his struggles with MH, but he is a great character.

I think the issue he had at Carlton is he’s sitting behind too many for their midfield and he’s not quick enough to play on the sharp small forwards.

I’d have him at Hawthorn in a heartbeat as I feel we can play him as our 4th/5th mid whereas he was 7th/8th at Carlton.

Hard player, good character, well worth a punt.

Love the hawks supporter expat connection!

Also there are so many examples of players who aren't supported enough by their first club in terms of human (as opposed to athlese) issues and move somewhere they know they'll be taken care of, and they improve immidietely. I don't think Carlton have a good track record with taking care of their players who aren't called Patrick Cripps, Charlie Curnow or Harry McKay. Even Weitering had a rough time for a while.

 

[Barralupo]

If Dees keep Jackson(long shot), he doesn’t really have a home, as Pies want his $$$ off the books.

Being contracted, isn't he well within his rights to say no to a move that doesn't benefit him? I'd actually like to see Grundy take a strong stance and tell them he is staying. Make the club find the $ elsewhere

 

[derp de derp]

Players are just about the last person that would admit it

Agree, found it interesting that he used the word stuck when asked about Port. Seemed like a Freudian slip.


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[butlers hawks]

Being contracted, isn't he well within his rights to say no to a move that doesn't benefit him? I'd actually like to see Grundy take a strong stance and tell them he is staying. Make the club find the $ elsewhere

yes he is entitled to, Darcy MacPherson did it last year

 

[Iceman!]

Being contracted, isn't he well within his rights to say no to a move that doesn't benefit him? I'd actually like to see Grundy take a strong stance and tell them he is staying. Make the club find the $ elsewhere

Of course he can, but would you want to stay somewhere you aren’t wanted?

 

[I got the outside word]

Of course he can, but would you want to stay somewhere you aren’t wanted?

For millions of dollars and a big **** you to everyone that didn’t want me… Yes, yes I would.

 

[Iceman!]

For millions of dollars and a big * you to everyone that didn’t want me… Yes, yes I would.

He will get the millions anywhere, I dunno about showing that up to work everyday at a place that wants you gone where you can move somewhere else.

Seems odd to do it just to spite the club

 

[Barralupo]

Of course he can, but would you want to stay somewhere you aren’t wanted?

I think it depends on what the club has advised him.

If he has been told that they will be playing others in front of him next year, then yes a move would be on the cards. Outside of that, I wouldn't consider the reason to save $ or create cap space as sufficient to drive a player out of the club. I guess it depends on how uncomfortable they would make it for him i.e Treloar

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

I must of missed something. Where is the parish talk coming from? Just a big footy hypothetical?

A bombre flog posted on the drafts board that Parish was seen meeting the Hawks.

Probably rubbish though.

 

[Bugs1977]

He'd cost pick 6. There's no chance he's with us.
In fact Dodo would want 2 firsts.

 

[Jazzfan]

 

[Ned Ryerson]

Interesting - however this would be an easy prank to pull - I have two phones sitting on my desk right now and could just send them two texts giving a detailed report how I just saw Clarko meeting with Ryan Papenhuyzen about making a switch of codes and joining Norf.

 

[Coathanger]

Looking at this years stats alone. Parish is just a 25yo version of Tom.
Is that what we need?

 

[HeHateMe]

First the Essendon Mitchell rumour and now this, seems strange from both clubs but wouldn't put it past either of them on just showing interest in an attempt to find out what they can shake out.

Another option could Darcy be gettable as a FA in 2023 and we are just doing Due diligence early?

 

[HeHateMe]

Silly season has well and truly begun hasn't it....

 

[Ballsontheline]

Lot's of talk around Gresham and Parish to the Hawks, whom both will be free agents come end of 2023.

I say we wait for them and use next season as another stepping stone with this young group and we really focus on nailing this draft with pick 2 and Bruhn.
We can win another 3 to 4 games more than we did this season, if so then I feel players like Gresham and Parish would love to jump on board as the writing would be on the wall.

The whole league will see Hawthorn coming and what Sam has built in 2 years.

(And you dont have to get bent over by Dodoro)

 

[Adrian Dodoro]

Interesting - however this would be an easy prank to pull - I have two phones sitting on my desk right now and could just send them two texts giving a detailed report how I just saw Clarko meeting with Ryan Papenhuyzen about making a switch of codes and joining Norf.

"he's a likely type"