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Is he aware this is the same man that offered to come and work on our forwards craft and kicking?
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Remember when Butcher was struggling with his kicking really early on, and WGT was being asked on radio why he wasn't mentoring him, but was helping Taylor Walker one on one instead?
"Because he asked me for help" was the answer. This attitude at the club has been going on for a while. There's people that would rather struggle on and do it their own way rather than* involve someone that could do it better.
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So when do you think this struggling to work with people started happening? He’s the captain of a premiership team. We obviously won it all despite a captain who struggles to work cohesively with people.
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There was s no way Dab d Al ch wants Warren on the board, then, now or in the future. David Koch only wants yes people on the board.
Koch was put in the chairman position by the AFL for a reason, and that reason is not for Por to be too successful. Eddie Mcquire (Collingwood) also has their own person as a board member, who is warmly embraced by Koch, who dares to define a Port supporter while he resides in an Upper North Shore suburb of Sydney, for most of his life !!!.
For ten years, Port have been stitched up by a handful of people. At least 3 sit on the board, with one being an employer of Mcquire media and the other a Eagles supporter and the other being one of the most unsuccessful senior coach in AFL history, but who does no wrong by not only the club board but the entire football media. If something doesn't seem right, it's because it's not. While Koch is in charge of the club and Hinkley in charge of the players, Port is not going anywhere. They are not meant to. Don't you get it.
Koch was put in the chairman position by the AFL for a reason, and that reason is not for Por to be too successful. Eddie Mcquire (Collingwood) also has their own person as a board member, who is warmly embraced by Koch, who dares to define a Port supporter while he resides in an Upper North Shore suburb of Sydney, for most of his life !!!.
For ten years, Port have been stitched up by a handful of people. At least 3 sit on the board, with one being an employer of Mcquire media and the other a Eagles supporter and the other being one of the most unsuccessful senior coach in AFL history, but who does no wrong by not only the club board but the entire football media. If something doesn't seem right, it's because it's not. While Koch is in charge of the club and Hinkley in charge of the players, Port is not going anywhere. They are not meant to. Don't you get it.
No interest in Jay Schulz offering to help the forwards is another example.
TRTT Part 15: LeArN aBoUt ThE cLuB!?!
David Koch said tonight that all of our Board members are long time Port supporters. Ummm, no David.
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Even if that was true, and it isnt, how does that excuse anything they've done.
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Lol the facebook crowd will beleive it all
It doesn't. That was part of his answer to my question "when do we members get our club back?"
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It's pretty simple isn't it, being respected is far more important than being liked in a leadership position. Tredders is a hard ass, no doubt about it. I'm sure plenty of people think he's a bit of a jerk. But it comes from a place of being driven to succeed and being passionate about the club. You can't fake that type of thing.
Koch in his best condescending mansplaining voice:
"Back in your day Tredders, all you focused on was winning premierships with nary a thought about match day activations, building hostels for troubled youth, coaching stability, disrupting patriarchal power structures, or busting out of the 5013 post code. Come, let me tell you how times have changed."
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warren has to understand that you simply cant win premierships anymore, once he understands that he will be considered for the board.
Ridiculous some of these comments about the war machine, who gives a stuff about his personal beliefs when it comes to his health,this club is so insecure about someone coming in and saying enough is enough.
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I think we picked the wrong West Coast supporter to have on board. Straight swap for West Coast #1 ticketholder Sam Kerr, who at least has a Port Adelaide bloodline, or do we need to throw in a sweetener to even up the trade? 
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Some of the pearl clutching and hyperbole on here is embarrassing. Should we only draft Port supporters and purge everyone that's not been a Port supporter their entire life.
Can get a bit Norf-like insular at times, which is a recipe for actually becoming that little club only from Alberton. But the crankiness has a basis to it in the lack of any of the most important thing: on field success. Elsewhere Hinkley would be long gone, we had a chance at a natural point, Koch screwed it up. That anger is justified... but the targets for anger are sometimes picked too randomly. By all means sack Hinkley as soon as the AFL nods to Koch that we can afford to. Ironically Koch is working well towards us being able to make such choices instead of begging for it but he needs to go too because for all his good long term work he most made the awful call to extend Hinkley, so we cannot have him with any say in coach.next, and given the ego, the refusal to admit mistakes, he's unlikely to recuse himself from meddling in the process. The other usual suspects for derision, can we really connect them from where we sit directly to the good (mostly the off field stuff) or the bad (mostly the on field disappointments) over the last 10 years?
On Tredders, what does his individual footy nous actually get done on our board? Is there a specialist role defined? No coaching history (bar fabled 1:1 kicking sessions with Ted) and no business experience post playing are reddish flags for maybe not working well with in group situations where you're not the star or not in full charge of priorities. Sticking with what you think is right is a strength - but a weakness when, for example, you're told to STFU and jab up because someone does know your non-expert-subject better than you. Bit like Koch and coaches. You put Fiacchi up for this role against Tredders and I'm 100% with George at this point in time. Nothing to do with how poorly Koch communicated his... conflicted thoughts on it. Total red herring IMO.
A real "disruptor" is actually building up something while they tear something else down, otherwise it's just... disruption
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Naaaah. He didn't fit in that much with a few teammates who were about 'the bloody joke, the social life, for the prestige' (Fos). Whereas Tredders was a workaholic and a train-a-holic, and strict on himself on extracurricular life. But that attitude made him a force of nature, a Coaches Award winner.
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Excellent summary and my thoughts exactlyCan get a bit Norf-like insular at times, which is a recipe for actually becoming that little club only from Alberton. But the crankiness has a basis to it in the lack of any of the most important thing: on field success. Elsewhere Hinkley would be long gone, we had a chance at a natural point, Koch screwed it up. That anger is justified... but the targets for anger are sometimes picked too randomly. By all means sack Hinkley as soon as the AFL nods to Koch that we can afford to. Ironically Koch is working well towards us being able to make such choices instead of begging for it but he needs to go too because for all his good long term work he most made the awful call to extend Hinkley, so we cannot have him with any say in coach.next, and given the ego, the refusal to admit mistakes, he's unlikely to recuse himself from meddling in the process. The other usual suspects for derision, can we really connect them from where we sit directly to the good (mostly the off field stuff) or the bad (mostly the on field disappointments) over the last 10 years?
On Tredders, what does his individual footy nous actually get done on our board? Is there a specialist role defined? No coaching history (bar fabled 1:1 kicking sessions with Ted) and no business experience post playing are reddish flags for maybe not working well with in group situations where you're not the star or not in full charge of priorities. Sticking with what you think is right is a strength - but a weakness when, for example, you're told to STFU and jab up because someone does know your non-expert-subject better than you. Bit like Koch and coaches. You put Fiacchi up for this role against Tredders and I'm 100% with George at this point in time. Nothing to do with how poorly Koch communicated his... conflicted thoughts on it. Total red herring IMO.
A real "disruptor" is actually building up something while they tear something else down, otherwise it's just... disruption
As much as I'd likely share a joint view with Tredrea on outcome, that doesn't mean he's the right person to administer the club through to that outcome.
A board role is very different to anything Tredrea has done, people quoting his playing days experience and/or football commentary nous are missing the point.
Wrong tool for the wrong job. If you try to use a hammer to remove a splinter from your big toe you're more likely to just end up breaking it.
Some on here would suggest that is what we need, but I think the consequences of poor governance at a board level are far more grave than not winning flags.
Fiacchi would be a much better option
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Can get a bit Norf-like insular at times, which is a recipe for actually becoming that little club only from Alberton. But the crankiness has a basis to it in the lack of any of the most important thing: on field success. Elsewhere Hinkley would be long gone, we had a chance at a natural point, Koch screwed it up. That anger is justified... but the targets for anger are sometimes picked too randomly. By all means sack Hinkley as soon as the AFL nods to Koch that we can afford to. Ironically Koch is working well towards us being able to make such choices instead of begging for it but he needs to go too because for all his good long term work he most made the awful call to extend Hinkley, so we cannot have him with any say in coach.next, and given the ego, the refusal to admit mistakes, he's unlikely to recuse himself from meddling in the process. The other usual suspects for derision, can we really connect them from where we sit directly to the good (mostly the off field stuff) or the bad (mostly the on field disappointments) over the last 10 years?
On Tredders, what does his individual footy nous actually get done on our board? Is there a specialist role defined? No coaching history (bar fabled 1:1 kicking sessions with Ted) and no business experience post playing are reddish flags for maybe not working well with in group situations where you're not the star or not in full charge of priorities. Sticking with what you think is right is a strength - but a weakness when, for example, you're told to STFU and jab up because someone does know your non-expert-subject better than you. Bit like Koch and coaches. You put Fiacchi up for this role against Tredders and I'm 100% with George at this point in time. Nothing to do with how poorly Koch communicated his... conflicted thoughts on it. Total red herring IMO.
A real "disruptor" is actually building up something while they tear something else down, otherwise it's just... disruption
I agree with pretty much everything that is said here. You need the high performance, but you definitely need the business side of things. There is being a disruptor and then there is getting into unedifying clashes that hurt the business. We can't afford to look unprofessional like Adelaide/ Essendon. As I see it Tredrea probably doesn't even cover off the high performance with his post career being so limited (the game has moved on in 15 years) and his personality and more recent political beliefs could hurt us as far as commercial reputation is concerned. People can poo poo the running the club as a business but the financially successful clubs have been successful on field as well. At the moment people are carrying on like they would cut off their own dick as long as they got to throw it at Hinkley/ Koch. I don't see Hinkley doing enough to get extended. With him gone, Koch will likely follow in the next 18 months or so. I'd rather the new foundational not be built on angst. If we can't find someone better than Tredrea out of past 'successful' players, what does that say about us as a club?
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"We exist to win premierships"
Wow ok, that's a strong goal. You haven't really got close for the past decade, what are you doing to achieve that?
Wow ok, that's a strong goal. You haven't really got close for the past decade, what are you doing to achieve that?
As I posted before, this doesn’t make sense. It does not pass scrutiny.
“Couldn’t elect him over another past great”
What past great? Who couldn’t you select him over? What other past great has their hand up?
David is speaking gobbledygook here. It’s political speak where it sounds like he’s making a choice based on a reason but the reason is clearly a facade.
Then the asking him to be involved with the club before joining the board.
On face value that immediately sounds right…. But again under any kind of scrutiny it doesn’t hold up.
If that is the pre-requisite for a board position we then must take it that the board position will be filled by someone meeting this requirement. But I don’t believe it is a true prerequisite. If the next board appointment doesn’t meet this prerequisite what does that mean? Koch lied to us? Koch asked something of tredrea that he doesn’t expect of any other board candidates?
Also, have all our previous board appointments had to be involved in the club at a level before joining the board? I’m going to say I don’t think so.
I’m also annoyed that I, a normal pundit can identify and articulate these alarming issues with Koch’s claims but the media has not and will not.
Allowing the media to be so unregulated in a capitalist system has far too often allowed people in power to escape scrutiny, whether that be sports politics or business. We’re much less than what we can be because the info we get is sensationalised bullshit and ads.
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