Lets face it he'll be in a one on one battle with Bin Treakle for the position so why wouldn't you go.Jack Hayes heading to Norf?
He’s been plagued by injury but would he be worth a punt? I’ve always like the way he attacks the footy.
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Lets face it he'll be in a one on one battle with Bin Treakle for the position so why wouldn't you go.Jack Hayes heading to Norf?
He’s been plagued by injury but would he be worth a punt? I’ve always like the way he attacks the footy.
Freo are overpaying but I guess Bolton is in contract so that's the way it goes.Houston is a slightly better player than Bolton 10 & 11 and is well above Baker 18. Fortunately no club has the brains or selections to offer what Dan is worth - so he stays! Our best option from day one.
Melbourne offered a first rounder for him a few years back and they said No LOLThey've been keen on him for a couple years.
I thought that was acknowledged when he stated “until last draft”You do realise the two things are not mutually dependent?
I can be happy to have gained JHF and look forward to being in the first round of this draft.
Looking forward to this time next year when we try to trade our way back into the first round of next year's draft.
Always mortgaging our future for the next missing piece of the Donuts puzzle.
I think maybe Berry tooWho were the top 20 draft picks taken by Brisbane in a draft in this years premiership team?
Genuine question as I don’t know the answer, but I can only think of three - McCluggage, Ashcroft and Rayner.
I suspect the majority of the team was recruited through trading as relying on the draft is a fools game.
Being a destination club is more important than dipping into the lottery.
Actually I vagualey recall we overlooked him in a draft around that mid teens mark so probably right.I think maybe Berry too
McLuggageWho were the top 20 draft picks taken by Brisbane in a draft in this years premiership team?
Genuine question as I don’t know the answer, but I can only think of three - McCluggage, Ashcroft and Rayner.
I suspect the majority of the team was recruited through trading as relying on the draft is a fools game.
Being a destination club is more important than dipping into the lottery.
Dunno about that one.I’d still suggest giving up pick 16 in this draft is not that big a deal when we used it to land Esava and Soldo (expect to be wrong about that, happy to be corrected) both of whom at the time were expected to fill huge voids in the list.
They were depth players at their previous clubs. You don't spend first picks to recruit depth players. Even if we thought they could be more, we should have paid what they were worth at the time.I thought that was acknowledged when he stated “until last draft”
I’d still suggest giving up pick 16 in this draft is not that big a deal when we used it to land Esava and Soldo (expect to be wrong about that, happy to be corrected) both of whom at the time were expected to fill huge voids in the list.
They were depth players at their previous clubs. You don't spend first picks to recruit depth players. Even if we thought they could be more, we should have paid what they were worth at the time.
Now Esava has been seemingly exiled from the position we recruited him to play and Soldo is demanding to be traded.
Dunno about that one.
If you give up a 1st rounder, you should be getting something considerable back not a couple of career backups.
We will see this year what is around that mark. I think we might have sellers remorse when we see what is available.
Huh? We got Rioli cheap he came with JHF.What alternative did the club have when there was also an obvious need to land Rioli?
Well, we’re not using either Soldo or Esava, so yes, that would have been better.Sit on the F1 and rely on Sweet as the replacement for both Lycett and Jonas, and now Dixon?
It’s not even hindsight so many here knew how bad these trades were as they were made.This is always a hindsight game as we won’t know for several years what it was we gave up.
Huh? We got Rioli cheap he came with JHF.
Well, we’re not using either Soldo or Esava, so yes, that would have been better.
Matt Flynn was a free agent; we could have gotten both him and Sweet. They both would have liked a shot at being the number 1 ruck, as that’s why they both left. I remember I said last year I hated how we didn’t use free agency enough to fill those holes when there were a few free agents in the positions we needed.
It’s not even hindsight so many here knew how bad these trades were as they were made.
Probably Ollie Lord. If Todd and Finlayson were all fit, does Esava play? Maybe over Finlayson, but I doubt he’s in before Todd. I wouldn’t brag about the season part either. We all know Kenny has favourites he loves playing like McEnte.If I’m not mistaken Esava played all finals games and most of the season. Who plays if he doesn’t? Scully? McEntee?
I believe you are also incorrect about Rioli. We paid up for him, it looked overs at the time but his output has justified the exchange. He has been superb.
Edit: Did Flynn go to West Coast? I don’t think he played more than a handful of games, the definition of a list clogger considering the Eagles first choice ruck is very ordinary.
Probably Ollie Lord. If Todd and Finlayson were all fit, does Esava play? Maybe over Finlayson, but I doubt he’s in before Todd. I wouldn’t brag about the season part either. We all know Kenny has favourites he loves playing like McEnte.
I mean, maybe if that’s how you view the JHF trade, but I thought we did really well to get both JHF and Rioli for what we did, and we still ended up with a 2nd that year too.
Ngl, Flynn didn't do well this year. A big part of it was from that big injury he got in a preseason match; he missed a huge chunk of the year. But at the Giants, he was really good, and if he came here, things would have been different because he likely wouldn’t have been injured in a preseason game.
I and most people don't analyse pick 16 at that particular pick but what is possible and what is left in the draft pool at 16 and beyond. It's having possible access to a whole heap of players this year like Hotton, Lindsay, Shanahan, Trainor, Travaglia, Berry, etc. Some serious talent there.It’s quite possible. As I have posted many times, the best of pick 16 since 1990 is Gehrig 93 S Thompson and Birdman. Others include T Marshall, Pittard and Ben Jacobs. Nothing much elite has materialised. A poker player who knows what they are doing would have played the same hand Port did, it sits comfortably with me which is a rarity for this joke club.
I and most people don't analyse pick 16 at that particular pick but what is possible and what is left in the draft pool at 16 and beyond. It's having possible access to a whole heap of players this year like Hotton, Lindsay, Shanahan, Trainor, Travaglia, Berry, etc. Some serious talent there.
It would've also helped with negotiations with Houston, Soldo, Lukosius, etc.
The draft has a level of speculation and you never know what you get and what translates but with the value of pick 16 or a pick in that area has a good chance of being Zak Butters, Mitch Georgiades or Miles Bergman but it can also dud out.I acknowledge what you are saying but “serious talent” is also drafted at pick 1 and often does not materialize into anything of the calibre of player expected.
Yes. That's exactly what we should have done. You just answered your own question.What alternative did the club have? Sit on the F1 and rely on Sweet as the replacement for both Lycett and Jonas, and now Dixon?
I need to stop posting.
Yes. That's exactly what we should have done. You just answered your own question.
Sweet has been miles better than Soldo. Zerk-Thatcher has been miles better than Ratugolea. We didn't need to give up a first rounder to get either of them. And you can't claim 'hindsight' on this one because I and most of this board were saying giving up that first round pick was an awful move last year too.
I can absolutely guarantee you that if we didn't bother with Soldo, even if Sweet broke his leg on the first day of preseason, my response to that news wouldn't have been 'man I wish we used our first round pick on Richmond's depth ruckman'.Hindsight. We have no depth in KPD, nor in ruck. The club did the right thing. If the trade hadn’t been done and Sweet was SANFL standard you’d be crying foul when the kid Visi got belted from pillar to post,
And again, if Aliir or BZT got injured, I'd much rather play Tom Clurey and have our first round pick this year than play Esava and not have it.likewise if Aliir and/or ZT got injured, was Tom Clurey the answer?
Lol. Okay Kochie. Great success this season was, contract extensions all round.We finished second; the decision is vindicated.