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Although they were one Ollie Pope innings away from a whitewash. Last trip they had to India the pitches were unmercifully doctored. These are good pitches.
And India have played weakened teams
 
Although they were one Ollie Pope innings away from a whitewash. Last trip they had to India the pitches were unmercifully doctored. These are good pitches.

Agree these pitches have been good, the optimist in me hopes that will continue.

The pessimist in me says India do not rate England as a threat.
 
Stokes finally bowls this series and knocks Sharma over first ball.
Great captaincy that, waiting until the 62nd over and the game effectively over to have a bowl
 

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You mean when the series is over ?
Fair enough if he wasn't fit enough to bowl in the other tests. But if you are fit to bowl in this test there is no point in waiting so long
 
Yep, they’ve all got a bad case of FIGJAM.

I never thought I’d find a more unlikeable team than India, but this England side are the most unbearable sports team I’ve ever watched.

From a fairly neutral perspective:

As far as cricket teams go at least, that’s only because you are an Australian fan.

They’re nowhere near as unlikeable as the Waugh era Aussies. Also not as successful, clearly.

The one redeeming feature that side has that obviously this England team don’t, is that they were a far better team on the field so when people think of them they associate their fundamental unlikeability with the counterbalance that they were also extremely good.

I think if you stepped back from things with the current England side and just looked at them as a team who were say, the Dutch, or from the UAE - a team who aren’t just trained to hate - they would just come across as being a bit stupid more than anything.

A quick summary of their last two years in a few sentences would be ‘a team that was incredibly shit, completely changed its approach with a tactic no test team has ever tried before, it has been pretty successful but has led to a heavy defeat in its biggest test so far, and the players keep saying stupid things at press conferences.’
 
A quick summary of their last two years in a few sentences would be ‘a team that was incredibly s**t, completely changed its approach with a tactic no test team has ever tried before, it has been pretty successful but has led to a heavy defeat in its biggest test so far, and the players keep saying stupid things at press conferences.’

I reckon they should have batted more aggressively in this series (as I think you have argued as well). They have been pretty timid and when you look at their batter's averages they just aren't very good aside from Root.
 
The one redeeming feature that side has that obviously this England team don’t, is that they were a far better team on the field so when people think of them they associate their fundamental unlikeability with the counterbalance that they were also extremely good.
There's the kicker.

Teams who run their mouth but back it up on the field, I can accept.

Teams who continually dribble on about how good they are and carry this 'holier than thou' attitude despite putting out very average results on the field? Put that in the bin.
 
Yep, they’ve all got a bad case of FIGJAM.

I never thought I’d find a more unlikeable team than India, but this England side are the most unbearable sports team I’ve ever watched.
Yep. Drank their own bathwater and have committed to this garbage ideology of Bazball.
Glad they're losing.
 
I reckon they should have batted more aggressively in this series (as I think you have argued as well). They have been pretty timid and when you look at their batter's averages they just aren't very good aside from Root.

Your last sentence sums it up perfectly: they just don’t have many really good batsmen and they HAVE to play a different way to have a chance so good luck to them. They went back to classic timid England in the second innings of the last test and look how quickly they fell apart when they had the game at their mercy
 
There's the kicker.

Teams who run their mouth but back it up on the field, I can accept.

Teams who continually dribble on about how good they are and carry this 'holier than thou' attitude despite putting out very average results on the field? Put that in the bin.

Until now, they had backed it up. I think maybe they are battling to deal with the come down somewhat
 
From a fairly neutral perspective:

As far as cricket teams go at least, that’s only because you are an Australian fan.

They’re nowhere near as unlikeable as the Waugh era Aussies. Also not as successful, clearly.

The one redeeming feature that side has that obviously this England team don’t, is that they were a far better team on the field so when people think of them they associate their fundamental unlikeability with the counterbalance that they were also extremely good.

I think if you stepped back from things with the current England side and just looked at them as a team who were say, the Dutch, or from the UAE - a team who aren’t just trained to hate - they would just come across as being a bit stupid more than anything.

A quick summary of their last two years in a few sentences would be ‘a team that was incredibly s**t, completely changed its approach with a tactic no test team has ever tried before, it has been pretty successful but has led to a heavy defeat in its biggest test so far, and the players keep saying stupid things at press conferences.’
Most extremely successful sides will be unlikeable to neutrals. Especially if their dominance lasts a long time.

It is a fair effort to be unbearable when you are not even good.

Well, I say unbearable - but there is satisfaction in the moral victors beating their chests and then being forced fed humble pie.
 

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