List Mgmt. List Management 2024-25

[Acemanjam]

In other news - Carlton have secured pick 3 from WCE

Was it just a straight 12 & 14 for 3?

 

[Anyonebutken]

In other news - Carlton have secured pick 3 from WCE

C4 I'm hearing carlton are keen on sid draper and might take him if that's the case ahead of the crows any truth in that?

 

[C4[2]Yo`DooR]

Was it just a straight 12 & 14 for 3?

Third party involved for more picks/swaps

 

[C4[2]Yo`DooR]

C4 I'm hearing carlton are keen on sid draper and might take him if that's the case ahead of the crows any truth in that?

here’s hoping!

 

[ronpingwins]

Third party involved for more picks/swaps

Anything specific on what West Coast are getting? How far we’re sliding back? Diabolical on the surface

 

[C4[2]Yo`DooR]

Anything specific on what West Coast are getting? How far we’re sliding back? Diabolical on the surface

There’s a third party involved. So not sure of all final details sorry.

 

[Waspy79]

Pretty cool how I managed to draw on the benefit of hindsight by hating the deal before the last 12 months even happened isn't it?

Here's what's happened here. Port traded a first round pick for two average depth players. The majority immediately hated it. You said to give it time. We did, and it turned out even worse than we thought it would when we hated it 12 months ago. You're now claiming that the deal only looks bad 'with the benefit of hindsight', because apparently you don't know what the word hindsight means.

How will the pick we traded away turn out as a player? I believe this is now pick 18 in the hands of Fremantle.

Please elaborate Oracle so as we can revisit this in a decade with the benefit of the hindsight this trade deserves.

Draft picks 11-20 have a 52% chance of playing more than 80 games. A coin toss on a battler.

There’s a 20% chance a player drafted pick 11-20 plays less than 20 career games, and we are talking pick 18 here, not pick 11.

 

[rainwizard39]

How will the pick we traded away turn out as a player? I believe this is now pick 18 in the hands of Fremantle.

Please elaborate Oracle so as we can revisit this in a decade with the benefit of the hindsight this trade deserves.

Draft picks 11-20 have a 52% chance of playing more than 80 games. A coin toss on a battler.

There’s a 20% chance a player drafted pick 11-20 plays less than 20 career games, and we are talking pick 18 here, not pick 11.

Why are you such a defender of that trade? It’s so bad, and it’s not defendable. Go read last year’s trade thread—we all hated it even then. It’s not about the benefit of hindsight.

It’s as simple as this: we caved and overpaid for an OOC Esava, and then overpaid for Soldo when there were other options. I mean, the Swans got Grundy for cheaper than what we paid for Soldo. Rucks are usually so cheap, like Sweet, yet we got bent over for no reason.

Esava doesn’t even play in the position we brought him in for anymore, and Soldo can’t even crack the first team—it’s only been a year.

Pick 18 is still good. It’s been said it’s a deep draft, so why downplay 18 when so many clubs are trying to load up around that position? I mean it’s only 5 picks down from the main piece of what we’re about to trade one of our top 5 players for.

I just don’t get why you downplay how bad it is and act as if everyone is being unreasonable and keep bringing up hindsight.

 

[longdonkey]

How will the pick we traded away turn out as a player? I believe this is now pick 18 in the hands of Fremantle.

Please elaborate Oracle so as we can revisit this in a decade with the benefit of the hindsight this trade deserves.

Draft picks 11-20 have a 52% chance of playing more than 80 games. A coin toss on a battler.

There’s a 20% chance a player drafted pick 11-20 plays less than 20 career games, and we are talking pick 18 here, not pick 11.

As much as anything, by the time we know if the player that the pick got was successful or not Ratagolea will be retired. For that reason alone the trade is dodgy.

 

[C4[2]Yo`DooR]

In other news - Carlton have secured pick 3 from WCE

 

[Willsy10]

Can we focus more on the 2024-25 list management. Last years future first rounder that Is (pick 18?) is gone, it’s like crying over spilt milk now. And honestly i don’t think pick 18 is worth all this commotion. Let it go and focus on future deals.


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[MALTSY]

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Well that’s very interesting isn’t it? Carlton well positioned now. Let’s see what eventuates tomoz.

 

[avs]

After trading in three players and traded out one player we will have moved on a net of zero players from the list. The numbers are looking strange. Can we delist the rat after trading for him?

If Allir Allir got injured . Have we got back up to replace him ?

 

[Revan11]

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14 for Baker is putrid.

 

[crafty_bernardo]

saw your comment earlier so went to see the wce board and how they would react. took a while but 'ah yep now it's there..

 

[EskimoPAFC]

How will the pick we traded away turn out as a player? I believe this is now pick 18 in the hands of Fremantle.

Please elaborate Oracle so as we can revisit this in a decade with the benefit of the hindsight this trade deserves.

Draft picks 11-20 have a 52% chance of playing more than 80 games. A coin toss on a battler.

There’s a 20% chance a player drafted pick 11-20 plays less than 20 career games, and we are talking pick 18 here, not pick 11.

I feel you're missing the point.

Its not about waiting 5 years and seeing what the exact pick we gave up ends up like as a player.

The point is that Geelong had no reason or leverage to make such a ridiculous demand. We caved when we held all the cards.

 

[Waspy79]

If Allir Allir got injured . Have we got back up to replace him ?

Isn’t Aliir in his thirties too? Might not be long until Esava is holding down CHB for the

 

[1954]

Isn’t Aliir in his thirties too? Might not be long until Esava is holding down CHB for the

I'm not too sure `holding down CHB' is correct for Esava, maybe being somewhere in the approximate vicinity would be more appropriate.

 

[Alyx]

maybe being somewhere in the approximate vicinity would be more appropriate.

...wrestling his opponent off the ball, then going to ground, as he watches them stroll through to goal.

 

[Rigs]

Isn’t Aliir in his thirties too? Might not be long until Esava is holding down CHB for the

He just turned 30

 

[VineValerian]

I feel you're missing the point.

Its not about waiting 5 years and seeing what the exact pick we gave up ends up like as a player.

The point is that Geelong had no reason or leverage to make such a ridiculous demand. We caved when we held all the cards.

And we look like potentially caving in again if we're not careful, despite holding all the cards - and shuffling the deck to our advantage as well.

 

[simba_]

Might not be long until Esava is holding down CHB for the

i hope i'm not around for that

 

[It Just Is]

West Coast are worse at this than we are.

 

[drcollossimo]

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That’s the hard bit now Draft Draper and we can all enjoy the salty salty goodness

 

[Holden Hillbilly]

Three-team trade between Carlton, West Coast and Richmond.

• Carlton gets picks 3, 63, 68
• Richmond gets pick 14
• West Coast gets Liam Baker, Matthew Owies, picks 12, 73