List Mgmt. List Management 2022

[SurreyBlue]

Silly season ..... The very reason why we needed to play finals - delay the flowering requests.

 

[RAPPA]

Carlton - the place where the perennially injured come for contracts.

 

[cookie monster]

From what I saw of the VFL match, they are experimenting with Kemp up forward. Looked pretty good in the third tall role.

Also, be a bit shitty to Fisher JSOS wouldn’t it?

Was easily his best game. Had presence.

 

[BigFrizz36]

Willie Rioli apparently contemplating a move to Victoria would be of great interest to me. If we were able to lure him across along with Breust, we’d have completely transformed our forward line.


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Not sure about Willie. Averages 12 touches and 1.1 goals per game (even less this year) and has had a 2 year spell for a drug infringement.

At 28 at the start of next year I can't see him doing any transforming. In fact I couldn't see him keeping Motlop or Durdin out of the team. Maybe others see something in him that I can't.

 

[Arr0w]

Rioli would be starting 22 in our side next year

 

[ctwenty1]

I’d like a finals-hardened, leadershiping, a-grade campaigner to be brought in to take us and our standards to the next level.

When you speak of a “campaigner”, do you mean a “campaigner” or a “campaigner”.

 

[Magical_EddieBetts]

Not sure about Willie. Averages 12 touches and 1.1 goals per game (even less this year) and has had a 2 year spell for a drug infringement.

At 28 at the start of next year I can't see him doing any transforming. In fact I couldn't see him keeping Motlop or Durdin out of the team. Maybe others see something in him that I can't.

Durdin’s start of the year was promising but after he got that rising star nomination, he was very very average

 

[Benaly28]

Durdin’s start of the year was promising but after he got that rising star nomination, he was very very average

Only 20 years old probably ran out of juice like many others.


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[BigFrizz36]

Durdin’s start of the year was promising but after he got that rising star nomination, he was very very average

But he is 20 years old and looks the type who will really strive to improve himself. Fair to expect that he will improve.

 

[Magical_EddieBetts]

But he is 20 years old and looks the type who will really strive to improve himself. Fair to expect that he will improve.

Definitely, I’m a big fan of Durds I’m just saying his still got a lot of work to do to improve his game

 

[BigFrizz36]

Definitely, I’m a big fan of Durds I’m just saying his still got a lot of work to do to improve his game

Fully agree but the context was that I would prefer to perservere with him in the expectation that he will improve significantly instead of using draft capital and salary cap on Willie Rioli.

 

[BringFevBack2021]

Definitely, I’m a big fan of Durds I’m just saying his still got a lot of work to do to improve his game

If he can neutralise a marking contest here or there and be a little more urgent with the footy i50 he’ll be a very good player.

Already a good young player but he defo has scope to improve.

 

[Stamos]

In what universe is he better than young?

That's some serious revisionism.

In the universe where after a full pre-season Voss picked him to play ahead of Young?

And we had 100% winning record (and against top 8 teams) in the 2 games (well, 1 and half games) that he played?

 

[true blue19]

I think Pittonet is fine for the next 12-18 months whilst TDK continues his development but if we are to go down the ruck path go and shake one of Flynn or Preuss out of GWS. Goldy at 34, no thanks.

Briggs is out of contract

 

[bmaurizio]

Rioli would be starting 22 in our side next year

Absolutely

 

[Dramoth]

Delist. He's had 7 years. His body isn't up to the rigors of AFL football. Sad, but a fact.

Damn... we should have delisted Charlie Curnow last year then because his body obviously wasn't up to the rigors of AFL football. And Marchbank... and Doch... two ACL's in two years, two bouts of testicular cancer... his body is shot. Should delist him as well hey! Man... Gov's hamstrings go ping when there is a slight breeze pushing him... he needs to go as well.

 

[Dramoth]

Will be more disappointed if we retain him then his back is cooked by round 2 and clogs the list for a 3rd straight year.

Delist him.

Keep Sam Durdin

If his back wasn't cooked, would Melbourne have released him? Good player, but his back is shot. As someone who's back has been shot since 1988, I know what it's like.

 

[windows1]

Sick of the perpetual Kennedy bagging on here.

The difference between Kennedy and Setterfield is that Kennedy ghets his own ball and knows what to do with it and executed like an AFL player - he also wins one on ones.

Night and Day.

I’m not bagging Kennedy at all. I think he’s a very good player. I happen to think though that our balance in the midfield isn’t good when we play too many slow guys who are not great on transition. Cripps, Kennedy and Hewett is one too many for me. And I think Hewett is bette Ethan Kennedy. I actually love Kennedy. I also think he’s a better footballer than Setterfield. BUT I think Setters may be better for balancing up our mids if he can play like he did the last 2 games.

 

[Dramoth]

Was easily his best game. Had presence.

3 goals good I think it was. Led well to the ball and marked well under pressure a couple of times. Should have had 4 really but fluffed one shot. I'd give Kemp another year of development in the VFL as a third tall forward option rotating into the midfield next year. Put him on some chicken breasts for the offseason and let him loose in the gym. 8-10kg should see him fine.

 

[La Dispute]

Willie’s 2018 and 2019 were fantastic.

It’s a shame he had lengthy stint out, he was tracking to be that perfect link up half forward in the Michael Walters

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Michael Walters

Age

33

Ht

176cm

Wt

77kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.2

4star

K

11.0

4star

HB

6.2

4star

M

3.9

4star

T

2.9

4star

G

1.7

5star

D

20.9

5star

K

11.8

5star

HB

9.1

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

3.3

4star

G

1.0

4star

D

13.0

4star

K

9.4

4star

HB

3.6

3star

M

4.4

4star

T

1.8

4star

G

0.8

4star

mould. Surprisingly beautiful footskills.

Maybe the best thing for him is to head to a Vic based club? He has a hell of a lot of family in Melbourne.

 

[Dramoth]

Rioli would be starting 22 in our side next year

And would be a damned good mentor to both Durdin and Motlop. Martin should be taking Honey under his wing and teaching him the HFF trade.

 

[windows1]

Maybe we have to move Gov back to the fwd line as our 3rd tall who can lead up to the wing as that outlet kick from the backline.

If Marchy can stay fit and play that 3rd/intercept tall or we play Kemp back there then it frees up Gov. I think the 3rd tall fwd is a big hole in our side as Voss seems reluctant to have either of H or Charlie to far up the ground or the traditional CHF.

I think you’re right Frumpy. I don’t think McGovern is a great spoiler unfortunately. Not a true third tall. Great intercept marker but I don’t really trust him in the backline. The massive advantage he gave our backline was kicking. Especially kicking in. He could rejoin the forwsrd group for sure.

But I’d say they will stick with him back.

 

[DangerousD]

He has basically spend the entire season playing a 2nd ruck role, which he is undersized for, he is a third forward who can contribute 30-35 goals a season in that role.

How many players go from having a best goal kicking year of 19 goals after 7 seasons and become 35 goal a year players?

Jack had quite a good season, if he plays a full season as the second ruck, a slight improvement on his disposals and goal kicking from this year would put him in a great spot. If he’s not taking second ruck, I feel he will be passed by a few players.

 

[FRUMPY]

I think you’re right Frumpy. I don’t think McGovern is a great spoiler unfortunately. Not a true third tall. Great intercept marker but I don’t really trust him in the backline. The massive advantage he gave our backline was kicking. Especially kicking in. He could rejoin the forwsrd group for sure.

But I’d say they will stick with him back.

Agree, I don't see them going back on their decision to move him back after just one season

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[windows1]

What would Ollie Henry cost if he is going to be pushed out of the Pies? He would be a good fit in our forward mix I reckon.

Isn’t getting a game because he doesn’t chase.

Do not want.