List Mgmt. List Management 2024-25

[PJ Power]

Well there you go.

So out:
Dixon, McKenzie, McCallum, Scully, Marshall, Houston, Evans, Narkle, Clurey

In:
Atkins, Lukosius, Richards

Does that mean we can draft 4 plus Barrett and Burgoyne, or just 3?

 

[Holden Hillbilly]

Out:
Charlie Dixon (ret)
Dan Houston (trd)
Tom McCallum (del)
Trent McKenzie (ret)
Clurey
Narkle
Francis Evans
Tom Scully

21

Tom Scully

Age

33

Ht

181cm

Wt

80kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

20.7

5star

K

9.9

4star

HB

10.8

5star

M

3.8

4star

T

3.5

5star

CL

2.3

4star

D

12.6

3star

K

7.5

3star

HB

5.1

3star

M

2.4

3star

T

1.1

2star

CL

0.8

3star

D

19.8

5star

K

8.8

4star

HB

11.0

5star

M

3.0

3star

T

4.6

5star

CL

3.8

5star

Kyle Marshall

In: Lukosius, Richards, Atkins

Net 6 players delisted

 

[rainwizard39]

Out:
Charlie Dixon (ret)
Dan Houston (trd)
Tom McCallum (del)
Trent McKenzie (ret)
Clurey
Narkle

In: Lukosius, Richards, Atkins

Net 3 players.

And Logan Evans not sure if he’s added to rookie or main list.

 

[rumoursofwinter]

Well there you go.

So out:
Dixon, McKenzie, McCallum, Scully, Marshall, Houston, Evans, Narkle, Clurey

In:
Atkins, Lukosius, Richards

Does that mean we can draft 4 plus Barrett and Burgoyne, or just 3?

Depends on if barrett makes it to the rookie draft. If he is category b then we can draft 4 plus Burgoyne.

 

[JakeNeadeFan]

With Clurey going I would think we would need to target experienced depth to play as a KPD. Which is annoying from the view that I would've much rather taken a youngster in the draft.

Like realistically the next man up is Xavier Walsh.

I guess with Aliir, BZT, Esava and Bergman there is flexibility to play three of those guys but still seems precarious.

 

[chiwigi]

So we lost Evans/Narkle for Atkins.

Ok then

 

[Bump Bailey]

Basically had to keep Jed on the list because axing him would have been an admission by the club that they were wrong (a lot).

 

[Bump Bailey]

So we lost Evans/Narkle for Atkins.

Ok then

Something about deck chairs and the titanic.

 

[JayPea14]

Would we target Adam Tomlinson

20

Adam Tomlinson

Age

31

Ht

194cm

Wt

95kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.5

4star

K

9.8

4star

HB

5.8

4star

M

4.8

5star

T

2.3

4star

D

15.5

4star

K

9.8

4star

HB

5.8

3star

M

4.8

4star

T

2.3

3star

D

15.5

4star

K

9.8

4star

HB

5.8

4star

M

4.8

5star

T

2.3

4star

as backup?

 

[Holden Hillbilly]

Would we target Adam Tomlinson as backup?

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[Enviable Tradition]

With Clurey going I would think we would need to target experienced depth to play as a KPD. Which is annoying from the view that I would've much rather taken a youngster in the draft.

Like realistically the next man up is Xavier Walsh.

I guess with Aliir, BZT, Esava and Bergman there is flexibility to play three of those guys but still seems precarious.

Ratagolea and Walsh is decent depth.

Add a rookie under them rather than a mature ager I think.

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[Abraham Nuscrack]

Out:
Charlie Dixon (ret)
Dan Houston (trd)
Tom McCallum (del)
Trent McKenzie (ret)
Clurey
Narkle
Francis Evans
Tom Scully
Kyle Marshall

In: Lukosius, Richards, Atkins

Net 6 players delisted

Think L Evans needs to be upgraded? That leaves 5, dare say we will leave a spot free for mid-season draft? So looking at drafting 4 in then?

 

[Peninsula Boy]

Jed still has a year to run on his contract so he gets another year to prove himself.

With Richards on the list, he's officially backup or possibly backup to backup.

 

[Duckimus Prime]

Ratagolea and Walsh is decent depth.

Add a rookie under them rather than a mature ager I think.

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Only if Rataoglea is playing SANFL. If he's still playing in the forward line at AFL level, then he isn't depth for the backline. And we end up robbing our forward line to cover a defensive injury.

And the backline at SANFL level will be inexperienced kids that are late picks in the draft that wouldn't even be playing Seniors if they were at an SANFL side. And we'll blame the SANFL for why our development path is so shit...

 

[Peninsula Boy]

Could they move Finny down back?

 

[Chrizzt]

Can’t bloody wait to see which 2m tall project players we draft in the 40s-50s that we can permanent marker in for delisting in 2026

 

[El_Scorcho]

Clurey playing at a clearly higher level as a KPD than Esava is debatable, Clurey played some good shut down roles but was never a star i think the last time he had a really good game for us was in the showdown in 2021 when he took Tex to the cleaners.

Esava struggled to fit in to our defensive mix this year but as a a complete newbie in defence he scored 24 coaches votes in 2023, including a perfect 10 against the crows. So he is capable of playing at a high level, and i reckon he has a higher ceiling than what Clurey ever had.

Clurey is a much smarter player and worked better with his teammates. Esava is a great size and a great athlete, but he doesn't quite have the skills or nous. I think he'll probably start the season in the SANFL.

Dougal Howard was an overrated footballer from Port fans, the reality was he was just never that good. I know a few saints supporters (they seem to be everywhere for some reason) not one of them has ever said anything nice about Dougal Howard. Most of them have him in the spud delist category.

Is he a clearly worse player than Esava, even now? I'm not sure that he is. I'd say it's pretty lineball.

And we are going back to ancient history with Trengove, he was a good player and i really liked him, seemed like a good club man and the decision not to play him in the 2017 EF was a poor one. But his career just tapered off a little earlier than most and was in the game had past him by stage before he even hit 30. It happens, there was nothing about what he did at the dogs that suggested we made a monumental **** up not holding on to him.

Trengove was the victim of some really poor list management and Matthew Lobbe's ability vanishing.

We knew Ryder was going to get banned or at least we knew it was a big chance, and we didn't cover him. We then used Trengove in the ruck in 2016, remodeling the defence without him and deciding that he didn't fit our style anymore. We then play him as a forward in 2017 (where we were short due to another list management stuffup) which he's not suited to and we end up giving him away to the Bulldogs, where his heart isn't in it and his career peters out. I don't think it would have petered out as it did if we simply left him as a KPD the whole time.

 

[SureBuddy]

I hope that means we are going after DGB.

 

[JimmyBC]

PowerBaz put ya tanks out

 

[Doctor Feel]

We are gonna sift through the bins again arent we

 

[Peninsula Boy]

We are gonna sift through the bins again arent we

I bloody hope not. Ratkins is bad enough.

 

[Peninsula Boy]

Having just updated the spreadsheet, we look to have need at:

1. KPF
2. KPD
3. Big bodied midfielder
4. Small forward
5. Medium forward

 

[PJ Power]

I’d still get rid of McEntee and/or Charleson to allow us to bring higher quality players through our first four draft picks, then Barrett and Burgoyne. Also leaves a spot for a DFA (eg DGB).

 

[Relativity]

Esava struggled to fit in to our defensive mix this year but as a a complete newbie in defence he scored 24 coaches votes in 2023, including a perfect 10 against the crows. So he is capable of playing at a high level, and i reckon he has a higher ceiling than what Clurey ever had.

A lot of those coaches votes was Scott pumping up Esava's perceived value knowing he was going to Port. He even gave 5 votes for their game against us.... the only coaches votes he got.

The only value you can judge him by is his output for us and I'm not seeing it. We traded in a big body that lacks football smarts and I'm not convinced he's going to get smarter.

 

[It Just Is]

Having just updated the spreadsheet, we look to have need at:

1. KPF
2. KPD
3. Big bodied midfielder
4. Small forward
5. Medium forward

The biggest hole in our list currently is a 3rd tall forward who can chop out in the ruck. I’ve seen nothing to suggest Lord can do that and enough to know Finlayson can’t.

Ratugolea and Soldo can do the 20% ruck part but not sure either can hold down a spot in the forward line.