Analysis Hawks 2022 Hypothetical trades (read the pinned post)

[Strapping Young Lad]

Firstly, the "No Kane Cornes

Kane Cornes

Age

42

Ht

183cm

Wt

78kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

23.5

5star

K

12.5

5star

HB

11.0

5star

M

5.2

5star

T

3.3

5star

CL

2.6

4star

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D

13.0

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

5.4

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

1.2

3star

" Rule is back

 

[TDS7]

Lions need points for Fletcher and Ashcroft they need to keep as many points this year.

Throw in a third and a fourth for a future second then. This draft looks relatively shallow anyway.

 

[burner1]

Are hawks unlikely to play hardball if Gunston wants to go (irrespective of lions FA position)? it’s not what we do (unfortunately). They’d throw us a 3rd rounder and we’d prob take it.
(Edit - meant unlikely not likely)

 

[Brant]

Are hawks likely to play hardball if Gunston wants to go (irrespective of lions FA position)? it’s not what we do (unfortunately). They’d throw us a 3rd rounder and we’d prob take it.

Hard ball, how?

 

[Ashman23]

I'm a better footballer than him, and I haven't played football since grade 6 at primary school!

Can you play on the wing and what are your salary demands?

 

[TylerDurden]

I'd be shattered to see Gunner walk for nix.

 

[RX Hawk]

Horne-Francis is not happy at North.
North have not fallen in love with Jason.
They could use a reset and take picks 1 and 6 (plus a young key forward in Kosi) in the draft to start fresh.

Our pick 6 this year + Koschitzke for JHF
Tommy Mitchell to Carlton for their 2nd rounder this year, approx pick 26
Pick 26 + Worpel for Geelong's first rounder this year, approx pick 18
Free agent Amon
Free agent Buddy

We add Buddy, Amon, Horne-Francis, pick 18 best mid or forward, and our second rounder - maybes Lawrence son of Lawrence to the list for 2023.

Would love to have Buddy and Amon somehow. Rest could be tougher.

 

[Buckemenico]

keep gunston.

Only a top10 pick would do and no-one will offer us that.

 

[matey]

Don’t like listening to this rubbish Gunners is a Hawk legend that needs to continue guiding our kids/club …….. imagine if he gets another! At the end of the day it’s up to him but he looks happy

 

[Stratton24]

Kane Cornes saying Gunston to the Lions, doubt there's anything there but let's entertain that thought.

Lions wont grab him as Free Agent as it would kill their McStay compensation, would open the door for us to be in prime postilion to negotiate a deal for their first pick.

24+Gunston for their Future First.

Kane cleared it up. He didn’t hear Gunston to the Lions he read in Friday’s Herald Sun that their Moneyball article suggested as a hypothetical that Gunston would be a good fit for them.

 

[Ned Ryerson]

Pick 6 and T. Mitchell to Freo for Serong and Logue. Freo will need the draft capital for Jackson. Would we need to throw something else to that?

A future first at least.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Don’t like listening to this rubbish Gunners is a Hawk legend that needs to continue guiding our kids/club …….. imagine if he gets another! At the end of the day it’s up to him but he looks happy

It’s his decision whether he stays or goes, but as yet he doesn’t have a contract next year, and we’re clearly open to all possibilities regarding getting more picks.

 

[Stratton24]

It’s his decision whether he stays or goes, but as yet he doesn’t have a contract next year, and we’re clearly open to all possibilities regarding getting more picks.

He is a free agent. If we do get Amon in then we get no compo if Jack leaves.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

He is a free agent. If we do get Amon in then we get no compo if Jack leaves.

I know this. It depends where he would potentially go, as a side like Brisbane for example would rather trade then lose their compo for McStay.

 

[Stratton24]

I know this. It depends where he would potentially go, as a side like Brisbane for example would rather trade then lose their compo for McStay.

So we get a future 3rd for our future 4th = no thanks

 

[Braidz]

And you want to trade for him?

A downfall I have is reading into stats too much. Seems to be kicking goals lately and is young. Key forwards take time to mature

 

[TylerDurden]

So we get a future 3rd for our future 4th = no thanks

Agree. We're worse off if he leaves. Sign him asap.

 

[Ned Ryerson]

A downfall I have is reading into stats too much. Seems to be kicking goals lately and is young. Key forwards take time to mature

Just curious if you read stats from another source than I do? Schache’s goal kicking stats in the AFL this year are 0, 2, 0, 0, 2, 0, 1. He’s had two bags in the VFL also for the entire year - he’s not exactly setting the world on fire.

 

[TylerDurden]

Just curious if you read stats from another source than I do? Schache’s goal kicking stats in the AFL this year are 0, 2, 0, 0, 2, 0, 1. He’s had two bags in the VFL also for the entire year - he’s not exactly setting the world on fire.

2 were against us of course.

 

[Ned Ryerson]

2 were against us of course.

Ronked again.

 

[KermitJagger]

Just curious if you read stats from another source than I do? Schache’s goal kicking stats in the AFL this year are 0, 2, 0, 0, 2, 0, 1. He’s had two bags in the VFL also for the entire year - he’s not exactly setting the world on fire.

Don't reckon we should acquire Schache, but I wouldn't be surprised if we did go for him or a player like him as a short term ruck/fwd option.

 

[Ned Ryerson]

Don't reckon we should acquire Schache, but I wouldn't be surprised if we did go for him or a player like him as a short term ruck/fwd option.

The latter absolutely. Don’t see Schache filling that need though.

 

[Blackhawk42]

The latter absolutely. Don’t see Schache filling that need though.

Hayden McLean from Sydney. I wanted us to go after him last year until I saw we were into Lynch.

 

[Books]

This is the hypothetical thread, so do not shoot me. This is just a hypothetical.

We have Sicily, Blanck, Frost, DGB and now maybe Jeka as key defenders. Plus Hartigan but he might be finished. We cannot fit them all in.

Sicily is our best player. A gun, a playmaker, a matchwinner, just entering his prime. Our most valuable asset. But maybe, just maybe, we could cover for him, and gain somewhere else from a hypothetical trade.

Gold Coast have lots of picks this year. A first rounder (8), 3 2nds, 2 3rds, 2 4ths. Plus they are about to lose Rankine and gain another top ten pick. They have a heap of young talent, and would love a ready-made player.

What if Gold Coast offered us two top-ten picks for Sicily, (4 and 8}? Potentially Tsatas and Hollands / McKenzie as well as our own pick 6.

Would we consider it?

 

[Mercy Seat]

This is the hypothetical thread, so do not shoot me. This is just a hypothetical.

We have Sicily, Blanck, Frost, DGB and now maybe Jeka as key defenders. Plus Hartigan but he might be finished. We cannot fit them all in.

Sicily is our best player. A gun, a playmaker, a matchwinner, just entering his prime. Our most valuable asset. But maybe, just maybe, we could cover for him, and gain somewhere else from a hypothetical trade.

Gold Coast have lots of picks this year. A first rounder (8), 3 2nds, 2 3rds, 2 4ths. Plus they are about to lose Rankine and gain another top ten pick. They have a heap of young talent, and would love a ready-made player.

What if Gold Coast offered us two top-ten picks for Sicily, (4 and 8}? Potentially Tsatas and Hollands / McKenzie as well as our own pick 6.

Would we consider it?

Sicily literally just put pen to paper on a new contract a month or so ago after being a free agent where he could have gone anywhere. We're not going to trade him now.

 

[Hawthorn2023]

Will we break even on a t.mitchell trade?

Hawks gave up pick 14 & 52